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https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/9331...o-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve

Updated at 12:24 p.m. ET

Despite calls from many for a concession this weekend, President Trump and his campaign say they are pushing on to fight the election results tooth-and-nail.

Practically speaking, that means lawsuits.

"Our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated," Trump said in a statement Saturday. "The American People are entitled to an honest election: that means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots."

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The problem is, Trump's campaign has spent much of the past week in court with little success and without presenting anything close to evidence that points to a fraudulent result.

"You can't go to court just because you don't like the vote totals," Ohio State election law professor Ned Foley said on MSNBC over the weekend. "You have to have a legal claim, and you have to have evidence to back it up. And that's just not there."

Here's a run-through of the litigation the Trump campaign has filed so far:

Pennsylvania: Extended deadlines, observers

Philadelphia may be the central location in President Trump's quest to prove the 2020 election was stolen from him.

As expected, Republican voters voted more heavily on Election Day in Pennsylvania, a critical swing state, and Democrats voted in significantly larger numbers by mail.

Because laws around the vote counting process did not adjust to that reality, it took days before it was clear that former Vice President Joe Biden had won the state.


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The Trump campaign and many Republicans, however, have seized on the time it has taken for officials to count ballots as a sign of something fraudulent happening. But the lawsuits they have filed have not borne that narrative out.

Thus far, the campaign has scored a few wins in court but none that will have an effect on the result of the state. A state court, and separately the U.S. Supreme Court, ruled that local officials must segregate some ballots in case deadlines that were extended by the secretary of state are found to be unconstitutional.

It's unclear how many ballots that will be at this point, but experts are extremely skeptical it will be anywhere close to enough to overturn Biden's current 45,000-vote lead in the state.

Separately, a state judge ruled that election observers could stand slightly closer to election officials than they were previously allowed to, but a request to stop vote counting over the issue was dismissed.

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Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro told NPR that despite Trump's rhetoric about "big" legal wins in the state, the lawsuits thus far have yielded no material changes to election processes.

"I'm not going to get into a rhetorical battle with the president ... but it's hardly a big win," Shapiro said after the court decision that allowed observers in Philadelphia to stand a few feet closer to election workers. "It has no effect on the outcome of this election."

At a press conference Monday afternoon at the Republican National Committee headquarters, a number of top Republicans announced a fresh lawsuit in Pennsylvania over what it claimed was unfair and unequal treatment of Republicans in the state's election. That litigation is ongoing.

Michigan: Unfounded claims of lack of transparency


President Trump returns to the White House from playing golf on Saturday after The Associated Press and other media outlets called the 2020 election for Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
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Similarly, in Michigan the Trump campaign has tried to allude to improprieties in a major city in a state it won in 2016, but lost this year. In Michigan's case: Detroit.

The campaign's claims have focused on an alleged lack of transparency in the vote-counting process, but in two cases, judges have not been swayed.

"This court finds that while there are assertions made by the plaintiffs that there is no evidence in support of those assertions," said Judge Timothy Kenny in denying a request to delay certification of election results.

"On this factual record, I have no basis to find that there's a substantial likelihood of success on the merits as relates to this defendant, nor am I convinced that there is a clear legal duty on behalf of anyone who is properly before this court to manage this issue," said Judge Cynthia Stephens in denying a separate request to stop the state's vote counting.

Still, the Trump campaign says it has more evidence to come regarding the elections process in Detroit. Two voters filed suit against the City of Detroit and its elections commission, alleging a number of crimes on the part of election officials. The suit includes an affidavit from an elections employee who makes a number of claims that have been disputed by city officials.

"We have only begun the process of obtaining an accurate and honest vote count," said White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany at a press conference Monday afternoon.

Arizona: Baseless Sharpie conspiracies

A rumor, which has been debunked by the Department of Homeland Security, still led to a lawsuit by the Trump campaign in Arizona.

The campaign alleged that some voters had their ballots incorrectly rejected because they used Sharpies to fill them out. It's a claim that went viral on social media, despite officials insisting it was not true.

"Don't promote disinfo! Stop spreading #SharpieGate claims," said Chris Krebs, the director of the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.

The agency debunked the claim on its Rumor Control website, which fact-checks election misinformation.

Republicans in the state dropped the Sharpie lawsuit Saturday but then filed a separate suit alleging other votes in the state were incorrectly rejected.

Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat, called the suit a "repackaging" of the Sharpie conspiracy theory, in a local TV interview.

"The claims are baseless," Hobbs said. "At this point folks are grasping at straws."

