beliefs and assumptions that are...

[southflorida]

Here is the most important thing to grasp:

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What you believe and assume to be the "primary physical reality" is nothing but a perception of an unknown experience occuring at the present moment.

This "physical stuff" exists ONLY as a perception in THIS present moment.

Fundamentally, it is not the hard stuff that you believe and assume it is.

It is simply an image served up by your mind, and it is all secondary, and in-direct.

It is NOT primary, it is NOT what is actually there.

What is there is not-known...period.

What is occuring is you are perceiving incoming data with your sense-organs, and your nerve-endings are delivering this data to your mind, where it is interpreted and turned into an image, or a sound, or a smell, or a feeling, etc, etc, etc.

it is happening (occuring) in your imagination.

in the imagination of Consciousness/Awareness, the ONLY thing that there actually "is."
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...if one does not grasp this, all they will continue to do is observe the beliefs and assumptions that their mind keeps bringing up.

 

[floralheart]

Wanna know who exposed a massive coverup??? Eric Snowden, that's who! same with Assange. And so with all these YouTube conspiracy coverup gurus still free and yacking more bullshit why isn't the govt chasing/hunting them down too???

Satanism is self concealing. Military assassinations are political PR.

One is invisible. One is intended to influence the mind of the populace.

 

[floralheart]

Your common citizen doesn't have the knowledge base to comprehend and incorporate non-terrestrial originators, interdimensional contacts, parallel reality tracks and other strange goings on. Many other strange goings on.

I think the jr. league of witchcraft, the freemasons, have grasped a fringe of the knowledge base. It's basically a political spiritual perversion of the natural law school, or terrestrial law, as I think of it, or mystery law.


Your life operates on beliefs and assumptions that are only as real as you believe they are.

I don't have the wherewithal to spell it out today, but essentially, the word government translates literally to "mind control".

Then you learn that TV is government, magazines, newspapers and music are government, the NEWS is government; anything seeking to shape and influence your mind and heart is government.

Do a little sorcery and you'll see the truth in those words; for those with the eyes to see. Or at least those with cool sunglasses.

The mind clouds the heart. Rock smashes scissors. Namaste.

 

[trichrider]

tune your antannae.

conciousness is the signal that you are alive. the signal remains after the body dies.

when you die, the sun doesn't stop coronal ejecta and the earth still follows the sun. the magnetic interaction between celestial bodies continues, the universe continues...so life only ends for the material body.

it could go badly suggesting the "conciousness" is spirit or soul since so many refute their existence, claiming there is no possibility that this be the truth.

what little we know about this energy source or power is where the ego fails. to our minds we are in control or are aware.

many people believe they can become more aware by focusing and meditating...(tuning the antennae), and this is understandable. positive thought influencing objectives.

refusing to accept the possibility of being wrong is ego and so many people want to listen to themselves talk.

true when this body dies the physical entity fades, the energy you produced along the way will nonetheless stay.

 

[floralheart]

yeah lets settle it. ego is a mythical construct invented by an old pervert. It is not real.
the only life energy is electro chemical, and comes from eating and breathing. stop either one of those 2 and the energy ceases to be created. there is no reason to create some mythical life force beyond that. Why pretend that there are things beyond what there is evidence for? It's just childish, grow up!
Truth is black and white. You cannot choose to believe what you want. There is only one truth. learn it or be labelled as a nutter for your whole life. You will be ridiculed in every serious environment out there. And the worst part is, you never get to see what is going on for yourself.
I'm done, talk about your love of unicorns and fairies, go ahead, show yourselves up.

I wouldn't call those who serve on their knees members of a serious environment. Perhaps members of a seriously fucked up environment.

Reality is a product. What you think and how you think it is a product. The question is, who's doing the manufacturing?

It feels original, it feels like you created it from within, but it was placed there for you to discover.

Most products are poisoned. Especially those that shape your current world view and my past world view.

We're all born into a board game that sucks. We're also born into the most magical and mystical realm imaginable.

 

[idiit]

JUST IN CASE I HAVEN'T ALREADY FULLY DISCREDITED MYSELF ON THIS FORUM, HERE ARE SOME POSTS I MADE ON ANOTHER FORUM ON THIS SUBJECT: .

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now for the real woo from the dark depravity of my innermost monkey mind: i believe that the human ego is the archon mind.

i believe that the number one enslavement device fostered upon man is the human ego. each of us has an ego. each one of our egos is a damn liar! the ego is our personal anti-christ. in order to be free one must eleminate our own ego as step one.

the literature states that the archon envy us; our spirituality, our "aliveness". the archons are inorganic artifical intelligence entities. they can't ever be like us. they figured this out so they went to plan B; make us like them; they implanted each and every one of us with their mind; the human ego.

think about it. did you ever confront your own personal ego and tell it that it has never done you any good and seems bent on sabotaging your life? are you aware of the spiritual turmoil and grief the human ego has manifested on your life and those of others? don juan does/did. if you read the unicus mag. article linked in the first post don juan tells how it works from his perspective.

