back from the cup

[ojd]

hey danny thanks
they already sent in and are up on the bay only 2 day auctions so they will prob go for like $5 but they are worth 10x that

for anyone thinking of buying any of my beans
i guarantee you will find some amzing things in there(document it and if your not happy with the bud il send you free seeds)
cant get beter than that

 

[titoon29]

Hi all !


Thanks for the tips for improving the crop, really interesting...

I totally agree with a long flushing time, i found out that, in soil, at least two weeks is needed, but three weeks really make the difference... a good way to evaluate your flush is to smoke a joint of freshly cut, quick dried bud... i found out that with three weeks flush, the smoke is very tasty, not disgusting at all, and even sometimes better than cured (for some sativas).. but less than three weeks gives an aftertaste which is not perfect...

ojd i m surprised by your comment on biobizz... i ve never used it, but smoked a lot of buds grown with biobizz from different grows... i found out that buds grown with biobizz have a really nice smell and bag appeal, no doubt, but i was really disappointed by the taste, which is similar from one to another strain, and it seems using top max make things even worse... but there is a good chance some strains will benefit from one specific brand, probably depending a lot on the terpen profile.. what do you think ?

i m currently using House and Garden one component, starting flowering now... as i m really into the taste, more than yield or power, i m looking for the best taste tips... i m gonna be using along with my one component some mix including humic and fulvic acids, enzyms and bacteria... i m not sure about the molasses yet, anyone noticed any difference using them ?

I hope i will be able to attend next year cup, and bring some of my samples... travelling is fun but definetly a problem when it comes to grow....

Titoon

 

[ojd]

hi titoon

i have grown alot of diderent strains in bio bizz and have found the taste to be great
i guess its the grower your trying the weed from
giving plain water for 2 weeks does not do it(thats what alot of people do)even soil and organic has salts buiding up
you need to flush large amounts of water through the pot 10l pot =10l minimum
its say in indoor bible to put 3x the amount of water through the cointainer and ive always worked on flushing alot of water through my pot
if im using pots i sit them on a bucket and flush untill the buckets full
then move on to next plant

i forgot to say i dont listen to what the botle says
i used to give it half strength
and yeah the flush really makes or breaks the bud
but i fond with a really good 2 week flush you can have really nice tasting herb but with 3 weeks you will have the best weed you have ever grown

also with bio bizz allmix you use even less than half strength nutrient
i used to buy cheap soil and mix it my self with dolomite lime and perlite and i use to use about half strength nutrient bio bizz grow bloom and top max

 

[THC123]

The best result taste wise i have had thus far is making my own all mix and only adding water.

The difference in taste was dramatic(so smooth compared to the plants that have had canna 1/2 dose once per week and that had a 3-4 week flush). And you won't even have to flush this way


But yeah if u add bio bizz or stuff like that , ur buds will have that extra swell

What do you think bout this ojd?

 

[ojd]

hi thc123
yeah making your own soil is the way forward but its not for everyone
so bio bizz allmix is the next best thing to mixing your own
already mixed with plenty of goodies on it
ive grown in bio bizz allmix soil and just given plain water all the way until the end no flush
and it tasted dam good but i prefered it beter with a flush with nutes or not
there will always be something in your soil so i say to flush anyway
maybe only a few days to a week for light mixes and own mixes

 

[Capt. Crip]

I grow in coco.... Hey,do any of you guys use perlite in your coco or just straight...I use the big chunks(coco not perlite) mixed with the3 finer coco but have been reallyu thinking about adding some next round
Good seeing you safe at home ojd..
Karma,I will give you a holler next week......
Take care all...................................CC

was that place called stonehenge or stonedhenge???Hum??

 

[ICETOKER]

I agree with ojd. I feed every other time in veg(flush with water inbetween) and in flower i give them 2 x nutes and 1 x flush with about 30-50% runoff. and just water and cannazym for 10-14 days.

I also use bio bizz but light mix(less nutes)

 

[McSnappler]

(you getting all this good stuff, Snap? )

Too fcking right man, loads of good stuff in here. Some I've heard before, some I've not, but all warrants repeating no doubt.

Possibly a bit premature to be thinking about this stuff when I've not pulled a single crop yet, but Cup or no Cup, I want the best damn tasting weed I can muster!

Big up everyone taking the time out to help us newbs.

I' started using coco a month or so ago, with Canna A+B, but have been wondering about organic coco growing. In the UK growers thread, about half way through, lovelightpower gives a nice sounding organic soil-less mix, with bone/blood etc. May well be tempted to give that a bosh in future, and just feed pure water through the grow. I like the sound of that, mixing nutes en masse is a pain in the backside, though to be fair with a consistent source of water and the A+B it's as easy as it gets for me really.. just a lazy stoner.

