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BACKCOUNTRY's 2010 pre-season preparation and workshop journal
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dazednconfused
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Good thread BC.
I set up a temporary reservoir this winter. 2 x 560 gal pools, except 1 of the pvc sides cracked so down to a single. Considering ordering another before there is an abundance of snow. This isn't a blow up kiddie pool so it will require side supports to hold up. I used those tarp grommets with adhesive stickies and tied about 6 ropes to the trees so it could stand up straight. Need to revisit so another another coat of camo can be applied.
Considering doing a permanent reservoir after all the spring work has been completed. A high volume trench will be dug and poly lining will be layed down.
I set up a temporary reservoir this winter. 2 x 560 gal pools, except 1 of the pvc sides cracked so down to a single. Considering ordering another before there is an abundance of snow. This isn't a blow up kiddie pool so it will require side supports to hold up. I used those tarp grommets with adhesive stickies and tied about 6 ropes to the trees so it could stand up straight. Need to revisit so another another coat of camo can be applied.
Considering doing a permanent reservoir after all the spring work has been completed. A high volume trench will be dug and poly lining will be layed down.
pokerman2006200
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i always love ur threads backcountry wat strains u doin for 2010
Thanks guys! I have some time off tomorrow, so I think I might go and scout the other area I'm looking at to use for 2010.
First priority is to watch for signs that humans spend time there, garbage like beer bottles and snack packages can tell a story. I'll also be looking for signs that the land is being surveyed or that timber cruisers have been through(plastic tape/flags, spray painted signs on trees).
The next thing I'd look for is signs of any flowing or sitting water, like seasonal creeks, springs, small ponds. If I find a easy source of water, I'll concentrate on finding plots nearby, so I can take advantage. If I don't find sources of water, I'll find the optimum spots and build a rain harvester near by.
I hope to find places for three Earth holes, its been years since I last scouted this area. I never considered it seriously because there was no way I could haul water this far uphill from the nearest water sources. Now I have ways of making places like this work, and 95% of the work takes place well before the season.
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After updating the Outdoor strainguide recently, I kind of thought it might be fun to fill out a report for my personal strain, OR95.
Strain/Breeder: Oregon 95, BACKCOUNTRY's dad
Harvest time: October 5
Latitude of grow: 43-44N
Location: Oregon
Average yield: 6oz
Mold?: Nope, warm/dry Autumn, and pulled 10 days earlier than norm
Potency:7/10, the high is mixed physical/head
Year of grow: 2009
Growers notes: This strain was created by my father, between 1974 and 1984 my father lived in NorCal(not far from San Fransisco), he bought bud that came from Humbolt/Mendo, Thailand, Columbia, Mexico, and Hawaii. When ever he bought a bag that was really good, he saved the seeds, and grew them out every year, adding in new strains to the mix each year. Being in the milder climate of the bay area, its actually possible that some of the tropical sativas made it into the mix, but more likely that mostly the hardiest of the Mexicans did at best, with most of the mix dominated by the Indica and Indica/Sativa skunks that were popular in Californias Emerald triangle and bay area.
Once we moved to Oregon, my father received seeds for a local commercial strain that was grown in Greenhouses here. They were short, early maturing compact Indicas, and this was the last mix in the line. For 10 years the line was inbred, selecting seed from the best females for the next crop. In 1995 we decided to name the strain Oregon 95.
It is more or less a stable line, the biggest variations involve coloration and smell. Some plants turn purple, or pink, or gold, or red in the last weeks leading up to harvest, some stay green all the way through.
Some have a smell that smells like a mellow skunk, some have a smell like pungent over ripe fruit, most are some mix of the two.
All seem to end up with a mellow, happy high. Not trippy at all really, but not mind muddling or energy sapping either. Its a good general use weed, and it grows well for me, and is well acclimated to my climate.
From a couple different OR95-
First priority is to watch for signs that humans spend time there, garbage like beer bottles and snack packages can tell a story. I'll also be looking for signs that the land is being surveyed or that timber cruisers have been through(plastic tape/flags, spray painted signs on trees).
