thunderbunny
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bio-bullcrap or bio-paradise?
bio-bullcrap or bio-paradise?
Excuse my french, but this is beyond overkill!
The fastest way to grow a colony of beneficial bacteria is to throw a thimble full (or more) of compost starter into the water...this bull about letting the buckets sit in the open air so that the beneficials can fall from the air and inoculate the lava rock is beyond unbelievable....there are millions of bacteria, molds, mold spores, viruses, etc floating around in your rooms air....the beneficials do not separate themselves from the bad bugs just because you wish that they would!
It is the same as growing mushrooms on straw or compost. Pre colonized mushroom spawn (in the form of grain or compost) is added to the growing medium in very large quantities; this is so the mushroom mycelium can outgrow all of the competing microorganisms that also want to feast off of the bulk growing medium, be it pasteurized straw or compost. Again, unless you actually add the compost starter to the water, you will be growing a multitude of bad crap along with the desired bacteria.
Running the setup for two weeks before planting? why? if the beneficials are in there, they are growing and slowly colonizing the system whether there are plants in the netpots or not. Why waste two freaking weeks running a hydro system with nothing growing? The bacteria will multiply at the same time that your plants are growing, and eventually reach your desired numbers. Why waste two weeks per crop? TEN weeks per year equals another finished crop!
Do not mean to burst bubbles, or anything like that, but i have not seen a single picture of a successfully FINISHED crop from these bio-buckets....why go thru the time and effort if they do not work? If someone can show me the massive yields off of bio grown plants, then I will shut up....however, I find it suspect that after 74 pages of bio-bucket madness, there are no pics of finished, ready to harvest plants?
Help me to understand bio-bucket overkill! I currently only grow outdoors (no grow light like the sun) Back in the 80's and 90's (using Seed Bank Skunk 1 x NL) we filled 12 5-gallon buckets with lava rocks, and flooded them with a pump a couple of times per lighting cycle (2 kw halides), and easily realized a quarter pound per clone per 9 week cycle, as long as nutrients, and ph, are mixed and adjusted properly! Thats .7 grams per watt using nothing more than a cheap pond pump and a $12 digital timer. Oxygen is sucked into the grow medium as the water drains...simplicity! Tell me why I was not also growing colonies of beneficial bacteria? the pots were flooded, the lava rock was wetted down with nutrient mix, and, after draining the bucket, the rock was exposed to the open air...are you telling me that I did not have the exact same setup without all of the drama?
No "waterfalls" needed! The hydro water was injected with massive amounts of dissolved oxygen because we added a second line to the output of the pump that would spray a stream of water back into the reservoir nutrient solution...same way that bait shops add oxygen to their minnow tanks.
Waiting to be enlightened!
bio-bullcrap or bio-paradise?
Excuse my french, but this is beyond overkill!
The fastest way to grow a colony of beneficial bacteria is to throw a thimble full (or more) of compost starter into the water...this bull about letting the buckets sit in the open air so that the beneficials can fall from the air and inoculate the lava rock is beyond unbelievable....there are millions of bacteria, molds, mold spores, viruses, etc floating around in your rooms air....the beneficials do not separate themselves from the bad bugs just because you wish that they would!
It is the same as growing mushrooms on straw or compost. Pre colonized mushroom spawn (in the form of grain or compost) is added to the growing medium in very large quantities; this is so the mushroom mycelium can outgrow all of the competing microorganisms that also want to feast off of the bulk growing medium, be it pasteurized straw or compost. Again, unless you actually add the compost starter to the water, you will be growing a multitude of bad crap along with the desired bacteria.
Running the setup for two weeks before planting? why? if the beneficials are in there, they are growing and slowly colonizing the system whether there are plants in the netpots or not. Why waste two freaking weeks running a hydro system with nothing growing? The bacteria will multiply at the same time that your plants are growing, and eventually reach your desired numbers. Why waste two weeks per crop? TEN weeks per year equals another finished crop!
Do not mean to burst bubbles, or anything like that, but i have not seen a single picture of a successfully FINISHED crop from these bio-buckets....why go thru the time and effort if they do not work? If someone can show me the massive yields off of bio grown plants, then I will shut up....however, I find it suspect that after 74 pages of bio-bucket madness, there are no pics of finished, ready to harvest plants?
Help me to understand bio-bucket overkill! I currently only grow outdoors (no grow light like the sun) Back in the 80's and 90's (using Seed Bank Skunk 1 x NL) we filled 12 5-gallon buckets with lava rocks, and flooded them with a pump a couple of times per lighting cycle (2 kw halides), and easily realized a quarter pound per clone per 9 week cycle, as long as nutrients, and ph, are mixed and adjusted properly! Thats .7 grams per watt using nothing more than a cheap pond pump and a $12 digital timer. Oxygen is sucked into the grow medium as the water drains...simplicity! Tell me why I was not also growing colonies of beneficial bacteria? the pots were flooded, the lava rock was wetted down with nutrient mix, and, after draining the bucket, the rock was exposed to the open air...are you telling me that I did not have the exact same setup without all of the drama?
No "waterfalls" needed! The hydro water was injected with massive amounts of dissolved oxygen because we added a second line to the output of the pump that would spray a stream of water back into the reservoir nutrient solution...same way that bait shops add oxygen to their minnow tanks.
Waiting to be enlightened!