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/skyfish.htm

Although these parasites are not human, they feed off the negative energy/emotions of humans. It is unclear when these cosmic, amoeba-like creatures first came to earth, but we know they were discovered by shamans in altered states of consciousness long ago and have recently been photographed

more on the archons:


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the archons

jll (john lash) work on the book of gnostics refers to the archons. there isn't much info on the net about them despite their influence. here are some quick links for those that care to research a little on these inorganic ai beings:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi...en_archons.htm

^lots of stuff. i haven't read many of these. this is a great reference site for all kinds of info.

http://www.unicusmagazine.com/skyfish.htm

Exposing the Evil Overlords of Earth

Posted on November 29, 2011 by mr_unicus

It is time to expose the covert controllers of mankind. I assure you this is not speculation, a hoax, or the figment of people’s imagination. These parasitic creatures are real and they need to be dealt with immediately so mankind can evolve to the next level of existence. Here is the link to my press release with photos of these covert creatures.
You can also hear me discuss this topic with George Noory on Coast to Coast.
And, you can watch me discuss this topic with Alfred Webre on Exopolitics TV.

Radiantly,
Robert M. Stanley

Quote:
John Lash - The Archons


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loCoTx99yAg

other vids:
UFOTV Presents...: The Archons - Alien Invaders From Space



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBo24sIPCOM

This series outlines the ancient powers that rule the earth known as the Archons. They are an error in the Matrix as well as being very malevolent. We have all been tricked into believing that they are all powerful and we are totally ineffectual as a species. They have manipulated us into accepting their false reality as well as discarding our own true reality and destiny. This six part video is the sum total of all my past videos. This is a no holds barred series that is both shocking and enlightening. Having said this, let me urge all viewers to keep an open mind and do their own research.

chris thomas talks of what the akashic records term "velons". it appears to me that castenada's wetiko virius, gnostic shaman archons, and the akashic record's velons are the same entity by three different name tags.

Bases 8:-Chris Thomas Velon ET Threat to Humanity Part 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zf7scVDQ1g

Bases 8:- Chris Thomas Part 2


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-RSwTihJQ0


chris thomas and jll believe that the reptilians and the greys under the archon control are archons/velons. i believe there is the data, and then there is the interpretation of the data. to my understanding from my research the archons are eds. they don't have or need physical bodies, they possess them as they choose to. the head dracos (winged white powdery scaled winged royalty of the reptilian species) worship the archons. the demi-urge is the "queen bee" of the inorganic artifical intelligence entities called archons.

the eps summon the reptilian overlords to feast on the energies emanated by the kidnapped child being traumatized via sodomy and various other torture techniques. the archons who possess the reptiles come in to feast on the child's fear, terror. the essence left in "the child vessel" is then imbibed by the eps by eating the child after the ritual is over. this archonic energy absorbed by the eps is part and parcel of their satanic purpose for these child abductions.







The Archons - Alien Invaders From Space

^posts i made on archons:

^^https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=5438215&highlight=archons#post5438215

i was intrigued by the phrasing "human ego". in a world permeated by bullshit i intuitively knee jerked the phrase.

question: why would they call it the "human ego" instead of just ego?

answer: because it's not human!

intuition is our guide to the truth.

ego has never told the truth and never will. it is mankinds biggest enemy. the archons wanted to be like us but couldn't. so they made us like them by implanting us with their ego. the human ego is an alien implant. seriously.

like i stated: deep woo woo from the dark depravity of my innermost monkey mind! think i smoke too much dope?

 

[southflorida]

like i stated: deep woo woo from the dark depravity of my innermost monkey mind! think i smoke too much dope?

just a tiny-inny-winy-bit more than you should, but hey, if you have it, why the f... not

but, more seriously, in this thread i'm trying to focus on what is primary in our moment-to-moment experience, and even alien entities penetrating our mind is a secondary event.

what is that thing that is always aware of everything?

this thing is always the same, it doesn't change with the circumstances.

when we are honest with ourselves...isn't the fact that...I am...the only thing we're always 100% sure of?

what really is this...I am?

this is the main question in this thread.

...anyone?

 

[idiit]

i believe our perceptions are severely tampered with making it very difficult for us to directly apprehend reality in an untainted way. this tampering is intentional.

the "i think, therefore i am" is a great starting point at getting to the answer you seek..

what is this " i am"?

spirit, soul, astral body, human body/human mind is the perspective i employ. the spirit is the "drop of ocean". the "ocean" is universal life emanating from "source". the soul,astral body, human organic components (body/mind) are layers of sheaths around the spirit going from subtle to gross in hierarchy. humans on this planet are in three dimensional existence. other humans exist in three dimensional as well as higher (4th, 5th, 6th....) dimensions. there are an infinite number of sentient entity races (greys, reptilians, peladians,etc...) besides humans.

the ocean is life. to know the drop is to know the ocean (microcosm/macrocosm).

there are two extra-dimensionals (tanaath and sunfire) posting on the below link with information about this perspective. neither are native humans, they are temporary incarnates in human form on 3d earth.



http://www.silverlegion.org/index.html

they have posted over 30 hours of conversations and q/a sessions on the following link:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drakebailey

^ look for the tanaath/sunfire segments.

in addition to physical dimensions going from 3d on up to 30+ d (dimensions) there are spiritual realms.a sentient entity can be on a higher physical dimension yet be low in spiritual hierarchy. sunfire and tanaath don't know much about the spiritual hierarchy. they post lots about the different physical dimensions. earth is about to go from 3d to 4d/5d. this is what the mayan prophecy and the christian rapture hubaloo is all about. (2012 stuff). this shift from 3d to 4d is a big deal and called DIMENSIONAL SHIFT. there is a ton of information on the 'net about dimensional shift. here are some links on dimensional shift:

http://www.andromedacouncil.com/

https://www.google.com/#q=dimensional+shift+2013

^ google search page from dimensional shift query.

woo woo.