The next thing I'd look for is signs of any flowing or sitting water, like seasonal creeks, springs, small ponds. If I find a easy source of water, I'll concentrate on finding plots nearby, so I can take advantage. If I don't find sources of water, I'll find the optimum spots and build a rain harvester near by.
I hope to find places for three Earth holes, its been years since I last scouted this area. I never considered it seriously because there was no way I could haul water this far uphill from the nearest water sources. Now I have ways of making places like this work, and 95% of the work takes place well before the season.
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After updating the Outdoor strainguide recently, I kind of thought it might be fun to fill out a report for my personal strain, OR95.
Strain/Breeder: Oregon 95, BACKCOUNTRY's dad
Harvest time: October 5
Latitude of grow: 43-44N
Location: Oregon
Average yield: 6oz
Mold?: Nope, warm/dry Autumn, and pulled 10 days earlier than norm
Potency:7/10, the high is mixed physical/head
Year of grow: 2009
Growers notes: This strain was created by my father, between 1974 and 1984 my father lived in NorCal(not far from San Fransisco), he bought bud that came from Humbolt/Mendo, Thailand, Columbia, Mexico, and Hawaii. When ever he bought a bag that was really good, he saved the seeds, and grew them out every year, adding in new strains to the mix each year. Being in the milder climate of the bay area, its actually possible that some of the tropical sativas made it into the mix, but more likely that mostly the hardiest of the Mexicans did at best, with most of the mix dominated by the Indica and Indica/Sativa skunks that were popular in Californias Emerald triangle and bay area.
Once we moved to Oregon, my father received seeds for a local commercial strain that was grown in Greenhouses here. They were short, early maturing compact Indicas, and this was the last mix in the line. For 10 years the line was inbred, selecting seed from the best females for the next crop. In 1995 we decided to name the strain Oregon 95.
It is more or less a stable line, the biggest variations involve coloration and smell. Some plants turn purple, or pink, or gold, or red in the last weeks leading up to harvest, some stay green all the way through.
Some have a smell that smells like a mellow skunk, some have a smell like pungent over ripe fruit, most are some mix of the two.
All seem to end up with a mellow, happy high. Not trippy at all really, but not mind muddling or energy sapping either. Its a good general use weed, and it grows well for me, and is well acclimated to my climate.
From a couple different OR95-
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wordtree
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you rule da woods, mon...pulling up a log for this one.
Will be doing some guerilla ops myself this upcoming year. Looking forward to scouting, prepping, and letting em rip! '09 was an indian summer for sure for these parts, hoping for more of the same this time around.
When are you looking to get em all in the ground?
Will be doing some guerilla ops myself this upcoming year. Looking forward to scouting, prepping, and letting em rip! '09 was an indian summer for sure for these parts, hoping for more of the same this time around.
When are you looking to get em all in the ground?
Cant wait to see somemore awsome work.
I'm thinking 3 OR95, since its my classic reliable strain, also I'll do a C99xOR95, and one BC God bud*
*In 2008, a friend gave a me a big clone that he got from a local med card grower. Neither the friend or the med grower had space for it. I noticed that the plant threw out a few male flowers(probably the shock from going from one grow room to another and then outside), also I had a few OR95xC99 and OR95xC99XTrainwreck males that were nearby long enough to possibly let a little pollen on her. At any rate, I found a couple dozen seeds in her buds, the father is unknown. The mother had nice buds that yielded a very mellow couchlock stone, with a unique and weird flavor/taste that was pleasing. I'm gonna plant one of the seeds in a Earth hole, and use the remaining plants to produce more seed for this new genepool.
HookaHittaH
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Damn BC those pics just blew me away...
I got out for my scouting trip yesterday. I packed up some sheet plastic, zip-ties, my compass, pipe/bud, water bottle, folding saw, and knife.
To get into the area, I had to hike from the valley floor, up a very steep ridge, from my starting point to the crest of the ridge was a 700' elevation gain in less than 1/4 mile.
