BigTokes Hardcore, Bio-Buckets—Playing Around Is Over!!!

[julman]

I am disabled, & Wish I could build a BIO Bucket system, I cannot, does anyone send t

I am disabled, & Wish I could build a BIO Bucket system, I cannot, does anyone send t

I am disabled, & wish I could built my own " BIO BUCKET" system !!!! . I could never get materials, its hard enough just to get to a hydro store, or a hardware store, Very Hard for me ??. Does any one sell them, or will anyone make me a unit???. I am in Ontario, Canada, I am legally allowed 50 plants, but would love 2- 18 "BIO BUCKETS SYSTEMS " !!!!!!! Please if U can help , or find me a unit , that I can get in Canada or to Canada, Please send me some HELP !! Thanks ALL !!!!! , NICE SYSTEM -Big Toke !!!!!!!!!!

 

[BigToke]

I am sorry about your disabilities and wish that I was in the position that I could help or had the time right now to build you one but I don’t ~ at the very best that I can do is to give you all of the free advice that you need to build yourself one or have some one else build it for you………..good luck ether way.

 

[xxsicknessxx]

I ask to manny questions

1. What about using Nutriants like ryztonic that help roots grow/ and break down dead root /plant matter.. would that be needed? or would it even be helpfull in your ssystem? Would Sweet casue a problem?

Im thinking of using SuperNatruel (brand) in congunction with Sweet/ Ryztonic and at the end a supernatruel Bud blaster product...

and for a 3,000 watt room would 15 buckets be enough? I can veg them extra big Im looking for large yeilds or would 20 be more what Im looking for? I Might toss a few soil plants in the room for personal smoke

Like what if you added Some Benifiicel Microbes to give your system a startoff? I Mean if its not nessisery its not nessisery but I want to hit over .50grams per watt which was my best I have done I want /75 this time around is that crazzy? or is that doable with your system?

Sweet is a kind of suger right? but I love the product can I sitll use it? and do you find you get rock hard nugs? or does it really depend on genetics... sorry to ask so much im so exceited to get this grow going I need to build it fast !! I hope it doesn't cost me 2.5k! though thats a lot! What made it to expensive or is that not american?

 

[simba]

ok there was way to many pages for me to read all of them..

the lava rocks.. what exact kinds.. can we make them smaller-crush them and mix with higromite or something...

also what about using regular media (hydrotron-higromite) and then having a bunch of lava rocks in the res...
or something..
i just dont get the alive part LOL
how do take normal watter and creat these benificial micros..

 

[xxsicknessxx]

so Im thinking to cut the 2 weeks of run time needed before you put your plants in, try general hydroponics Benificel Microbs.. it contains like 250 benficel microbes.. Do you think this would help?

Also is it just me or does it seem with your set up that a 3 part forumula offers more controll then a 2 part? IM a bit worried to try something like advanced nutriants or even supernaturel becasue you say that the plants react differntley...

My buddy gets 1pound per DWC Plant (he has elecent genetics) Do you think you could produce the same? or is that not the idea behind your system, I was wondering becasue I like less plants.. and while 36 plants per 3600 watts isn't a insane number, it still feels high for me.. do you think I could pull 6oz per plant with your system, or would I be better off pulling 3oz per plant less chance of stressin plant out, and yada yada.. im just curious what you think about the capablities of your system... Like I said before im thinking of 2 3,000 watt rooms.. bolth with this system... I may end up however doing 1 room soil and 1 room biobuckts (soil) to just get something started right now.

a photo from my last grow
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[simba]

N/M about the air.. i got the water fall

what are those pucks xx

 

[BudGood2006]

Guys, I'm no authority, but I'll try to answer what questions I can.

