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Blue's.. Uk Clone (Constructive & Structured comments please)
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The stuff people put out now as Blues or cheese is a disgrace(in my area anyway)..... we started getting/seeing good cheese etc around 89/90 to my knowledge it came via crewe or nantwich it/they were tightly held, someone told me blues was a pearl type or cheese cut outcrossed for yield but I'd have to contact some very old friends to verify that....
I miss those days too...
Bingo, Crewe/Nantwich, that's where the first top notch stuff came from in the NW!
There was a guy who worked for Rolls-Royce, he was some kind of engineer and what he didn't know about hydroponics and growing, wasn't worth knowing.
He taught several of the guys who went on to teach the current generation of growers. The first two guys I knew who grew were taught by him, I seem to remember he had a callout service where he would come setup a hydro system for ya and I think he provided cuts if needed.
I never met the guy but I saw his business card (from Rolls-Royce) and a few of his hydro setups, they were usually recirc dwc with 8-24 buckets and one or two waterfarms for mothers.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure he left the country a few years ago for sunnier climes. He worked for RR near Crewe. There was another guy from Southport who I did meet once or twice, he was some genius type who had setup one of the early software companies, made a fortune, got divorced and turned to growing ganja, he used to make grow kit for people, I had one of the 400W ballasts he made as a hand-me-down when I first started.
Silver Pearl, not heard that one mentioned for years. I know I used to hear it mentioned all the time and I'm sure I've seen and smoked crops of it, but I've never been shown a cut or plant and told it was Silver Pearl. I remember when Cheese first started getting talked about online a lot in 2004, then some said it was a Silver Pearl and one of the earliest pictures to appear online that purported to show a Cheese plant was of an extremely frosty outdoor plant and that was said to be a Silver Pearl. The pic was posted by Quiejo/HHF when I saw it but he might have just taken it from somewhere else. To this day I'm sure that pic isn't kosher, looks to me like an indoor cola that was put outside in winter so it got a coating of frost on it. You can see frost on the hedge in the background.
There was a guy who worked for Rolls-Royce, he was some kind of engineer and what he didn't know about hydroponics and growing, wasn't worth knowing.
He taught several of the guys who went on to teach the current generation of growers. The first two guys I knew who grew were taught by him, I seem to remember he had a callout service where he would come setup a hydro system for ya and I think he provided cuts if needed.
I never met the guy but I saw his business card (from Rolls-Royce) and a few of his hydro setups, they were usually recirc dwc with 8-24 buckets and one or two waterfarms for mothers.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure he left the country a few years ago for sunnier climes. He worked for RR near Crewe. There was another guy from Southport who I did meet once or twice, he was some genius type who had setup one of the early software companies, made a fortune, got divorced and turned to growing ganja, he used to make grow kit for people, I had one of the 400W ballasts he made as a hand-me-down when I first started.
Silver Pearl, not heard that one mentioned for years. I know I used to hear it mentioned all the time and I'm sure I've seen and smoked crops of it, but I've never been shown a cut or plant and told it was Silver Pearl. I remember when Cheese first started getting talked about online a lot in 2004, then some said it was a Silver Pearl and one of the earliest pictures to appear online that purported to show a Cheese plant was of an extremely frosty outdoor plant and that was said to be a Silver Pearl. The pic was posted by Quiejo/HHF when I saw it but he might have just taken it from somewhere else. To this day I'm sure that pic isn't kosher, looks to me like an indoor cola that was put outside in winter so it got a coating of frost on it. You can see frost on the hedge in the background.