Once I was at the top, my first mission was to smoke a bowl of some of the OR95 I grew in the Earth hole last summer, the pipe is the mini I use for hiking trips-
The next mission was to inspect the smaller ridge(to the west) behind the one I climbed. It was not what I expected to find(from checking sat maps on google), I'd hoped to find a Madrone tree jungle like the one I found in the first area, insted I found a near pure stand pine forest, with very little eye level cover to use, and few spots for good sunshine. After scouting this ridge, I looked behind it, nothing but a rocky plant-less area, with no cover for plants. I headed back(south-east) towards the ridge I climbed first, I connected with the top of the ridge a ways down(south) from where I climbed up originally, as I walked back up the spine of the ridge, I found some Coke cans from 2009, probably dropped by hunters who walked down from a BLM road on a ridge higher up-
As I walked north towards where I climbed the the first ridge, and past it, I started finding beer cans from a few years back, which increased as I approached the BLM at the top of the ridge. The bad thing about this road is it gives otherwise lazy people easy access to the wilderness, the good thing about this road is that it is now behind a locked gate, only a handful of people have access to this area from this direction.
At this point, I decided that I'd need to use the east face of the ridge I climbed first, nothing behind it would be useful to me. I walked a ways north and swung down the east side of the ridge, working my way south towards a area I'd noticed before.
At one point I came upon a forest of huge Douglas fir trees-
Flowing through this grove of giants was a creek! The dog layed down in the the water, despite the fact that it was no warmer than 20F at the time-
This part of the ridge faced to much north, no good spots for plants, as I headed south out of the area, I realized that there would be no possibilities of using this water nearby, darn@!
As I headed into the prime area, I was loosing light fast, and sure enough I started finding some great spots. I decided I'd better build at least one rain harvester before it got dark.
I found a natural bowl in the hill, and augmented it with a dam of loose dirt and duff-
And then my camera ran out of juice! I lined the depression with clear plastic, this time the catching part is flat on the ground going up the hill, with wood stakes carved on the spot holding it down.
I return in two weeks to build more rain harvesters, and look for actual plot sites.
To get into the area, I had to hike from the valley floor, up a very steep ridge, from my starting point to the crest of the ridge was a 700' elevation gain in less than 1/4 mile.
Once I was at the top, my first mission was to smoke a bowl of some of the OR95 I grew in the Earth hole last summer, the pipe is the mini I use for hiking trips-
The next mission was to inspect the smaller ridge(to the west) behind the one I climbed. It was not what I expected to find(from checking sat maps on google), I'd hoped to find a Madrone tree jungle like the one I found in the first area, insted I found a near pure stand pine forest, with very little eye level cover to use, and few spots for good sunshine. After scouting this ridge, I looked behind it, nothing but a rocky plant-less area, with no cover for plants. I headed back(south-east) towards the ridge I climbed first, I connected with the top of the ridge a ways down(south) from where I climbed up originally, as I walked back up the spine of the ridge, I found some Coke cans from 2009, probably dropped by hunters who walked down from a BLM road on a ridge higher up-
As I walked north towards where I climbed the the first ridge, and past it, I started finding beer cans from a few years back, which increased as I approached the BLM at the top of the ridge. The bad thing about this road is it gives otherwise lazy people easy access to the wilderness, the good thing about this road is that it is now behind a locked gate, only a handful of people have access to this area from this direction.
At this point, I decided that I'd need to use the east face of the ridge I climbed first, nothing behind it would be useful to me. I walked a ways north and swung down the east side of the ridge, working my way south towards a area I'd noticed before.
At one point I came upon a forest of huge Douglas fir trees-
Flowing through this grove of giants was a creek! The dog layed down in the the water, despite the fact that it was no warmer than 20F at the time-
This part of the ridge faced to much north, no good spots for plants, as I headed south out of the area, I realized that there would be no possibilities of using this water nearby, darn@!
As I headed into the prime area, I was loosing light fast, and sure enough I started finding some great spots. I decided I'd better build at least one rain harvester before it got dark.
I found a natural bowl in the hill, and augmented it with a dam of loose dirt and duff-
And then my camera ran out of juice! I lined the depression with clear plastic, this time the catching part is flat on the ground going up the hill, with wood stakes carved on the spot holding it down.
I return in two weeks to build more rain harvesters, and look for actual plot sites.
