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Blocking Gov IP's, keep your pc secure now!

thecottonmouthk

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mS,

you can use TOR from any socks 5 web browser. I forget which port this runs on. Privoxy is a good addition to TOR to clean up your traffic of cookies, refers, and stuff like that since socks is leaky.

The only problem with TOR is that any usernames and passwords would be sent over plain text where the exit nodes could sniff this traffic: LEO, script kiddies, etc.. The TOR people will say you need to use end to end encryption to solve this, but icmag is only http at the moment I believe.

I use a commercial anonymizing proxy service at the moment.
 
thecottonmouthk said:
Yeah, but Mandrake and Red Hat/FCx are the best ones for the average user to use and install. Both Debian and Slackware don't offer an easy to use installer. FreeBSD semi easy to install, but forget sounds unless you recompile the kernel - it's mostly a server OS or uber-geek desktop.

For the average user: http://fedora.redhat.com/ is the best bet. It's pretty easy to install, use, update, and it's free.

Yeah, come to think of it, you're probobly right. I was thinking about security mainly as opposed to usability. The Debian installer is pretty darn easy though but you do have to know your chipsets and what not... it does help if your build your system, which in itself is a pretty simple task if you've got a couple hours to kill. I do seem to have lots of time on my hands being single. Literally. Oh man! The things we say when we're drunk!
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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Go ahead, just try and hack my fortress. ;)

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I have a few friends that work as sysadmins and they say that most of the free anonymous proxies are actually owned by the government, and even some of the commercial proxies.

Who knows?

I do know that a static or non-static IP DOES NOT MATTER, it is completely traceable. All IP's are leased to your ISPs or someone by the block. Your IP might change somewhat, but only the individual host, not the network. You are not safe from being traced if you have an account with any ISP in the USA.

The bottom line: The government can track you if they want to. The only way to surf anonymously is to use a computer or net connection that isn't tied to you individually (IE the library or a friend).

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Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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The real bottom line is the govt can only start to track you when you show up on one or more of their lists their keeping tabs on already. If you dont show up on list you cant be tracked. The sheer manhours it would take to sift thru one entire days worth of internet traffic would take hundreds of years. So when thats the reality then the only possibility is they track what they want to look for based on its danger assessed and public pressure. Today its kiddie pron, meth, and copyright downloaders. Tomorrow it might be weed but I doubt it.
 
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then there is always live distros of linux that allow you to keep your windows and boot linux from cd.
 

Babbabud

Bodhisattva of the Earth
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If they really want you I dont care how many proxy servers you use .... they can trace you down if they so desire.
 

thecottonmouthk

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Babbabud said:
If they really want you I dont care how many proxy servers you use .... they can trace you down if they so desire.

Of course that is true, but therefore what? We shouldn't be careful at all?
 

penguins

Member
another linux thread (well, sort of) , i guess i have to post...

word to cannabisaurus, Debian rocks, but for a new linux user it can be kind of intimidating.

Fortunatly the nice people at www.ubuntulinux.com have gone and based an non-techie friendly distro on it:
-Full hardware recognition (all you need to know is what timezone you're in, which hard-drive you want it on, and what resolution your monitor is, evrything worked out of the box, sound, 3d accel., even my USB drives and bluetooth)
-It inherits all the stability that Debian has (uses apt-get and you can install all the same packages as Debian)
-They'll mail you swanky pressed CDs for Free!! (even the shipping!)

just getting the word out...


oh, and TOR+privoxy+switchproxy+firebird is a great combination
 
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other proxy's?

other proxy's?

:joint: Big Toke, I use tor along with firefox for my proxy. you said it should be changed every day or two. don't know too much about proxy's..learned about tor and firefox from you guys here at IC mag. what other proxy's should I consider and how many? even if I don't post pics or talk on here too much (mostly reading and learning) should I even be concerned? :confused:
 

KRS Juan

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Tor & Privoxy currently have about 110 different proxy servers. Each time you load a webpage, 3 different and random proxies are used. In otherwords, T&P do it for ya.

-KRS Juan-
 

Smokey McPot

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hmmm

hmmm

what if this program actually sends information who knows... i dont trust it.

I like most people use windows and ive tried linux, but I always go back to windows after about a month because linux is just not as compatible, if i sat on the computer all day and only went to websites or did work in office, maybe ide use it but i like to run many programs. Linux is built more reliable but at the same time I seemed to have many odd things happen to me on linux. Windows just gets the job done.

Just stick with windows
 

thecottonmouthk

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What I do is have both windows for my desktop and Fedora for my server/proxy gateway. There's no need to limit oneself to one or the other unless you can't fork up an extra $100 for a separate computer.
 