im in my late 20`s and when i started smoking in skunk didnt seem to be around,,,,it was all whitewidow, NLxHaze and ssh,,,, i atualy prefer them oldtime skunks to any "newage hybrids",,,,,,
i bet the reason why Sk1 is SO mutch better is because sam`s selection skills are just tipty top noch,,,,,,wouldnt it be cool if everyone was breeding by sams strict guidelines
i bet the reason why Sk1 is SO mutch better is because sam`s selection skills are just tipty top noch,,,,,,wouldnt it be cool if everyone was breeding by sams strict guidelines
did silverpearl taste like candy???,,,,,,
ive seen it in loads SilverPearl in coffeshops, especialy dutch flowers near 2ekarmer,,,,i cant say i remember it propperly tho,,,,,i will try it next time to se if i can find that candy flava
ive seen it in loads SilverPearl in coffeshops, especialy dutch flowers near 2ekarmer,,,,i cant say i remember it propperly tho,,,,,i will try it next time to se if i can find that candy flava
Christ knows rick, everyone was growing 'skunk' when I started in 94.
late 95 I went to the dam to buy seeds for the first time and I brought back the first Widow seeds that the people in my area had seen. I remember being given money by a guy to bring him Widow and NL seeds from the Sensi Shop cos he had heard this Widow was the new big thing in Holland and the NL was something he had smoked from someone else's garden and hadn't been able to get a cut. I had to grow the bloody seeds out when I got back and give him the females as cutting though, he wouldn't entertain the idea of messing with seeds.
I also remember I spent the money I was going to spend on seeds for myself on weed and beer (I was 21 after all) and ended up growing out the collection of bagseeds I'd collected, I had Nigerian, Indonesian, Ghanaian, Thai, Jamaican, Colombian, just the stuff I'd picked out of bags of import weed I'd bought.
I ended up with the males from the NL and Widow as I sucked at cloning and had to give him the plants rather than cuts, plus a load of uncontrollable bagseed sativas I ended up throwing away, although I did plant the 5 best of them in my back garden and eventually harvested some very leafy but surprisingly strong Nigerian.
Point being, no-one I knew would grow seeds back then (apart from me) so the same handful of cuts were grown, and to be honest, we weren't big on names, it was all 'skunk', then NL buds turned up and were expensive and better then the 'skunk' to some folks (more stony, more resin, chunkier nugs, more like 'frosted pine cones' (and the first NL buds I saw smelled piney) so had more bag appeal. Then Widow appeared and everyone started grown white strains.
late 95 I went to the dam to buy seeds for the first time and I brought back the first Widow seeds that the people in my area had seen. I remember being given money by a guy to bring him Widow and NL seeds from the Sensi Shop cos he had heard this Widow was the new big thing in Holland and the NL was something he had smoked from someone else's garden and hadn't been able to get a cut. I had to grow the bloody seeds out when I got back and give him the females as cutting though, he wouldn't entertain the idea of messing with seeds.
I also remember I spent the money I was going to spend on seeds for myself on weed and beer (I was 21 after all) and ended up growing out the collection of bagseeds I'd collected, I had Nigerian, Indonesian, Ghanaian, Thai, Jamaican, Colombian, just the stuff I'd picked out of bags of import weed I'd bought.
I ended up with the males from the NL and Widow as I sucked at cloning and had to give him the plants rather than cuts, plus a load of uncontrollable bagseed sativas I ended up throwing away, although I did plant the 5 best of them in my back garden and eventually harvested some very leafy but surprisingly strong Nigerian.
Point being, no-one I knew would grow seeds back then (apart from me) so the same handful of cuts were grown, and to be honest, we weren't big on names, it was all 'skunk', then NL buds turned up and were expensive and better then the 'skunk' to some folks (more stony, more resin, chunkier nugs, more like 'frosted pine cones' (and the first NL buds I saw smelled piney) so had more bag appeal. Then Widow appeared and everyone started grown white strains.
id say you was lucky to test that oldschool stuff,,,,,,,,i bloody missed that boat,,,,im collecting the antiques.
just outof intrest:::::::witch 1 of them oldshool cuts had the best terpen profile? in your opinion???
just outof intrest:::::::witch 1 of them oldshool cuts had the best terpen profile? in your opinion???
