Biden Victory Thread!!

[Switcher56]

that mofo will be 78 in 2020... he literally had to concentrate and use both hands to lift a small cup of water, and bragged about being able to take three large steps down a ramp.

not that being physically peak is a prerequisite (eg taft and roosevelt 2) but i just don't think he has another round of campaigning in him.

Wrong! He turned 74 on the 14th of Jun. He was born in '46.

 

[Switcher56]

So between the 2 of you, you know 71 million people that voted for Trump?

By doing what you are doing, you're talking down to them. You're lumping 71 million people together and labelling them as racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and stupid. There are those people within the Trump ranks. but there's not 71 million of them I can guarantee. Just like there is in the DNC. Stupid has no political association.

I know a few Trump supporters. I would say none of them are any of those things.

What Trump represented was middle finger to the top 1%, even though he is that top 1%. It was rhetoric that attracted them. And when asked is your life better today than it was 4 years ago? They all say yes. And that's what matters to them. They don't need to fact check that their life is better because they're living it! Nobody has ever given a shit about them, so they don't giver a shit about anybody else.

Saying an entire group of people don't fact check or believe in the truth is the exact reason why they voted for Trump in the first place. It's the condescending attitude of the Left that they absolutely hate and will continue to vote against, even if it is in their own best interest to vote for it.

The best way to change people's minds is to engage with them and learn what they need and want. Not tell them what they need and want. Then follow through.

^^ that there ^^

 

[Switcher56]

still don't believe the proud boys are a fascist group?
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... from my vantage point, it seems to me they have some really dank dope

 

[GOT_BUD?]

I know it’s been said that trump is in lots of debt etc. , but according to fact check thingys he’s in debt for around $1bn, but He’s worth just over $3bn...
so he could pay it off and still be rich af.

The issue is nobody really knows.

You need to remember Trump has 6 pending lawsuits against right now that put in him different legal situations.

The NY AG office is investigating the inner workings of the Trump organization to see if the company had engaged in bank fraud, insurance fraud, criminal tax fraud, and falsification of financial records, in addition to how the Trump organization values his assets.

Washington DC and Maryland are suing him for the emolument clause by having foreign dignitaries staying at the Trump Hotels, therefore enriching himself directly.

E Jean Carrols defamation lawsuit - The old "She's not my type" apparently isn't a real defense in of a rape charge.

Summer Zervos's defamation lawsuit resulting from his defense at her rape trial.

And finally, Mary trump suing Don and the other siblings because she claims she got screwed out of her inheritance by them.

 

[h.h.]

^^ that there ^^

By “ middle finger”, does he mean “huge tax breaks”?

 

[med4u]

Rulings are starting to roll in.....

Pennsylvania Court Rules Secretary of State Improperly Changed Deadline 2 Days Before Election Day https://www.theepochtimes.com/penns...dline-2-days-before-election-day_3576585.html

 

[Zeez]

Nice speech.

Trump has told over 22,000 lies.
Trumps minions have many of his supporters convinced that the 'Q' is real.
You are telling me that Facts do matter to them?

How you get from what I said to what you said is beyond me.

I'm not talking down to anyone.
If you can tell anyone in a nice way, without "talking down to them" or hurting their feelings, or "being condescending" that they were conned by a big time con man then you need to be in sales, just like trump.

Trump has already planting seeds that he'll be back in '24 and some are beginning to cheer him on. I would say that those people are sold, hook, line and sinker, by their messiah of bullshit. Sorry, but you don't get the genius award for this and it might hurt their feelings if you tell them. Reality can be harsh. People of all intelligence levels get conned. Call it gullible if it makes you feel better.

As for this - "lumping 71 million people together and labelling them as racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and stupid". Those are your words, not mine. Some of this applies to trump but making the accusation its a blanket statement on 71 million people is imaginary on your part. Big stretch there from me saying facts don't matter. Thanks for the accusation.

The whole basis of your argument is that what I think about the character flaws and failures of trump applies to all of his supporters. This is simply not true.

You're not going to win them over and facts really don't matter to them.

So between the 2 of you, you know 71 million people that voted for Trump?

By doing what you are doing, you're talking down to them. You're lumping 71 million people together and labelling them as racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and stupid. There are those people within the Trump ranks. but there's not 71 million of them I can guarantee. Just like there is in the DNC. Stupid has no political association.

I know a few Trump supporters. I would say none of them are any of those things.

What Trump represented was middle finger to the top 1%, even though he is that top 1%. It was rhetoric that attracted them. And when asked is your life better today than it was 4 years ago? They all say yes. And that's what matters to them. They don't need to fact check that their life is better because they're living it! Nobody has ever given a shit about them, so they don't giver a shit about anybody else.