 

[southflorida]

i believe our perceptions are severely tampered with making it very difficult for us to directly apprehend reality in an untainted way. this tampering is intentional.

this may be, but fundamentally, the Consciousness, from which everything originates and becomes a distinction in an experience is undisturbed, it always is...what it is. (absolutely)

what is actually occuring with our mind, body, and the world are all secondary effects, and this is not what I'm trying to point at.

our mind is actually tampered with by our culture, and if any aliens are tampering with it, maybe it is not such a bad thing.

actually, the topic of this thread is only something that can be grasped in our own direct experiences, and because of this, the only thing that counts is how each of us experiences what we experience on a moment-to-moment basis.

if our mind is tampered with, we still know that we are aware...

...that the I am is undisturbed.

what might be disturbed is the body, the mind, and experience of the world, but the awareness of these events is NOT disturbed, one iota.

...but, again, this has to be directly experienced, it is not something that can be explained to another being, which obviously makes it a tough topic to talk about, and because of this all we can do is point at it, and then go and directly experience "it."

see, what I'm getting at?

 

[Dope time]

Intellect Alone Oposes Understanding

 

[idiit]

...but, again, this has to be directly experienced, it is not something that can be explained to another being, which obviously makes it a tough topic to talk about, and because of this all we can do is point at it, and then go and directly experience "it."

see, what I'm getting at?

^^ places that words don't tell.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

and trying to prove that your answers are better than the next guy's is pointless because proof rarely exists

the poo fling is amusing though

 

[idiit]

^ yes. one of my biggest gripes with the current academic system is that they are teaching the students the questions and the answers, yet in life we need to learn to develop our own questions and find our own answers.

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

IMHO they are teaching debate. that is all.

"i argue therefore i am". makes sure the stalemate continues while we slide closer to the point of no (NOT KNOW) return

 

[southflorida]

experiencing what is "true" in our culture, seems to be unimportant.

most believe if they have a great set of beliefs and assumptions, that they will live happily after.

obviously this is not so.

not-knowing is fundamental, and this is why to experience the "truth" - we must actually "experience it" in our own, personal direct-experience.

 

[trichrider]

most people will fiddle with the tuning knob, going through the different spectrums of static till they find an interesting signal.

some look for that signal.

some find it, but cannot understand it's simplicity and therefor ignore it.

once able to interpret the signal (rememeber this is an analogy, not literal) the physical is entrained and the 'scales fall from the eyes'.

others cannot escape their ego telling them otherwise.

south is right, one must experience it.

one caveat tho', one must also be willing.

 

[southflorida]

most people will fiddle with the tuning knob, going through the different spectrums of static till they find an interesting signal.

some look for that signal.

some find it, but cannot understand it's simplicity and therefor ignore it.

once able to interpret the signal (rememeber this is an analogy, not literal) the physical is entrained and the 'scales fall from the eyes'.

others cannot escape their ego telling them otherwise.

south is right, one must experience it.

one caveat tho', one must also be willing.

one of the primary elements of fear is unwillingness, and since it is an element, basically it is fear.

it is dis-comfortable to leave one's beliefs and assumptions at the door and actually step into a direct-experience where a state of not-knowing is a natural state.

if one tries to go through the door with one's beliefs and assumptions, it won't work, because all one will experience is these beliefs and assumptions and not what is "directly" there.

fear is the reason most folks are afraid to let go of their beliefs and assumptions

but, they don't notice that because of these beliefs and assumptions they are not free, and are caught in a trap similar to a monkey that is caught because she is holding on to a fruit in a bottle with a narrow neck.

we, as humans are like that.

we, just like the monkey, are really free.

The only reason we feel trapped is because we are not making a clear connection that we are the one's holding the fruit (beliefs, assumptions), and all we have to do is let go of it.

 

[mrcreosote]

Some people feel uncomfortable with the idea that there may be no 'there' there.
They have these weird unfounded assumptions and beliefs that there just HAS to be a 'There' hiding in the bullrushes or like a prize in a box of crackerjacks.

Guess if it keeps you busy and out of trouble...or they could learn how to play a banjo or something. Dunno.
Whatever floats yer boat.

 

[ezak420]

its about becoming in-tune with peace and love in a continual commitment of experience and understanding.

Einstein said "the only source of knowledge is experience"

 

[floralheart]

its about becoming in-tune with peace and love in a continual commitment of experience and understanding.

Einstein said "the only source of knowledge is experience"

right on