Out to the Capt. too - in the coco forum there is a side by side comparison thread from clone, straight coco, coco cut with perlite, coco cut with fine coco. Might be worth a look. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=108257&page=4

 

[THC123]

i also grow organic on cocos sometimes , this year i am retesting it with the firsian dew.

I think in cocos the plants grow faster and look healthier but i just like the taste of canna grown on soil better

 

[Capt. Crip]

Thanks Snappler,will check it out..............CC

 

[McSnappler]

Np.. nice one for the heads up on beans too OJD - prob got too much in the fridge already, but G13 Haze x Amnesia Haze sounds lush to me

 

[G.A.]

Hi Capt. Crip,

I use the bio Canna line.
The soil is a mixture of Coco and special soils.
I always used Bio Mix soil from a local growshop, but that was not organic, because perlite isn't organic.
I grow several years now like this with nice results in taste and smell.
I use it outdoor.....

I flush for a couple of weeks at the end of flowering.
The last week I don't give any water anymore and let them swet.. :smile:


Peace, G.A.

 

[McSnappler]

but that was not organic, because perlite isn't organic.

Perlite is an inert substance though, so presumeably has no effect whatsoever on taste?

 

[British_Bulldog]

Guys, if you feed the right amount during the grow you should only need a week of flush in soil, and 10-14 days in hydro depending on the system.

The key here is dialling the plants in to exactly what they need and not overfeeding in the first place!


Peace

 

[British_Bulldog]

Capt - with coco, I found a lot better aeration in the root zone when mixed with around 30% perlite


Also, everyone should use washed clay pebbles at the bottom of the pots, to avoid the plants sitting in water/nutes in between feeds


Peace

 

[JamieShoes]

I'm loving this thread right now... I'm 9 days from pulling my first crop (thats a lie, I'm pulling one plant later today for economic reasons) and 5 days into the flush... I wish I'd read about 3 week flushes about 2 weeks ago

So some flush questions...

I read above to flush Hydro longer than soil, is it the same for coco? (because I imagined less and initially only planned to give these 10 days)

If you use pre fed soil (manure/guano), does the flush need to be as intense or are you saying it's not even necessesary?

If you want to let the pots go dry for a week, should you start flushing with that extra week in mind? (ie: start 3 week flush 4 weeks from harvest and then let dry for 1 week, or 2 week flush@ 3 weeks from harvest and let dry for 1 week?

I want to let mine dry for a few days, but not sure whether to add that time to the total time or include it in the 8weeks of flower time..

thank you all so much for contributing these tips and tricks, it can only be a good thing. As Snap rightly says, "I've not pulled a single crop yet, but Cup or no Cup, I want the best damn tasting weed I can muster!" :smile:


cheers
j :smile:


my actual pot/medium situation:
Manure Fed Soil plants fed nothing until last 4 weeks of flower, then given half dose of House and Garden 1Comp (2-3ml)for 2 weeks before giving only pH'd water for 2 weeks. H&G Bud XL (1ml) given for 2/3 weeks up until 14 days flush was started

Coco pots were all being given Canna A+B (max 2ml) and Bud XL (1ml) for last 4 weeks until 10 days flush started... or at least that was the plan.. the reality was that I checked my run off EC and found it to be 2.5 and started giving pH'd water at 17 days from harvest.

(all doses are ml per liter)

 

[British_Bulldog]

Jamie,

Your plants can tell you the answer to your questions - if you feed them correctly in the grow, they will have everything they need, then you flush at the end.

If you've fed right, then 10 days water flushing in coco should be ample.

At the finish, they should have yellow leaves, indicating the plants have used up all the available food and there's no residue.

Because it's your first grow and you've left the flush late, you should hold them over a bucket and flush them with lots of plain water now, and then try a specialist flushing agent if you want to get more salts out.


Peace

 

[JamieShoes]

excellent, thanks :smile:

edit - actually the plants do tell me a lot themselves, I just need to get a bit better at understanding what they're telling me a little bit sooner :wink:

 

[British_Bulldog]

Ok cool Jamie, no problem


As an extra note, in full organics, no flush is needed, only if you're using chemical nutes with soil!


Peace

 

[THC123]

At the finish, they should have yellow leaves, indicating the plants have used up all the available food and there's no residue.

I guess this is not the case in full soil outdoors??

What i mean is in pots i get yellow leaves at the end , but in full soil outdoors in flowering recipe , they stay green and shiney.

thx 4 feedback interesting topic