Saying an entire group of people don't fact check or believe in the truth is the exact reason why they voted for Trump in the first place. It's the condescending attitude of the Left that they absolutely hate and will continue to vote against, even if it is in their own best interest to vote for it.

The best way to change people's minds is to engage with them and learn what they need and want. Not tell them what they need and want. Then follow through.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

- Hmm - makes me think that Trump is the controlled opposition needed for the divided/polarization effect intended - to keep us all at each others throats - while its 'Business as usual' - behind the scenes, the media and its political soap opera presents the 24/7 show - staring Trump - the main male lead actor - an ex-reality show host - a production to keep us all interested and entertained - but pressured to take sides -

- better to have a nation in flux, divided - than united against the ruling cabal - <powers that be think>

 

[geneva_sativa]

What the media does is very telling,,, who they praise and who they villify

He doesnt seem to march to the same tune as bush, obama, clittin and co,,,

 

[Zeez]

Allot of times distraction is a key component in a con.

When people do something professionally they are able to see very minor imperfections in what they do. A nonprofessional might not see those imperfections at all. This is true of a lawyer, a plumber and a con man. Much of "Reality TV" is getting people to believe the con is real. The actors on the show are there because they are good at what they do. It's allot like old carnival "Carnies" getting people to play games they know they can't win.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Nice speech.

Trump has told over 22,000 lies.
Trumps minions have many of his supporters convinced that the 'Q' is real.
You are telling me that Facts do matter to them?

How you get from what I said to what you said is beyond me.

I'm not talking down to anyone.
If you can tell anyone in a nice way, without "talking down to them" or hurting their feelings, or "being condescending" that they were conned by a big time con man then you need to be in sales, just like trump.

Trump has already planting seeds that he'll be back in '24 and some are beginning to cheer him on. I would say that those people are sold, hook, line and sinker, by their messiah of bullshit. Sorry, but you don't get the genius award for this and it might hurt their feelings if you tell them. Reality can be harsh. People of all intelligence levels get conned. Call it gullible if it makes you feel better.

As for this - "lumping 71 million people together and labelling them as racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and stupid". Those are your words, not mine. Some of this applies to trump but making the accusation its a blanket statement on 71 million people is imaginary on your part. Big stretch there from me saying facts don't matter. Thanks for the accusation.

The whole basis of your argument is that what I think about the character flaws and failures of trump applies to all of his supporters. This is simply not true.

Well your one sentence retort certainly did not convey that message to me. I apologize.

However, he doesn't have 71 million people believing Q is real. They care about the economy. They care that their 401K is as high as it's ever been. They don't see racism in their small community outside of their TVs. What they see is their small community dwindling away to nothing. That's the extent of these people's concern.

Trump didn't talk down to them or spew facts. He talked like "one of the guys". If he wasn't rich he'd just be the loudmouth drunk that shows up at your favorite bar to tell you how the world would change if he were in charge. And to the people in rural America, that's pretty harmless. Hell, most of them could probably call that guy Uncle. That's why Trump won and continues to draw such a crowd.

Like it or not, they're not going away. So you better learn how to talk to them and bring them to the table to address their concerns or the next Trump will be the literal Anti Christ and way more popular. Thank FSM that Trump was such a lazy stupid fuck.

 

[geneva_sativa]

" A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information "

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

- Don't you find it strange that a man that was born into great wealth and position - would be an advocate for the working man? - and would change sides from democrat to republican - just to run for President - as if he was summoned to present an opposition by other higher 'elites?' - a controlled opposition -

- and now his time has expired or not - dependant on his ability to prove that its all a fit-up - and even if he does - the media influenced majority will not accept it - which could lead to more serious unrest - once again keeping that great divide amongst the masses current and active -

-

What the media does is very telling,,, who they praise and who they villify

He doesnt seem to march to the same tune as bush, obama, clittin and co,,,

 

[h.h.]

- Don't you find it strange that a man that was born into great wealth and position - would be an advocate for the working man? - and would change sides from democrat to republican - just to run for President - as if he was summoned to present an opposition by other higher 'elites?' - a controlled opposition -

- and now his time has expired or not - dependant on his ability to prove that its all a fit-up - and even if he does - the media influenced majority will not accept it - which could lead to more serious unrest - once again keeping that great divide amongst the masses current and active -

-

The majority influenced media.

Everybody here seems to think they’re the only ones with immaculate brains. Remaining pure and uninfluenced, while those who digress are puppets of the media. Trump never ever has supported the working man. He’s full of shit and the majority sees it. The media becomes a convenient scapegoat.

 

[Zeez]

Well your one sentence retort certainly did not convey that message to me. I apologize.

Accepted - No biggie.

