i think those are spider mite pred's. do they like broad mites too?
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best products for killing broad mites in veg stage?
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"Neoseiulus californicus is used for the prevention, control, and management of various spider mites. These 0.5 mm. mites are noted for their ability to actively hunt in conditions where prey is few and far between. This mite has also made a bit of a name for itself by being able to deal with some of the nearly microscopic species, like broad mites, Polyphagotarsenomus =Hemitarsonemus latus, cyclamen mites, Phtyodromus =Steneotarsonemus pallidus, tomato russet mites — preventively — Aculops lycopersici, etc. This mite is extremely similar to Neoseiulus fallacis in diet preference and on many other levels to the point of confusion at times."
Theres 3 choices to combat broad mites - this one the cheapest and most effective for my situation. I don't have a huge infestation - just the signs of a microscopic society evolving into something I don't want
"Neoseiulus californicus is used for the prevention, control, and management of various spider mites. These 0.5 mm. mites are noted for their ability to actively hunt in conditions where prey is few and far between. This mite has also made a bit of a name for itself by being able to deal with some of the nearly microscopic species, like broad mites, Polyphagotarsenomus =Hemitarsonemus latus, cyclamen mites, Phtyodromus =Steneotarsonemus pallidus, tomato russet mites — preventively — Aculops lycopersici, etc. This mite is extremely similar to Neoseiulus fallacis in diet preference and on many other levels to the point of confusion at times."
Theres 3 choices to combat broad mites - this one the cheapest and most effective for my situation. I don't have a huge infestation - just the signs of a microscopic society evolving into something I don't want
well I'm in veg - I don't have BM damage in flower. Its only 4 plants.
I heard enough about IPM Integrated Pest Management and know this is the right thing to do, chemicals are the very LAST resort when there is no other option. No risks at all with what I'm doing - just results! I'm glad Mighty Wash requires an hour of shaking before its actually all mixed up and that I realized its not what I want to do - but I don' think I can't get my $ back as I opened it so if not i'll use it as preventative with new clones that I want to get soon
i'll have pictures and shit to show people what went down for me with this course of action.
I heard enough about IPM Integrated Pest Management and know this is the right thing to do, chemicals are the very LAST resort when there is no other option. No risks at all with what I'm doing - just results! I'm glad Mighty Wash requires an hour of shaking before its actually all mixed up and that I realized its not what I want to do - but I don' think I can't get my $ back as I opened it so if not i'll use it as preventative with new clones that I want to get soon
i'll have pictures and shit to show people what went down for me with this course of action.
cannascholar
Member
I'm using three different predators at the moment, swirskii, californicus, and cumeris. Plants seem to be doing great however Avid and forbid was applied several times beforehand. I'd like to find a source of non cannabis pollen to keep the population alive. Also apparently the californicus are fiesty and will eat swirskis..
My latest and most promising weapon next to Kontos is Magus. Its a new miticide and it seems fairly hardcore because California has decided to ban it. Thanks to Raw_Dog for mentioning it.
Ideally the chemicals will sit on the shelf and gather dust because the preds, og biowar, and heat treatment should be doing the trick. They can quickly take the fun out of growing.
My latest and most promising weapon next to Kontos is Magus. Its a new miticide and it seems fairly hardcore because California has decided to ban it. Thanks to Raw_Dog for mentioning it.
Ideally the chemicals will sit on the shelf and gather dust because the preds, og biowar, and heat treatment should be doing the trick. They can quickly take the fun out of growing.
paid more for shipping than the actual predatory mites.
You could see them crawling around. I have been looking at the plants but the damage is irreversible except a few leaf blades straightening up in the past few days I don't think anything will be a good indicator of the mites working except healthy new growth.
I'm not checking today but I have it on the to do list to snip off a damaged leaf and inspect it for good and bad results.
I have great faith in natures remedy
I also had so many mites I put them around the entire property in all 4 gardens besides the canna one for me
I have pictures of everything and will post htem in time.
You could see them crawling around. I have been looking at the plants but the damage is irreversible except a few leaf blades straightening up in the past few days I don't think anything will be a good indicator of the mites working except healthy new growth.
I'm not checking today but I have it on the to do list to snip off a damaged leaf and inspect it for good and bad results.
