Blatent election fraud thread

[Gypsy Nirvana]

so if i come armed to one of these trumptard election fraud rallies, get in peoples faces with my open carry gun, someone starts shit with me and chases me, it's all good for me to pop them in the face, run away, get chased by more people, jump on my back and start blind firing into a crowd?

- Yeah - if someone was trying forcibly to de-weapon you - after they tried to set the gas station on fire you were guarding - and you had a whole pack chasing after you - that certainly meant to do you harm -

- its do - or die -

* btw - Rittenhouse was deadly accurate in taking out those who were attacking him with a gun and skateboard - no others were hurt by him - excellent situational awareness - I'd say - self-defence quite obviously -

 

[eugenegreen]

hypothetically,
would he be able to claim self-defense...

.... in merrie ol england, or the modern uk?

 

[Cannavore]

- Yeah - if someone was trying forcibly to de-weapon you - after they tried to set the gas station on fire you were guarding - and you had a whole pack chasing after you - that certainly meant to do you harm -

- its do - or die -

* btw - Rittenhouse was deadly accurate in taking out those who were attacking him with guns and skateboards - no others were hurt by him - excellent situational awareness - I'd say - self-defence quite obviously -

so coming to another state to guard an inanimate object (a building) is justification of murder? i don't think so.


they were trying to take his weapon AFTER he killed a person and ran away.


self defense claims fall apart after he shot and killed Rosenbaum for chasing after Rittenhouse with a plastic bag.


you're telling me if you had no context and saw someone shoot and kill someone, and run away, and then heard onlookers pointing out Rittenhouse as the shooter, you're telling me people wouldn't make an attempt at disarming him?


kid shouldn't of been there plain and simple. he's a murderer.

 

[Zeez]

- Yeah - if someone was trying forcibly to de-weapon you - after they tried to set the gas station on fire you were guarding - and you had a whole pack chasing after you - that certainly meant to do you harm -

- its do - or die -

* btw - Rittenhouse was deadly accurate in taking out those who were attacking him with a gun and skateboard - no others were hurt by him - excellent situational awareness - I'd say - self-defence quite obviously -

It wasn't his property. He did not know the owners. He did not even live in the same town. In fact he had no right to be there. Making himself a self appointed defender and antagonizing protestors with a weapon that he brought anticipating such a situation, this would be premeditated.

I don't think that a minor can even legally own firearms. And, at his young age, he is not mentally capable of making such a decision.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

hypothetically,
would he be able to claim self-defense...

.... in merrie ol england, or the modern uk?

- First off - the gun laws are totally different in the UK - we don't have any 2nd Amendment - so no right to bear arms - as you all do stateside - no open carry here at all allowed - so it wouldn't have happened - and if a 17 year old kid who was helping to protect a property during a riot/looting fiasco - and was chased down by a rioting mob as Rittenhouse was - because he was stopping them from burning down a gas station - he might well have been stabbed to death - or at least got 'a good kicking' -

* I guess that you didn't see the video where Rittenhouse helped to remove the burning dumpster aimed at the gas station Zeez - and many of the 'protestors' were armed -

** The first person the kid shot - was in his face for 5 minutes before screaming to be shot - before Rittenhouse withdrew and was chased by that same guy - who tried to take his gun off him -

 

[Cannavore]

meanwhile the "antifa shooter" who killed teh patriot prayer guy, Michael Reinhoehl, was summarily executed by police outside of his home and Trump took credit for it. even bragged about it.


witnesses say Reinohhel was either walking to, or getting out of his car (i don't remember offhand). cops claim he had a gun, pulled up, and executed him. no judge no jury just a straight up retaliatory execution for killing one of their good ole boys.


not a peep from the media or the small govt patriots

 

[eugenegreen]

- First off - the gun laws are totally different in the UK - we don't have any 2nd Amendment - so no right to bear arms - as you all do stateside - no open carry here at all allowed - so it wouldn't have happened - and if a 17 year old kid who was helping to protect a property during a riot/looting fiasco - and was chased down by a rioting mob as Rittenhouse was - because he was stopping them from burning down a gas station - he might well have been stabbed to death - or at least got 'a good kicking' -

* I guess that you didn't see the video where Rittenhouse helped to remove the burning dumpster aimed at the gas station Zeez - and many of the 'protestors' were armed -

** The first person the kid shot - was in his face for 5 minutes before screaming to be shot - before Rittenhouse withdrew and was chased by that same guy - who tried to take his gun off him -

he might of been doused in acid too from what i know about england...
crazy what people do to circumvent the lack of guns.

not generally all over the world,
but definitely in the uk

 

[trichrider]

Trump Now Says Biden Will Have To 'Prove' His 80 Million Votes Weren't Fraudulent Before Giving Up White House

 

[JKD]

What happens if this somehow makes it all the way to SCOTUS, and they rule against Trump? Do his supporters accept the ruling, or do they then decide even SCOTUS is part of the conspiracy?

