BlueDigiBerry F2

[VerdantGreen]

seymourbud, you may be right to be cautious about re-potting. Like bootz says the Bb is a faily light feeder so you may be able to slow down the fading with some simple organic bloom nutes, i would use half strength maybe every other watering for the next couple of weeks.
bootz has given you some good feedback. the only other thing i would add for brown spots - it can mean a lack of oxygen at the roots so make sure your plant is drying out a bit inbetween waterings and perhaps add a little more perlite for next run if you think this might be the problem.

i also agree that a slow fading from the bottom of the plant isnt too much to worry about - and i would add that the best quality smoke often comes from the plants that fade out and yellow out the most spectacularly. after around 5-6 weeks i am hoping my plants are fading and worry if they arent! its often dictated by genetics as well as nute availability and rootbinding.
the worst thing you can do is aver-react and add too much feed at this point.

blueberry is notoriously sensitive to environment and feeding - not all of them but some. its the sort of strain to try when you have your grow space and style 'dialed in'

VG

 

[Gil Tokerson]

Day 42 update:

#1 has developed the same blueberry muffin smell as#3. It's not as strong, and took much longer to show. But it's the same smell. It's also the biggest, beefiest plant I've ever grown. So I can't wait to try it again. It only has one main cola, so I'm going to try to top it a few times, and see if it will scrog out for me.

 

[Gil Tokerson]

#2 has a different funny sweet smell. It's good, but not blueberry muffins. It has the most perfect branchy structure for scrog growing. Unfortunately it is the most herm prone of all of them. After I plucked all balls early on, it has now given a bunch of bananas coming out of the buds. I don't think I'm going to run her again

 

[Gil Tokerson]

#3 reeks of blueberry muffins. If I even graze it with my hand,I stink all day long. No amount of washing gets it off. I'm hoping I can beef her up a little next run. Pretty bud also.


#1 in front, #2 behind:

 

[dank.frank]

That #3 looks like it's going to be a real winner!

She has plenty of time to go too it would seem! Nice looking gals, Gil!

Glad to hear of the strong blueberry smells...old school blueberry muffins - I know that one well! yum!!



dank.Frank

 

[VerdantGreen]

they look good Gil, some impressive colas and, as frank says, great to hear about the blueberry smells.

the clawing you have on the leaves of number 1 might indicate you could back of the N slightly next time... and the curling up of the leaves can sometimes indicate heat/light stress. heat also encourages the N clawing imo.
less N and a bit cooler will probably help the Bluebery smells come through stronger as well.

nice work Gil

VG

 

[Gil Tokerson]

They stretched more than I anticipated, and are closer than they should be to the light. The leaves are getting a little curled and crispy, bud the buds don't seem to mind. Before next run I'm going to raise the light some. This run was really just to sex them, and get an idea of the phenos. On the next run I'm going to really try to dial them in. That being said, the buds are looking pretty darn good so far, and I'm really neglecting this room. The main cola on#1 is 2 liter bottle sized and hard as a rock. Same blueberry smell as#3. My cuttings are out growing their current home, so I might chop these a little early so I can start the next run, and do it right. Kind of a shame, but hey, they're just flowers!
Day 46 pics:
#2 - three headed nug

#1 main top

#1 side bud (getting purple-not cool temps)

 

[oldbootz]

great shots! i took pics but i forgot to bring the camera back... anyways i will fetch it soon.

i got some bad news. i checked the BDB this morning and i found bananas on every single plant. they looked at similar stage to Gils above, but they could have gone longer - im thinking 2-3 weeks more. i took pics of the bananas for DankFrank and VG to have a look at. Its probably my environment. Its not perfectly light proof for a start and the ballast stopped working for a week in early flower. Im going to try them all again in clone form. on a positive note, when i chopped them all down, the smells oh my god the smells. such divine terpene madness.

 

[oldbootz]

Some info:
#1: smells the same still. sweet delicious candy with hints of berry.

#2: less soapy smell now and more similar to the #1 than before. not much dank skunk smell in any of these two.

#3: was taken too early to tell. if all goes well, the next clone can give me the answer.

#4: sweet fruity skunk smell very pungent.

#5: smells like burnt rubber and wood. very different from the others.

#6: smells like a combination between the #4 and the #5.

if there were no nanners i would not hesitate to grow them all again and again.

 

[VerdantGreen]

thanks for the update bootz. great to hear that the smells are hitting the spot - especially as good 'blueberry' terpenes seem hard to find these days.... but there is definitely some cause of concern with the male flowers. hard to draw conclusions if your photoperiod was messed up but even so im going to put these on hold until we have some more testing in.

it will be interesting to see what happens if you run them again. i think i need to try and run a batch of these myself and perhaps work the line a bit, i didnt really want to narrow down the genetic diversity though so i'll have to have a think about what the best thing to do is.