As far as beneficials go, you would be better off letting the system colonize itself, as the bacteria in the air is a-superior to anything you can get in a bottle, and b-it's free! I was thinking the same thing (getting the system going quicker), but after all the reading I've done, I came to the conclusion that a week or two for the BB to build up is worth waiting (My system took about a week to colonize, but I have a smaller system)

The beneficials are created by the waterfall, and they live in the lava rock's pores. As far as hydroton goes, it won't work in this system, I've seen many peeps ask BigToke, it doesn't have the porous surface that the lava rock does, and it won't support a larger plant correctly. The lava rocks he recommends using are red lava, they have an added bonus of giving off large amounts of silica. Size, not too large, not too small.

And as far as there being too much to read, sorry, but if you want the info, you'll have to do some reading. People don't mind answering questions here, but no one is gonna hand you the system on a platter. There are too many nuances and details that you need to absorb, hence the reason for so much info on constuction and operation. I recommend you set aside a few nights to do some intense reading, there are quite a few Bio-Bucket threads around here, all the info you need. BigToke seems to be a bit busy lately, so if you want to build this system, start checking out others threads and formulate a plan of attack. I hope this last paragraph didn't come off as rude, it wasn't intended that way. Anyway, good luck, these buckets ROCK!

 

[xxsicknessxx]

its not rude, but I did read everything, I just maybe don't have a good understand of some of the things that he says some times, like his words are a bit off or I understand them wrong, so I ask a lot of questions I am reading it all and only missing pages where there isn't much information on the buckets them selves.. also Im building them tommorow SO I have to get this right the first time... I mean rockwoll cubes not hydrton rocks I screwed up my words... I hope the fact that I veg them pretty big won't be a problem... hmm

 

[xxsicknessxx]

the pics our hangers the held the larger plant sup that was my sour D grow.. it was the best bud I ever grew smelled like new shoes out of the box fresh haha

 

[BigToke]

To ALL that may have Q’s about the Bio-System ~ I’m sorry about not being there as much as I would like, it’s just not possible right now but that are some very nice bio-system that are being constructed that I have seen here at IC, ……so please ask those folks some of your questions on how they did it and what would be the best for you and btw only you can decide what’s best for your growing situation.

 

[DirtDr.]

Very nice post,
Its nice to see someone who understands the hole concept.
Great post.

 

[seaofvert]

B.T,
i ve a few things i d like to understand better.
(first of all me being french doesn t make it easy so if you could use as less shortened words as you can it would be a great help)

When you top up your res with tap water the ph must change a lot in your solution . is this correct?if correct when and how often do you put it back to the right level?
once you started a growth you never change the entire water system (at once i mean)?if not correct when and why?
Do you use h2o2 in case of bad bacterias issue?
if yes how does it affect the good bacterias in this kind of system ?
what is R/O water .
I m sorry to ask u so many questions but you seem to be the one how knows and i seem to be the one who doesn t .
Nethertheless i spent time reading your how to bio buckets thread and i found it astonishing .
i m gonna built myself one of these beautiful system with 12 bio buckets and have to spread the words around about this system.


all the best
sea

 

[gnarly]

i love this thread.

 

[frowski]

i'm curious if anybody has any experience of huge plants clogging the drain with roots...heh, if not i'd like to share my experience:

i had an 8 bucket bio system going, built pretty much the same as the description here. i had this one pure power plant clone in here rigiht, and this thing was HUGE. so one day i noticed water overflowing from the top of the bucket and i pulled the plant up to realize i can't even pull the damned net out of the lid because there were no lie rope like roots growing ALL THE WAY INTO THE RESEVOIR! seriously like 4 or probably 5 feet of drain tubing down into the resevoir! ha, the plant ended up fucking up because of root rot..you live you learn. recommendation to all, with any bio bucket system ALWAYS have air bubblers in the resevoir to add extra o2, and ALSO a water bubbler in EVERY BUCKET. you will see incredible increase in root development.

anybody have any experience with roots clogging your system with large growing strains? i should have taken pictures...heh

anybody ever build something like this except with larger containers, maybe using some small resovoir style single 8" net pots in replace of the buckets, they'd fit together nicely like legos...

peace, stay blazed

 