Georgia: No evidence of late ballots counted

A Georgia judge summarily dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit last week that alleged ballots received after a 7 p.m. Election Day deadline were mixed in with legitimate ballots, according to The Current, a nonprofit newsroom in Georgia that partners with NPR member station Georgia Public Broadcasting.

Republicans in the state based their allegations on testimony from a Georgia GOP poll watcher who was subsequently unable to provide any evidence.

"The court finds that there is no evidence that the ballots referenced in the petition were received after 7:00 p.m. on [Election Day], thereby making those ballots invalid," Judge James F. Bass wrote, in dismissing the case.

On Monday, Georgia's two sitting Republican senators called for the state's Republican secretary of state Brad Raffensperger to resign after alleging "too many failures in Georgia elections this year" but without mentioning specifics to support their claims, as reported by GPB's Stephen Fowler.

Raffensperger shot back.

"My job is to follow Georgia law and see to it that all legal votes, and no illegal votes, are counted properly and accurately," he said. "As secretary of state, that is my duty, and I will continue to do my duty. As a Republican, I am concerned about Republicans keeping the U.S. Senate. I recommend that Sens. Loeffler and Perdue start focusing on that."

Nevada: Rejected requests to stop machine verification, processing of mail ballots

In Nevada, another state Biden seems to have won by a fairly thin margin, Nevada Republicans filed a lawsuit that, had it been successful, would have slowed down the vote-counting process.

The Trump campaign and the Nevada Republican Party claimed that "irregularities have plagued the election" in Clark County, the state's most populous county, without providing evidence. They argued that the county should not be able to use a machine to verify signatures, but federal Judge Andrew Gordon rejected the request.

The Trump campaign also earlier sued unsuccessfully to stop the processing of mail ballots in Clark County.
 
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Justice Alito orders PA ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day be kept separate


Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has stepped in to secure the vote in Pennsylvania.

Updated: November 6, 2020 - 10:04pm

Justice Samuel Alito ordered Friday that any Pennsylvania ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day must be segregated and kept secure, and they must be counted separately.
Election officials were already supposed to be doing that with the late-arriving ballots, but now they are under a Supreme Court order to comply. According to Alito’s Order, “... neither the applicant (PA GOP) nor the Secretary has been able to verify that all boards are complying with the Secretary's guidance, which, it is alleged, is not legally binding on them."
Alito ordered the state to reply by 2 p.m. on Saturday.
 
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Justice Alito orders PA ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day be kept separate


Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito has stepped in to secure the vote in Pennsylvania.

Updated: November 6, 2020 - 10:04pm

Justice Samuel Alito ordered Friday that any Pennsylvania ballots received after 8 p.m. on Election Day must be segregated and kept secure, and they must be counted separately.
Election officials were already supposed to be doing that with the late-arriving ballots, but now they are under a Supreme Court order to comply. According to Alito’s Order, “... neither the applicant (PA GOP) nor the Secretary has been able to verify that all boards are complying with the Secretary's guidance, which, it is alleged, is not legally binding on them."
Alito ordered the state to reply by 2 p.m. on Saturday.
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Which they were already doing.
 
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ODNI: No National Security Info for Biden Until Win Confirmed

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Joe Biden addresses the media about the Trump Administration’s lawsuit to overturn the Affordable Care Act on November 10, 2020 at the Queen Theater in Wilmington, Delaware. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images)
By Sandy Fitzgerald | Wednesday, 11 November 2020 07:30 AM.

Joe Biden is not getting top-level national security information until the General Services Administration ascertains that he officially defeated President Donald Trump, the office of Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe has confirmed.
"ODNI follows the statutory direction provided in the Presidential Transition Act, which requires ascertainment of the candidate by the administrator of GSA prior to supporting a potential presidential transition," Ratcliffe's office said in a statement to NBC News Tuesday. "ODNI would not have contact with any transition team until notified by the GSA administrator."
GSA chief Emily Murphy still has not signed the office's letter of ascertainment, which has been required since the transition act was passed 60 years ago to provide information and to unlock money used in the transition process.
This means Biden is not receiving the President's Daily Brief, a compilation of intelligence reporting for the most senior officials in the government. Trump hasn't authorized its release, NBC News reported.

Biden confirmed to reporters Tuesday that he isn't getting the briefing, but he said it's not necessary at this time, as he's not the sitting president.
“Access to classified information is useful but I’m not in a position to make any decisions on these issues anyway," said Biden. "It would be nice to have it but it’s not critical."
Biden transition officials said that since he's not getting intelligence briefings, it's not clear if his top advisers are getting any classified materials, meaning there could be delays in investigations relating to security clearances. That could hinder the Senate confirmation process if Biden takes office, they commented.
David Priess, a former CIA officer and expert on intelligence briefings, told NBC News that during the hotly contested election between Al Gore and George W. Bush, then-President Bill Clinton's administration decided to give the briefings to Bush in early December, even before the election was decided in Bush's favor. Gore, as Clinton's vice-president, was already getting the president's daily briefing.
Meanwhile, the State Department is also not able to facilitate calls between Biden and the foreign leaders who are already starting to contact him until the GSA ascertains the election, according to the former vice president's team.