BigToke

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I have a few friends that work as sysadmins and they say that most of the free anonymous proxies are actually owned by the government, and even some of the commercial proxies.
Well I am sure that there is some truth in this but I think that the real danger behind free proxy programs are there motives, there are three things that anyone needs to consider before using free proxy programs. I am not at liberty to say what my position is in telecommunications and electronics but I will share with you a few things that I know for certain.
  1. wither it be the government or just big business and CO. when it comes to free proxy programs there is one thing for sure it is all about data collecting to the end of finding out were the main stream is at on the internet and in order to get this info there welling go give free services, most of the free proxy servers that are in use today are simply for recording the flow of the internet as to know were and how to advertise for the big business and not for the recording of IP’s…………..but on the other hand there are some that are for that purpose and it is for that purpose that I say change-out proxy servers EVERY DAY!! as this will not allow anyone to flag you as a frequent user of any certain site or place on the internet.
  2. the next most dangerous thing about using free proxy programs is there random configuration of severs, in short there are two diff proxy servers that are the most used on the internet today the anonymous ones that were all so familiar with and then there is the transparent ones this is a big no no!!
    • Anonymous: being anonymous on the internet is like pulling a thick warm blanket over you on a very cooled night, it makes you fill really good inside and that’s what it’s supposes to do ~ there are a few things that we should be aware of when we are using a free proxy program and that is make sure that it is anonymous!! most programs that I have observed had many flaws in them including the one’s that I have seen here, so do an independent research of your own and make sure you are running anonymous.
    • Transparent: the flows that I have discovered in many free proxy servers are that they will pick a transparent proxy server over an anonymous one because the speed of the transparent proxy servers are much faster than the anonymous ones even if you configure it not to!! Another thing is also to make sure that you are surfing the internet on the following ports: 80 or 8080 as these are the most common of internet ports and would be much easier to hid in the masses that surf on theses ports, if you find that your free proxy program has put you on some other internet port than those mentioned I would not believe it to be safe as there are is not as much traffic on those ports.
  3. for those of you who are failure the term data-grams you will understand what I am about to say; even as the free proxy programs is not in use there are still data-grams that are still being delivered out to SOMEWERE? This is enough for me not to use them.
really I could go on and on and on about this but I think I’ve said enough………………………for those of you who are interested in the most safest way to surf the internet; get a safe browser like Mozilla Firefox and then go to the Tools tab


after you open the tool-tab drop-down menu go to options.


then you’ll see a list of icons on your left make sure that the top one is selected “General” then at the bottom you’ll see the “Connection Settings” click on that.


now then that well take you to the “connection settings” tab, most likely and by default yours is set to “Direct connection to the internet” if it is your real IP can be got no matter what!! Now then you need to change that to “Manual proxy configuration”


now that you have done that you should have just white blank spaces, the one that you see is just one that I made up and is NOT REAL it is simply for this purpose and is fictitious; so now you need to find some good “anonymous” proxy servers to use, bear in mind any of these free proxy servers are for the soul-purpose of collecting data to be soiled if not owned by the advertising Co. and as the system administrator usually only checks the data every other day or so he/she will bump you off of there proxy server this is NOT a bad thing it’s just the opposite of that it’s a GOOD thing because that means that non of the data that they are collecting is of any use to there advertisers and or Co. and thus bumping you off of there server; on the other hand if you happen to come across what few pub-proxy-servers there are out there that does not bump you off just ask yourself why they don’t? it is more freighting to me to find a proxy server that does not bump me off than one that does not. For security I will not make mention of any specific web-site for obvious reasons but here a simple goggle of free proxy servers after that you have gotten your free proxy servers IP make sure that you put it in all of the fields!!


There are a few other things that you can do to up the security of your system, like I would highly recommend NOT using the same computer that you check your e-mail with to surf the internet but as is a hard thing to do for some folks seeing that they only have one computer, well the next best thing would be to disable the “Java” on that computer as that would make it extremely hard for however to highjack your IP in this way ~~ you can do that by simply following the same steps as before: Tools ~ Options ~ then you want to select the “Web Features” I highly recommend to deselect what I have circled, you may keep the “Enable JavaScript” enabled as this will allow the menus to still function within the IC-Forums BUT you will not be able to operate the CHAT-ROOM without the java enabled that is the draw-back to that


Well I do hope that some of you fine this information useful as some of you here at IC are already failure is this but for those who don’t good luck to ya and maybe if there’s a big interest in this I may go a little more in-depth on the subject.
 

little

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Hello, I am a paranoid dumbass. I've been worried for years about my web surfing being brought up in my real life somehow.

I just reformatted and have spent the last day reading all sorts of shit about anonymous internet use. The different opinions from this thread are likewise to my findings...

Seeking help as are other paranoid lurkers I am sure.
 

StormBringerX

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Easy way to surf the internet anon is to go down to the local ISP and setup a account and pay for 1 year / 6 months up front (in Cash). Give them false name, address, etc. I say local ISP cause they don't give a damn who you are as long as you pay money. Once you have your account and get to your house be sure to dial in to the ISP usuing *67,,ISP-Number. That will block the ISP from loging the phone number that you dialed in with.

Then if they come to find you... you have no phone number to track you down and no real personal information to find you.
 

BigToke

Bio-Bucket Specialist *********
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Easy way to surf the internet anon is to go down to the local ISP and setup a account and pay for 1 year / 6 months up front (in Cash). Give them false name, address, etc. I say local ISP cause they don't give a damn who you are as long as you pay money. Once you have your account and get to your house be sure to dial in to the ISP usuing *67,,ISP-Number. That will block the ISP from loging the phone number that you dialed in with.

Then if they come to find you... you have no phone number to track you down and no real personal information to find you.

……………….This will accomplish nothing!!
 

StormBringerX

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Any why would that not acomplish nothing? Have you worked in or ran a ISP? do you know the inner workings of a ISP?

SO if they don't have any real information on you nor do they have the telephone number that your dialing in on then explain to me how there going to come knocking your door down?
 
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