However, he doesn't have 71 million people believing Q is real. They care about the economy. They care that their 401K is as high as it's ever been. They don't see racism in their small community outside of their TVs. What they see is their small community dwindling away to nothing. That's the extent of these people's concern.

I said many believe the "Q" is real. The sat I saw was the 22% of trump supporters believe the"Q". We all care about our 401. I made a bunch of money too. The fact is the Obama turned around the economy ant trump took credit for it. The Wall St economy and the Main St economies are two different things right now. The rewards are good now but it is very high risk. The thing about racism is that it may not be in your face, but it takes empathy to understand. Most white people can't understand what it is to be in those shoes.

Trump didn't talk down to them or spew facts. He talked like "one of the guys". If he wasn't rich he'd just be the loudmouth drunk that shows up at your favorite bar to tell you how the world would change if he were in charge. And to the people in rural America, that's pretty harmless. Hell, most of them could probably call that guy Uncle. That's why Trump won and continues to draw such a crowd.

The thing is that the loudmouth drunk at the bar is usually not the truth teller. He's a drunk because he has problems and the loudmouth is a distraction. Maybe he can be entertaining but don't let him borrow your car or sleep in your guest room next to your teenage daughter's room.

Like it or not, they're not going away. So you better learn how to talk to them and bring them to the table to address their concerns or the next Trump will be the literal Anti Christ and way more popular. Thank FSM that Trump was such a lazy stupid fuck.

For me, it's not a matter of learning how to talk to them, it's a matter of waiting for the next guy to come along and gives them a story line that is more grounded and fact based so that we can have a real conversation. In the current climate, raising the bullshit flag and identifying the con is all a nonbeliever can do. Most prefer to not have the conversation at all. It's easier and the outcome is certain.

I do think allot of people got conned and allot of people close to the con man know what it is. That's why so many have quit / got fired.

 

[mowood3479]

I don't watch any of those people so there is that. Id have to guess your fine with Trump burning the constitution. By your logic all of the people that care about this watch MSM? Dude what are you smoking.

When did he burn the constitution? That seems uncalled for.
It’s a historic document for god sakes..
I wasnt big on trump before but now that I find out he is burning historical document I still don’t care ...

 

[mowood3479]

....The media becomes a convenient scapegoat.

Please go on about what an honorable and truthful media we have.
I think ur right, they’re a scapegoat and bear no responsibility for the commonly held idea that they tell mad lies

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

The majority influenced media.

Everybody here seems to think they’re the only ones with immaculate brains. Remaining pure and uninfluenced, while those who digress are puppets of the media. Trump never ever has supported the working man. He’s full of shit and the majority sees it. The media becomes a convenient scapegoat.

- Ahh - well don't take my word for it - How about Malcolm X - Noam Chomsky - and Gore Vidal? -

- do your research - and you will find out that one particular very powerful ethnic group has much, much more control over the media - than any other - then its just a case of 'joining the dots' -

 

[mowood3479]

So between the 2 of you, you know 71 million people that voted for Trump?

By doing what you are doing, you're talking down to them. You're lumping 71 million people together and labelling them as racist, homophobic, xenophobic, and stupid. There are those people within the Trump ranks. but there's not 71 million of them I can guarantee. Just like there is in the DNC. Stupid has no political association.

I know a few Trump supporters. I would say none of them are any of those things.

What Trump represented was middle finger to the top 1%, even though he is that top 1%. It was rhetoric that attracted them. And when asked is your life better today than it was 4 years ago? They all say yes. And that's what matters to them. They don't need to fact check that their life is better because they're living it! Nobody has ever given a shit about them, so they don't giver a shit about anybody else.

Saying an entire group of people don't fact check or believe in the truth is the exact reason why they voted for Trump in the first place. It's the condescending attitude of the Left that they absolutely hate and will continue to vote against, even if it is in their own best interest to vote for it.

The best way to change people's minds is to engage with them and learn what they need and want. Not tell them what they need and want. Then follow through.

This guy gets it..
Voting for trump was the best possible way we have ever had to say FUCK YOU to the ruling class.. That’s it.
Zero to do with Trump as a person.
I’m glad he made a mockery of the office, of the media, and of the deep state,

That swamp deserves All of the contempt and mockery possible... And that cats out of the bag.
Trump or no trump.. it’s not going back to the way it was before

 

[Microbeman]

- Don't you find it strange that a man that was born into great wealth and position - would be an advocate for the working man? - and would change sides from democrat to republican - just to run for President - as if he was summoned to present an opposition by other higher 'elites?' - a controlled opposition -

- and now his time has expired or not - dependant on his ability to prove that its all a fit-up - and even if he does - the media influenced majority will not accept it - which could lead to more serious unrest - once again keeping that great divide amongst the masses current and active -

-

When has he ever once, just once, advocated for the working man?