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Yep, even if Biden was getting those briefings like he should he wouldn't be able to do anything. The briefings are to help them get up to speed so the transition goes smoother. Trump will do anything to make that process as hard as he can. How is this good for the country. What Trump is doing is taring down our country in a fit. If he cant have it no one can. All I see is Americans being OK with taring our country apart. Since hey cat have there war the next best thing is to let the constitution burn.
 
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Yep, even if Biden was getting those briefings like he should he wouldn't be able to do anything. The briefings are to help them get up to speed so the transition goes smoother. Trump will do anything to make that process as hard as he can. How is this good for the country. What Trump is doing is taring down our country in a fit. If he cant have it no one can. All I see is Americans being OK with taring out country apart.
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triggered much?
joe is not the president elect. there are no state counts certified.
grasping for a plastic straw....
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Not every vote recorded is necessarily a valid vote

234,000 phantom voters spell trouble for Biden in Wisconsin


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234,000 registered voters—whom the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) refused to remove from the State’s voter rolls—could trigger intervention by the Courts to review Joe Biden’s win in Wisconsin by a margin of 20,540 votes.
The sorry saga that saw those 234000 voters still on the rolls on Election Day is detailed in an article headlined: “How The Wisconsin Elections Commission Destroyed Fair Elections In Wisconsin”—which alleges that in October 2019:




How The Wisconsin Elections Commission Destroyed Fair Elections In Wisconsin
”.. the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC)—the bipartisan board tasked with administering the state’s elections—indicated that it would ignore Wisconsin law by refusing to remove from the state’s voter rolls the names of 234,000 people who had moved either out of state or to a different city in Wisconsin.
Once those names are flagged by the multi-state Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC) database, Wisconsin Statute § 6.50(3) requires the WEC to “notify the elector by mailing a notice by first class mail to the elector’s registration address stating the source of the information.” If they do not reply and “apply for continuation of registration within 30 days of the date the notice is mailed, the clerk or board of election commissioners shall change the elector’s registration from eligible to ineligible status.”
For more than a year, the Wisconsin Election Commission and local election officials in the two most heavily Democratic counties in the state have done everything in their power to make a Biden win an inevitability.
The law is crystal clear: If a voter does not respond and apply for continuation within 30 days, his or her name is to be removed from the voter rolls immediately. This does not, of course, disenfranchise those voters since they are still registered to vote at their new address. It simply removes the old, defunct name and address (in effect a “phantom” voter) from the rolls.
Even if a voter is incorrectly flagged (as three to five percent may be), Wisconsin has same-day voter registration and a person wrongly removed from the rolls can simply re-register on Election Day.”
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With 99% of the vote counted—3,296,374 votes had been cast out of a total number of registered voters as at 1 November of 3,684,726. That represents an 89.46% turnout.
If the 234,000 phantom voters had been removed from the total number of registered voters at 1 November—it would represent a 95.5% turnout.
These calculations do not take into account those people who registered to vote on Election Day.
Assuming another 100,000 or 200,000 voters had registered on Election Day—then the voter turnout would have been 87.09% and 84.8% respectively.
The WEC uses the ratio of those voting to the estimated voting age population to determine the voter turnout.
The estimated voting age population as at 5 November was 4,536,417
If the 234,000 phantom voters were deducted from the estimated voting age population at 5 November then the voter turnout would be 76.60%. Turnout using this ratio was 67% in 2016; 70% in 2012; 69% in 2008; and 73% in 2004.
Given the unusually high turnouts using either scenario:

  • Votes cast to voters registered to vote on 3 November
  • Votes cast to estimated voting age population at 3 November
some of those 234,000 phantom voters would appear to have actually voted.
How many did vote can be readily ascertained from cross checking the voter roll with the list containing the 234,000 voters slated for removal—had the WEC done its job.
If they exceed 20,540 then the idea of a Biden win in Wisconsin is premature.
Not every vote recorded is necessarily a valid vote.


https://canadafreepress.com/article/234000-phantom-voters-spell-trouble-for-biden-in-wisconsin
 
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Ballots post marked by Election Day are pretty standard stuff in a lot of states.

Republicans attempting to limit legal voting says a lot about the quality of their product/positions. politicians with a popular product don’t usually want to limit support.
 
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