[headiez247]

i'm curious if anybody has any experience of huge plants clogging the drain with roots...heh, if not i'd like to share my experience:

i had an 8 bucket bio system going, built pretty much the same as the description here. i had this one pure power plant clone in here rigiht, and this thing was HUGE. so one day i noticed water overflowing from the top of the bucket and i pulled the plant up to realize i can't even pull the damned net out of the lid because there were no lie rope like roots growing ALL THE WAY INTO THE RESEVOIR! seriously like 4 or probably 5 feet of drain tubing down into the resevoir! ha, the plant ended up fucking up because of root rot..you live you learn. recommendation to all, with any bio bucket system ALWAYS have air bubblers in the resevoir to add extra o2, and ALSO a water bubbler in EVERY BUCKET. you will see incredible increase in root development.

anybody have any experience with roots clogging your system with large growing strains? i should have taken pictures...heh

anybody ever build something like this except with larger containers, maybe using some small resovoir style single 8" net pots in replace of the buckets, they'd fit together nicely like legos...

peace, stay blazed

haha what a sort-of good problem to have....

the scary part comes when the flooding happens and nobody is there to take care of it... scary...

for my bio buckets we installed some screens at hte bottom of each bucket so roots couldn't cause any sort of cloggage.


EDIT: Big toke, wanted to give u props for posting this, it inspired me to do this gigantic, scary, but awesome grow.

 

[roysik]

hey why can i not see alot of these pictures

 

[moses224]

he deleted them so he could have space look at sticky

 

[KING_JOHN_C]

good thread here!

 

[budshoteyes]

I have to say bigtoke's design is one of the best ever tree machines ever!!!

I wonder if Heath was influenced by bigtoke's top drain.....bigtoke's is the only one I will use cause it never clogs and Is adjustable!!! How.....place an elbow on the inside of the drain and angel it to the height needed...thnx Jungliedunglies for the tip!!!

 

[Iamnumber]

Thanks for the many informative threads BigToke!! will need to revisit them several times to absorb all the info.

Few questions if I may? I will try to be short and to the point. (should you disagree pointers/reference/advice would be most appreciated).

did you manage to get a success with 'stasis of the sapling' project? Sounds very cool in Herbert West kinda way.. I would love to hear how round two went.

Would you agree that following would be a plausible path to bio-buckets? (Due to limitations specific to me).
Build a large reservoir (30-40 Gal eff volume),
Plants (1 or 2, 3 max) in net-pot ~42-62% submerged.
Lava stones well baked in oven before putting them into system.
Speeding up the colonisation a bit by getting a handful of compost dirt into a bag and soaking it in reservoir.
recycling water & oxygenate with a water pump within reservoir (intent is to create a vortex. pump would be max 300 GPH (1200 L/H)).
Adding small amounts of grow fertiliser? minerals? (I might have missed the info on what would be the 'easy' steps of speeding up / improving chances of good outcome.
Let it run (eta 1 week, 2 week as worst case scenario) before introducing plants


Your setup is designed for veg/harvest. Would you agree that IF one were aiming at re-vegging&re-flowering it would be adviceable to use a bit more volume for netpot & plant specific reservoir (and main reservoir would also have to be larger)? I would venture a guess of ~1,5* each?

G=Gallon

Your run was 1G for netpot, 20G for plant specific reservoir (- half a gallon for netpot with lavastones and one and half a gallon for airspace in bucket == 18G reservoir for plant). setup was 36 plants. so 648G plant specific water reservoirs - wow.. that is A LOT!!).

Tub was 55G and looked to be ~half filled or bit less (to allow waterfall). So lets take a bit high estimate of 32G of water (to make things easier). that would put us at 20:1 ratio with plant_reservoir:main_reservoir.

Would you agree that the ratio should change as number of plants change? Fewer plants meaning bigger ratio for main reservoir?

I am doing my first run now and I am planning ahead for my 3rd/4th run.

Thank you once again for spending your time and energy on sharing your experience on forum!!