Blueberry F5, all sterile males

[revegeta666]

If you can do better? It begs the question, why don't you make your own seedline?

You smell like an armchair pundit, with so many options today. Your choice is to act like a bitch. Damn son!

I just said that seeds are expensive enough to come with a surprise. This is just a comment, you don't need to have a full meltdown about it lmao. You just defined yourself and have no place to call anyone a bitch if you get that offended by a little comment like that wtf. What would happen if I said you are fat or something, would you shoot me?

By the way, what kind of argument is that I should make seeds myself. What??? Who said I can do better? Wtf so if I don't like pepsi, I should just shut up and make a full soda company? How stupid can you be?

 

[regseeds]

I just said that seeds are expensive enough to come with a surprise. This is just a comment, you don't need to have a full meltdown about it lmao. You just defined yourself and have no place to call anyone a bitch if you get that offended by a little comment like that wtf. What would happen if I said you are fat or something, would you shoot me?

By the way, what kind of argument is that I should make seeds myself. What??? Who said I can do better? Wtf so if I don't like pepsi, I should just shut up and make a full soda company? How stupid can you be?

Meltdown........ Good one. My heart rate only moves for my wife when she's butt naked.

 

[exploziv]

I had trouble finding a bb male too, some were not showing pollen, some had sterile pollen. But I do remember I managed to find 1 or 2 in 30 beans. Not sure it's F5 I had, tho. I am asking myself as well if it was an intentional or random trait.. but dj short weed was so weird and special in it's own way that it doesn't even matter. I hope to get to growing the crosses I made with bb and f13 someday soon, too!

 

[revegeta666]

Meltdown........ Good one. My heart rate only moves for my wife when she's butt naked.

And when someone disagrees with you on what's fair to expect from a seed pack apparently

If you like growing his seeds and don't care about the sterile males, I don't see anything wrong with you buying them and growing them. Opinions are just opinions man.

 

[regseeds]

And when someone disagrees with you on what's fair to expect from a seed pack apparently

If you like growing his seeds and don't care about the sterile males, I don't see anything wrong with you buying them and growing them. Opinions are just opinions man.

As they say. opinions are like assholes, everybody has one

 

[Mudballs2.0]

What'd you wake up and decide to fkn be one today?!

 

[Mudballs2.0]

A lot of old school breeders seem to think that their genetics are being "stolen" as they are the building blocks for a lot of more modern strains. In attempt to prevent this, they are creating sterile lines.
just this year i learned so much i now know how it can be done if you wanted to...but it would take high populations, cloning...prly just luck of the draw but once you do find that male/female pairing that does produce sterile males ur golden...not saying that's what DJ has done, just saying it is easier than many think. Especially for anyone 40yrs in the game that has a minimum of genetics and chromosome pairings knowledge. It's our new TM(trademark)

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I would say the beat solution would to be use these sterile males and document your attempts to make seeds. And maybe contact dj and ask which lines he recommends. Every time I have spoke with him he has been very helpful and kind.

 

[bloyd]

I highly doubt dj has the scientific know-how to even make sterile males, just another bb line defect that comes with small number inbreeding.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

I highly doubt dj has the scientific know-how to even make sterile males, just another bb line defect that comes with small number inbreeding.

If he has the scientific know how to breed for some traits why would he not be able to breed for another. If you have enough plants to choose from and a basic understanding of genetics it does not seem to unreasonable.

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Breeder Steve is working on creating sterile females. Imagine growing outdoors with no worry about someone pollinating your crop.

 

[bloyd]

If he has the scientific know how to breed for some traits why would he not be able to breed for another. If you have enough plants to choose from and a basic understanding of genetics it does not seem to unreasonable.

Ploidy manipulation is a bit different than breeding for color or nose.

It doesn't matter how many plants you have to look through if your line is bottlenecked by previous low number inbreeding.

 

[Mudballs2.0]

He's right...if there isn't enough genetic diversity available, it just wont/cant happen. You'd have to introduce heterosis and hope for that golden genetic union. That's where ploidy can help...you get those chromosomes moving and who knows what can happen...you just aint steering it as much as we as humans would want

 

[goingrey]

If you are comfortable assuming that every single breeder on the planet who sells >$100 packs shares your exact perception of quality, more power to you. If I'm spending any significant amount of money on a product or service, I'm going to do the bare minimum to make sure my expectations are somewhere in the ballpark of realistic. To each their own, though.

Yes well, assuming males produce viable pollen isn't a very outrageous expectation. What's the point of sterile male regs anyway? Better off just doing fems then.

Respect to DJ Short for all the work he did especially back when the possible repercussions were rough as f* but I can't support him on this one. At the very least the trait should be mentioned in the catalogue description like @GoatCheese pointed out.

 

[F2F]

Not taking sides here…just want to highlight the irony of differing opinions on this particular matter between the OP and a well known member with the handle Regseeds”!!!! Irony is our friend, nemesis, and the spice of life.

I’ve been stung as a newbie craving high quality genetics. A positive thing you raise visibility I feel. dust yourself off, move on, and remember the learnings.

(No offense to OP or Regseeds. I’m a bit punchy today, and older I get, try to encourage keeping life light and positive)

Peace,
F2F

 

[testuser123]

How did you verify their sterility?

flowered them

 

[testuser123]

How many sterile males did you get? If done on purpose, this would be disgraceful and would guarantee that I will never buy seeds from people who do that. If I paid for the seeds, I will reproduce them or cross them or eat them or piss on them or whatever I want. Like seeds are not expensive enough as it is right?

3 sterile males

 

[testuser123]

Bad breeder, because you was told nope. That's a new one

I can tell you're new here.

Bad breeder for a couple of reasons. First being DJ is quoted with saying that sterile males is "... a trait of high-quality cannabis.". That to me is not true. I have grown dozens of high quality cannabis plants from seed and this is a first. Second, bad business ethic. If you sell seeds that are sterile, offer to replace them, a discount on future order, do something about it.

 

[testuser123]

DJ is 40 years deep in the game. He's selling himself short. If you tallied up his time, $150 is cheap. Excuse the pun.

If you can do better? It begs the question, why don't you make your own seedline?

You smell like an armchair pundit, with so many options today. Your choice is to act like a bitch. Damn son!

My choice is to warn other growers looking to try breeding with DJ short lines, to save their money and time. I lost nearly a year on these seeds, and sacrificed a large part of my grow area to them for no good reason. FYI I am working on my own strain, it has been a work in progress for several years. You act immature, and are overly defensive. What skin do you have in this game?

 

[goingrey]

flowered them

How long for? And they didn't make any pollen? Or they did but it wasn't viable (if so, did you try the pollen on a female known to not be sterile)? Are you growing in or out or in a greenhouse? What kind of lighting if indoors? Soil/hydro/coco?