I have great faith in natures remedy
I also had so many mites I put them around the entire property in all 4 gardens besides the canna one for me
I have pictures of everything and will post htem in time.
lovemyladys
New member
I spotted what I thought was hypoaspis miles in soil about a year ago. I've Always used tanglefoot on stalks and never noticed any damage on leaves.
My helper did not apply the tanglefoot on few plants and have now found what I thought was hypoaspis miles under leaves. Saw few crawling but was confirmed to be broad mites after spotting the eggs which are unique to broad mites.
Talked to the guys at liquid lady bug and was told BM do come from soil. Never noticed any damage when kept in soil.
My helper did not apply the tanglefoot on few plants and have now found what I thought was hypoaspis miles under leaves. Saw few crawling but was confirmed to be broad mites after spotting the eggs which are unique to broad mites.
Talked to the guys at liquid lady bug and was told BM do come from soil. Never noticed any damage when kept in soil.
Miraculous Meds
Well-known member
That depends. If you noticed them by damage which im sure is how u found them then it takes a couple to few weeks. If your in flower and there severely damaged then sorry but they wont get much better. Don't use these poisons in flower. I think avid is good for up front wiping them out then follow up with an 2nd dose or switch to forbid or some other egg killer. Clean everything, throw away all old debris. I dealt with them once and no more in the last 3 years. Read all safety info for avid and such, go as far as plan all airflow, light, and any other issues that will be all set up once your done spraying so u don't poison yourself or anything else. Suit up, use goggles and respirator, and shower and wash clothes after. Sure im missing some safety info. Just go overboard with the safety cause while I think u can do it safe, there is an inherent danger to those poisons.
Yeah, I noticed it by some odd leaf turnings a while back, went ahead and sprayed with some Forbid (didn't do anything apparently). Suddenly one plant looked like cabbage, all curled up twisty growing shoots, so I hit everything with Forbid again, then Avid the next night. All are in veg. The clone I think brought them on is the worst, the rest or not so bad. Think I will do another Avid spray 3-4 days after the last one.
Miraculous Meds
Well-known member
sounds like a good plan, that will end their cycle, just make sure to go over the top on getting rid of old plant material and super good cleaning. Cause I know from experience u don't wanna go thru this again. Got $500 worth of pesticides id be happy to never use again. lol
Bongstar420
Member
The one with 2014 over it is a good candidate for broad mite. The ones directly behind that appear to be next in line.
Just guessing
Just guessing
Psa off topic
The reason why the natural organic mite spray Gaurdian works so well is it has a (recently detected) secret ingredient. Avid. No shit, they just got busted by my favorite lab in Eugene Oregon. O G Analytical. The owner of the company even copped to it in a statement.
http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana...lags_potential_problem.html#incart_river_home
The reason why the natural organic mite spray Gaurdian works so well is it has a (recently detected) secret ingredient. Avid. No shit, they just got busted by my favorite lab in Eugene Oregon. O G Analytical. The owner of the company even copped to it in a statement.
http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana...lags_potential_problem.html#incart_river_home
Bongstar420
Member
Seems like the Cannabis industry would be the first place to find these kinds of shenanigans.
Finally, I don't see how organic spray is any more tolerable than any other kind of spray after week 3-4. I can't think of anything that wouldn't either affect harshness or cause microbe counts to be high. Don't give you money to people gaming "organic" bs....at this point, with the rules the way they are, organic is just a word people use to make more money.
Abemectin is extract of bacteria btw. So is Ivermectin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin
Isn't it funny they will prescribe Ivermectin but trace residue is "unacceptable"
So here is the lesson...if you are in a pinch and only have $40 and 1 day instead of $140 and a week, go get some heartguard, dilute to similar ppm as Avid, and spray. It will get you though the day apparently.
Finally, I don't see how organic spray is any more tolerable than any other kind of spray after week 3-4. I can't think of anything that wouldn't either affect harshness or cause microbe counts to be high. Don't give you money to people gaming "organic" bs....at this point, with the rules the way they are, organic is just a word people use to make more money.
Abemectin is extract of bacteria btw. So is Ivermectin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin
Isn't it funny they will prescribe Ivermectin but trace residue is "unacceptable"
So here is the lesson...if you are in a pinch and only have $40 and 1 day instead of $140 and a week, go get some heartguard, dilute to similar ppm as Avid, and spray. It will get you though the day apparently.