Hey backcountry, good to see another of your threads. I don't know if you remember me posting in your thread from last year but I thought I might share an experience I have had in the meantime. I myself am not a guerrilla grower, prefer the predictability of indoor, but I have a few friends who are. Now my climate doesn't lend itself to needing ways to capture water in most situations as I live in a very humid and wet southeastern state. However, I happened to find out about a month ago about a friend who grows who I had always suspected but never asked. He proceeded to take me out and show me some of his stands, some of which had been harvested, others were still "finishin up" as he likes to call it. He tends to grow on sandhills of scrub oak and pine, a very unforgiving environment which doesn't store water at all. In our area if you get stopped and the found some plastic tarps in your pack or a rubbermaid in your hands the ranger would hold you for the cops and let him sort it out so he has to build things with the least possible exposure. So anyways, after him showing me some of his spots he asked me if I would do him the favor of helping him prepare a site for next year, I said sure, always something to learn right? I knew that this meant I would do all the hard work as the guy is at least 20 years older than I am, but hey, I could use the work. Long story short we dug the hole and split pine "fatwood" or "fatlighter" logs to use as the walls and floors. I am not sure if you would have access to this but I assume that any highly resiny tree would have the potential to produce it. Fatwood or fatlighter takes forever to rot but he did have experience with armadillos burrowing through his holes so before we put it down he unrolled his bedroll from his pack and produced wire mesh used as a base for putting up plaster. We put this around the sides and bottom to prevent the burrowing. Threw some fatwood on for a roof and covered her back up for next season. So I guess the whole point of this is the suggestion of using wire mesh to prevent the critter damage? I guess I just had a long way of telling it. Anyways, I wish you luck on the next season and I will keep poking my head in from time to time 
how cold was it there today?
Hammerhead- Its hovering right above freezing this morning, supposed to be in the upper 30s today, and rainy! Yay!
zenoonez- What a coincidence! Check out this thread from a couple years ago, I did something very similar!- BACKCOUNTRY builds a Guerrilla Water reservoir
zenoonez- What a coincidence! Check out this thread from a couple years ago, I did something very similar!- BACKCOUNTRY builds a Guerrilla Water reservoir
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This interests me highly because I live in the same area. Thanks for writing about it. I can't hike far because of physical reasons, so I love those roads and hate new gates and don't outdoor grow. A few years back , a friend showed me a old grow spot around here that was kind of interesting. They grew in thick manzanita about 7 feet tall, trimming leaves and branches all the way up leaving only a thin canopy at the top that plenty of light could get through [south facing hill ] . The trunks that were left made perfect posts to hang the deer netting on. It was hard to get through to, even though it was close to a road and and the thin canopy of leaves on top made it look to me like it would be hard to see from the air.
Thanks for sharing your scouting trip with us, backcountry! Damn, now thats a climb, 700 ft in a quarter mile from the valley bottom to the ridge!
From time to time I ride my dirtbike out in the hills of West Virginia. Last time I went we stashed our gas cans, as always, but it was my brother that did it. We looped around and stopped at our gas cans and one had rolled down the hill! It was mine of course... Man I climbed down this steepest of inclines what seemed like forever.. Smelled gas but didn't see the can, then I finally spotted it way down there.. I thought it was the bottom of the valley... After I got to it, it was not the valley but was just stuck on a group of trees on a naturally terraced area... The can was close to empty and had not spout anymore but I saved it...
That hike to the top of the ridge where our bikes were, I'll never forget.. I'm a tough son a bitch, and those mountains boy I'll tell you they're pretty tough too!
You make me proud, backcountry.... Cannabis growing today requires such a range of techniques depending what region and stituations you have available...
From time to time I ride my dirtbike out in the hills of West Virginia. Last time I went we stashed our gas cans, as always, but it was my brother that did it. We looped around and stopped at our gas cans and one had rolled down the hill! It was mine of course... Man I climbed down this steepest of inclines what seemed like forever.. Smelled gas but didn't see the can, then I finally spotted it way down there.. I thought it was the bottom of the valley... After I got to it, it was not the valley but was just stuck on a group of trees on a naturally terraced area... The can was close to empty and had not spout anymore but I saved it...