Trump Now Says Biden Will Have To 'Prove' His 80 Million Votes Weren't Fraudulent Before Giving Up White House

Certainly not the most honourable of chaps.

 

[Cannavore]

Trump Now Says Biden Will Have To 'Prove' His 80 Million Votes Weren't Fraudulent Before Giving Up White House

this is a textbook example of a burden of proof logical fallacy.

 

['Boogieman']

so if i come armed to one of these trumptard election fraud rallies, get in peoples faces with my open carry gun, someone starts shit with me and chases me, it's all good for me to pop them in the face, run away, get chased by more people, jump on my back and start blind firing into a crowd?

Don't know about Wisconsin but in my state just passed a law if a mob is chasing you and you feel threatened you have the right to protect yourself by any means.

 

['Boogieman']

so coming to another state to guard an inanimate object (a building) is justification of murder? i don't think so.


they were trying to take his weapon AFTER he killed a person and ran away.


self defense claims fall apart after he shot and killed Rosenbaum for chasing after Rittenhouse with a plastic bag.


you're telling me if you had no context and saw someone shoot and kill someone, and run away, and then heard onlookers pointing out Rittenhouse as the shooter, you're telling me people wouldn't make an attempt at disarming him?


kid shouldn't of been there plain and simple. he's a murderer.

He was protecting himself, when a mob of people are after you you can't keep an eye on everyone but if mistakes are made I blame the mob not the single individual.

 

[Hammerhead]

He was protecting himself after he had already killed 1. I'm sure he felt threaten, who wouldn't after killing someone and then chased as you run away. The mob was chasing him BECAUSE HE ALREADY KILLED 1. By this logic the mob had every right to put him down for killing a person already.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

What happens if this somehow makes it all the way to SCOTUS, and they rule against Trump? Do his supporters accept the ruling, or do they then decide even SCOTUS is part of the conspiracy?



Certainly not the most honourable of chaps.

If you're not with them, you are obviously against them and therefore a member of the Deep State or blind to it.

Donald Trump, habitual and convicted liar, is the only one telling the truth here.

 

[eugenegreen]

kyle rottenhouse's mom is a hoe...


back on track here.

we all know this "blatant election fraud" really just boils down to this

the way they're denigrating philly, milwaukee, atlanta and detroit is despicable

(not really going after phoenix and las vegas the same way)

 

[armedoldhippy]

I will vote for the 2A party until fully automatic weapons are legal to purchase at gun stores. The Supreme Court can roll back the unconstitutional bump stock ban any time now. I'm not sure what Trump was trying to do there but it's unconstitutional. Suppressors should be 100% legal too.

full auto & suppressors ARE legal, but you have to pass a more severe background check & pay a $500 fee (up to $1000 in certain states) to get your class 3 license. "legal" does NOT mean "no restrictions". we've been over this about 12 times already...

 

[Amynamous]

The argument of “self-defense” goes away when the “self-defender” is the instigator.
I have seen Kyle in videos where he is running around with his rifle in attack mode with his finger on the trigger and he was also repeatedly pointing the rifle at people. That is aggressive behavior. What else was Kyle doing to piss off people? I certainly didn’t see the crowd attack anyone else with rifles. Lots of unanswered questions.

 

[armedoldhippy]

The second amendment gives anyone the right to bear arms, even felons. I believe Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent by self defense.

wrong again. felons may not own firearms, nor even touch them. idiots have gone back to prison for posing with a gun in pictures on Facebook etc. in some states, you can get your rights back after serving time, paying fines etc. just like voting. believe what you want. he could not legally even OWN that AR, much less cross state lines & kill people with it. it can be argued that he was acting in self defense, it is a moot point since he did not legally buy it/own it...person that was the straw-buyer is in shit now too. not bright...

 

[armedoldhippy]

I blame the mob not the single individual.

yeah, yeah. who's finger pulled the trigger? THAT is who a judge is going to hammer.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

full auto & suppressors ARE legal, but you have to pass a more severe background check & pay a $500 fee (up to $1000 in certain states) to get your class 3 license. "legal" does NOT mean "no restrictions". we've been over this about 12 times already...

It's $200 to the feds for each piece. In return you go through a rigorous FBI background check and receive a copy of your initial application with a nifty stamp attached to it saying you've jumped through the appropriate hoops.

If the states/local tack on more, that's something I am unaware of, as WI doesn't do any such nonsense.

Boogie - this where I point out that gun rights expanded under Obama (Heller vs. DC) and Trump took them away (bumpstocks).

Donald Trump and the GOP are not friendly to the 2nd Amendment. And I would argue that if you really cared about the 2nd, you'd be all in on M4A and a UBI which combined would end 75% of gun violence without touching the 2nd Amendment. Which is the end result of gun control, or so they claim.