VG

 

[Gil Tokerson]

I could be way off, but here's a thought:
DJ's original blueberry was made up mostly of old-school sativas. The thai perhaps being the one bringing the profile that has stuck around all these years. From what I've read, it's almost impossible to find landrace sativas that don't exhibit some herm traits.
Now the bdb is far from a landrace, however maybe the same genes bringing these awesome blueberry terpines, are also carrying some herm tendencies with them?
Just a thought. I'm far from an expert. When I got the bdb pack,I did some general research on blueberry strains, and this is what I came up with. Could be totally wrong.
The 2 of mine that really smell of blueberry were the least hermy out of my 3. And they are completely different phenos, but with the same smell. After i picked the initial male flowers off,I haven't seen anymore. Does that mean I got all of them, and I won't have any surprise seeds in my buds? Probably not, but this stuff smells like heaven, so a few random seeds won't hurt anyone. Now if they're completely full of seeds, it might be a different story. Either way, there's definitely something worth having in this line, so don't give up on it yet.
-gil

 

[VerdantGreen]

hey gil, i think you are close to the truth there... the Blue lines are notorious for intersex traits - so i guess it would be incredibly lucky if there were no nanners to be found when growing out the BDB. Its one of those challenges that many people give up on - to find a great blueberry plant - because they run into herms etc.
Like you say it seems that good blueberry smells are quite common in the BDB, so its just a case of assessing how common the intersex traits are and if it's acceptable.

VG

 

[Gil Tokerson]

I bet in a stable, organic environment, without any light problems, that most of them will do fine. I'd love to see you grow some out vg. Gonna chop mine this weekend on day 56. I think #1 will pretty much be done by then. I think #2 is done now. And #3 could probably go 80 days, but I'mGoing to chop anyway. I'll let her go longer next time.
-gil

 

[seymourbud]

I bet in a stable, organic environment, without any light problems, that most of them will do fine. I'd love to see you grow some out vg. Gonna chop mine this weekend on day 56. I think #1 will pretty much be done by then. I think #2 is done now. And #3 could probably go 80 days, but I'mGoing to chop anyway. I'll let her go longer next time.
-gil

56 days is much shorter then I had expected. Have you looked through a scope yet? Interested in the % of clear/milky/amber at day 56. I was planning on 70days for mine, if it will make it that long...

 

[Gil Tokerson]

No,I haven't checked with a scope. Just going on the overall look of ripeness, and the number of white hairs remaining. I'm sure they could all stand to go longer, but I'm ready to start over with cuttings, and run them a little better. That being said, my #2 is pretty ripe looking, with basically no remaining white hairs. I'll do them right next time.
-gil

 

[oldbootz]

my apologies for the HPS i totally forgot when i was taking pics...

a few of the nanas

BDBf2 #6

BDBf2 #1

BDBf2 #4

the messy tub group shot

#5 is the big one on the far left
#2 is the big one on the far right
#1 is in the front to the left of the #2
#4 is hidden at the back
#6 is squashed between the 1 and 5

 

[oldbootz]

BDBf2 #5

Vegging cuts, BDB among others

Rooted clones of BDB and others, the cycle continues

just for fun, one of my fav cuts, Cherry Chunk #1

This was created with a Northern Lights X Deep Chunk father from seeds that VG gifted me. The mother was a private IBL project of Blueberry X Mazar i Sharif gifted to me by a fellow grower.

 

[VerdantGreen]

thanks bootz, it'll be interesting to see if they are more stable if/when you run the cuts on a stable light cycle.

let us know how they smoke!

cheers

VG

 

[Gil Tokerson]

chopping in the morning. I unplugged the light yesterday morning to give them a couple days of dark before the chop. I don't know if this really does much, but I figure it at least gives the terpines some time to build up without being burned off by the light and heat.

So after a day and a half I the dark, I've got some deep dark purpling on quite a few leaves. It's spreading to the buds a little on the tips of the calyxes. If I could let it go another week or 2, I think it would look pretty nice.
Is this something to do with the extended darkness, or is this just the stage when this purpling begins? Temps are not cold at all. Probably 68ish at the lowest. I'll get some pics at harvest, but I've Been flushing for a while, so the leaves are looking a little scraggly. Can't wait!
Pics to come.

-gil

 

[oldbootz]

hey guys

yes VG i will be running them all again at least once. i have #4 and #6 and #3 at 3 weeks in already. the #4 is really "growing" on me, im liking it more and more from cut.

the smells are already changing. i can detect a bit of incense kind of smell on the #1 and #2 now. smoke report coming in the next two weeks.

ive actually been smoking the #3 for a bit now and its very pleasant even taken at 5 weeks ! a soft sweet berry flavour. the high is mildly sedative with a lot going on in the head. i can still think quite clearly but feel quite lazy.