That hike to the top of the ridge where our bikes were, I'll never forget.. I'm a tough son a bitch, and those mountains boy I'll tell you they're pretty tough too!
You make me proud, backcountry.... Cannabis growing today requires such a range of techniques depending what region and stituations you have available...
How ironic man? Jeeze. How did it work for you? When he had me build his we notched the ends of the boards so that when stacked they were more like "lincoln logs" so that they were resistant to pressure pushing them in and movement side to side. Took a little while with a camping axe but I imagine with a good camping saw it wouldn't be too hard.
You get really nice December weather, its way below freezing where I live 
i need a chair here. awesome as always.
Hello from the state of Oregon! I'm a self-providing guerrilla grower, I go to great lengths to keep my grows unconnected to me, this means hiking deep into the isolated corners of my local area to grow my bud.
This thread is meant to document my journey to the grow seasons start in spring. Feel free to ask questions, as long as it concerns cultivating Cannabis, I'm happy to help if I can.
Any ways, I'm BACKCOUNTRY, I've been posting on the boards since I joined overgrow.com in 2004, I survived OGs demise and poped up here in 2006.
As many know, my climate is extremely dry in summer, my average rainfall for May-Sept is 3.5", with most of that falling in May. Most of the work and concern in a normal season revolves around watering plants, the difference between a good harvest and a bad harvest has direct relation to how much water was provided. Under watered plants never get very large, and have small harvests.
Last season I experimented with a passive irrigation system that I call the Earth hole:
The purpose of the Earth hole is to provide totally reliable irrigation for one plant, the Earth holes I build for 2010 will all hold 21 gallons of water, and will be able to extend my visits from once or twice a week all summer watering by hand, to once every 3 weeks to refill the Earth holes reservoir.
Here is a link to my old Earth hole thread- Earth holes: A experiment in Guerrilla irrigation
Here is a link to my 2009 grow thread- Oregon Organic Guerrilla 2009, with your host BACKCOUNTRY
Based on my 2009 season, it appears I'll need 90 gallons of water for each plant. I'd like to select places to grow that are very difficult to visit, places that require log hikes from any direction. These kinds of places don't have water in the summer, even in the rainy season there is no running or sitting water to be found in these high-dry places, and I sure as heck ain't gonna haul it there on my back!
The solution to the problem is to use rain harvesters to collect the water on site. As the rain falls, it is collected by a tarp strung between trees, and aimed so the water collects in a reservoir of some kind.
My rainy season is strongest from December to February, during this period nearly 75% of my total rainfall comes. So I am getting to work building rain harvesters.
Here is a rain harvester I used last winter-
Today I took a walk to a high ridge out in the hills, the place I was nearly a mile from the nearest parking spot. Very pretty Douglas fir forests and such.
At one point I happened upon a grove of Pacific Madrone and Mazanita-
As you can see, this is a thick place, all the trees are young Madrone, some are kind of tall, but there are many holes in the canopy to allow light in. Manzanita, a type of shrub closely related to Madrone, grows in the understory, blocking clear views outside of small clearing you stand in.
A perfect place to hide some Guerrilla plants.
Today was a rare sunny day, the fog we have been under for days finally burned off. Late in the afternoon I was able to find time for my scouting trip. I mostly just anticipated scouting, so I took a compass and my camera, as a last minute thought I decided to take some sheet plastic and some zip-ties, in case the spot turned out to be good I thought I might make a crude rain harvester and get a jump on preparations!
I started by piling some rotten logs in a log cabin shape, I used my hunting knife to knock off any twigs that might poke holes in the plastic I'll lay over next-
Next I laid the single piece of plastic onto the structure, weighing it down with more pieces of log. The tail end of the piece was ziptied to two trees behind the reservoir part-
This took me 15 minutes to build, and should catch 80-100 gallons in the next month or so, enough for one plant. I carried the plastic in a small backpack(like kids take to school), it was light to carry. I'll build these anywhere I find a good spot, then I'll come through and build more permanent reservoirs to store the water through summer, straining the dirt and debris from it as I transfer the water.
Anyways, I'll be back here and there to update my progress, should be lots of posts concerning collecting and storing water, building earth holes, and getting plants ready for planting.
brilliant design. mad props.