Depends what you define as 'best terpene profile'.
None of them had a high that I would chose to experience very often, the 'skunks' were all boring, the NLs were generic stony indica as were the widows. People didn't know names of cuts most of the time, they were just 'skunk' and I don't even know whether there were loads of similar skunks floating around or just 2 or 3 as most of it by the time I saw it was chopped and dried and how it tasted varied by who grew it, back then hydro wasn't the easy thing it is now and we used pretty harsh salts cos there weren't loads of nutes on the market and no hydro shops in our area so there probably wasn't the nuances of flavour there for me to remember anyways.
The highest terpene density would be found in the Afghanis you ocassionally saw, which were either Afghani #1 or a flavour of NL, they tended to be either foul smelling or piney, ocassionally you'd get a fruity one. Ak47 impressed a lot of people when it arrived cos it smelled so much but didn't have the harsh, accrid taste of the heavy afghanis, my personal favourite of anything that i knew the name of from the 90s would be the spicy Ak47 cut that I called 'Curry plant' cos it tasted like curry to me. I only grew it a few times because it yielded crap in soil (but tasted fantastic, like a good bhuna) and tasted crap in hydro (but yielded huge), I reckon if I had that cut these days I could get the taste and the yield in coco with it, but I haven't seen or spoken to any of the people I knew back in the 90s in 5 years and I'm keeping it that way, they were a bunch of crooks who would stab you in the back given a chance, most of them drank more than they smoked and were in it for the dosh, which is why it was all 'skunk', they didn't care as long as the plants didn't grow too tall for their room and the weight was there after 8 weeks, 9 if they could be arsed waiting.
I grew a lot of seeds back then, I had access to unlimited numbers of seeds from imported weed, African, Jamaican and Asian, I used to start dozens and toss all that showed weakness or didn't grow well, maybe 1 in 10 would make it to flower. After a couple of years I bit the bullet and bought some proper sativa hybrids, I got Durban Poison and Mexican Sativa from Sensi in 97 and loved em both. Those two are both shit these days tho.
None of them had a high that I would chose to experience very often, the 'skunks' were all boring, the NLs were generic stony indica as were the widows. People didn't know names of cuts most of the time, they were just 'skunk' and I don't even know whether there were loads of similar skunks floating around or just 2 or 3 as most of it by the time I saw it was chopped and dried and how it tasted varied by who grew it, back then hydro wasn't the easy thing it is now and we used pretty harsh salts cos there weren't loads of nutes on the market and no hydro shops in our area so there probably wasn't the nuances of flavour there for me to remember anyways.
The highest terpene density would be found in the Afghanis you ocassionally saw, which were either Afghani #1 or a flavour of NL, they tended to be either foul smelling or piney, ocassionally you'd get a fruity one. Ak47 impressed a lot of people when it arrived cos it smelled so much but didn't have the harsh, accrid taste of the heavy afghanis, my personal favourite of anything that i knew the name of from the 90s would be the spicy Ak47 cut that I called 'Curry plant' cos it tasted like curry to me. I only grew it a few times because it yielded crap in soil (but tasted fantastic, like a good bhuna) and tasted crap in hydro (but yielded huge), I reckon if I had that cut these days I could get the taste and the yield in coco with it, but I haven't seen or spoken to any of the people I knew back in the 90s in 5 years and I'm keeping it that way, they were a bunch of crooks who would stab you in the back given a chance, most of them drank more than they smoked and were in it for the dosh, which is why it was all 'skunk', they didn't care as long as the plants didn't grow too tall for their room and the weight was there after 8 weeks, 9 if they could be arsed waiting.
I grew a lot of seeds back then, I had access to unlimited numbers of seeds from imported weed, African, Jamaican and Asian, I used to start dozens and toss all that showed weakness or didn't grow well, maybe 1 in 10 would make it to flower. After a couple of years I bit the bullet and bought some proper sativa hybrids, I got Durban Poison and Mexican Sativa from Sensi in 97 and loved em both. Those two are both shit these days tho.
hey LLP thanks for weighing in and clearing that up
how big are the pots you use rick? - i found it yielded well in 4 gallon pots of organic soil. went from 1 gallon to 4 gallon at same time as i put it to flower - it had plenty of vigor and stretched well.
V.
my cut is the lowest yealding plant ive ever had in my life bro,,,,,id cry my eyes out if anything yealded less
how big are the pots you use rick? - i found it yielded well in 4 gallon pots of organic soil. went from 1 gallon to 4 gallon at same time as i put it to flower - it had plenty of vigor and stretched well.
V.
NFT bro,,,,unlimited rootspace,,,,,,,,mine is the 1 that only throws out 5 fingers too,,,,yours looks a lil more chuncky than mine
curry weed,,,,,
sounds like MNS Spice
sounds like MNS Spice
Is Spice the one that's Hawaiian Indica x hawaiian Sativa? The old Sensi Hawaiian Indica was awesome, god knows why it isn't sold anymore.
yeh yeh yehh,,Hawain sat x shantis hawain indica,,,,,,,:::i think shani passed that hawian male to Soma too,,im sure its 1 of the main componants in NYCD,,,puka
Hawain sat x shantis hawain indica,,,,,,,:::i think shani passed that hawian male to Soma too,,im sure its 1 of the main componants in NYCD,,,puka
Afghan x Hawaiian was the male, not sure whether the Hawaiian half was the indica or sativa hawaiian, might not even be the same as the ones in Spice.
doc had good experience with spice,,,
ive never realy looked into the hawians,,,im very intrigued tho,,,,hawian/MNS Spice is a good sujestion ,,,,,il defo try an get some growing,
silver pearl is a good sujestion too,,,,,,,,makes me think of the *new* silver bubble i keep seeing in amsterdam,,
ive never realy looked into the hawians,,,im very intrigued tho,,,,hawian/MNS Spice is a good sujestion ,,,,,il defo try an get some growing,
silver pearl is a good sujestion too,,,,,,,,makes me think of the *new* silver bubble i keep seeing in amsterdam,,
man, I wish more of the old school stuff that is still around in the UK would make it's way over here to the states. I'm on like my 3rd or 4th run of the UK cheese clone and it just keeps impressing me more and more everytime. It's hard to believe it's as old as me!
im sure it will happen ,,given time,,,,,
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I'm sure there's loads more old school stuff in the US than in the UK, just it's old, underground cats who have em!
There is a ton of old school herb for sure. I've got a few 15-25 year old American strains, but they are mostly from parental genetics that pre-date a lot of the sensi and positronics breeding projects released in the 80s. Also, breeders and growers around here aren't as into selective breeding. I feel like it's all about cranking out lots of new stuff, not quality stable things.
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"has anyone who has grown the blues also grown UGORG's crosses?
And if so how do they compare?
VRG(of UGORG) reckons only Arnold Layne of uk420 has the original cut.
p.s. nice buds Im still looking for my first amazing pheno, can only dream of elite cuts lol. "
I WOULD LOVE TO GRIP VRG BY HIS EARS AND SHAG HIS HEAD
totally bollocks every gangbanger hustler and random joe can get hold of cheese and blues round here, on that site they turn your message into spam if you ask people for information about a strain from a different company
And if so how do they compare?
VRG(of UGORG) reckons only Arnold Layne of uk420 has the original cut.
p.s. nice buds Im still looking for my first amazing pheno, can only dream of elite cuts lol. "
I WOULD LOVE TO GRIP VRG BY HIS EARS AND SHAG HIS HEAD
totally bollocks every gangbanger hustler and random joe can get hold of cheese and blues round here, on that site they turn your message into spam if you ask people for information about a strain from a different company
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