bonghopper
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Have you tried taking cuttings from your LBH auto haze when you see preflowers? What age do plants show signs of sex? Any chance of a release date for your haze? Sounds like it would do well in Ireland
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Auto Haze hybreeds
- Thread starter La Buena Hierba
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Born Loser
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WOW!!! Very nice work. I have not seen this thread yet. Time for me to get reading.
FON
FON
Forces of Nature , originally bred by Zedhead using Mzandig AK47/LR /Skunkman Sams O Haze . Same auto hybrid as LBH just different breeders
Zed got TMV in his grow room on the F3`s but these were all from F1 & F2 stock .
Several of the plants are 750cm full auto & a couple 125cm all in 10lt pots , the 125cm are 3-4wk behind in flower . Quite smelly when handled with plenty of thricomes .
These plants are from the same seed batch LBH is trying for his own project .
FON
Forces of Nature , originally bred by Zedhead using Mzandig AK47/LR /Skunkman Sams O Haze . Same auto hybrid as LBH just different breeders
Zed got TMV in his grow room on the F3`s but these were all from F1 & F2 stock .
Several of the plants are 750cm full auto & a couple 125cm all in 10lt pots , the 125cm are 3-4wk behind in flower . Quite smelly when handled with plenty of thricomes .
These plants are from the same seed batch LBH is trying for his own project .
Another grower (minime) had them around 150cm & just about 2-3wk later in flowering grown in soil with plenty of organic compost . These do very well if they are grown on in large pots straight from the early seedling stage or soil as soon as it`s possible to put them in the ground . A lot of growers realise that any restriction on roots tend to runt autos .
little update on the seedrun and not rot/mold will be nice selection for next year guerilla
(think zedhead use male haze and auto female?and breed back too auto not?)) i only use male autoflowering ak with female haze cutting
but i breed later on back too haze and ACE thai haze male so they pritty difriend bro but what i see from the FON that they verry verry nice thanks for let me try them bro and who knows how the cross will be, i think nice
i dint use mine pure autoflowering Haze too cross with FON (i realy dint whant too breed them but i like them lol) i had some nice auto blueberry sourdiesel haze mix that i crost i think this will give more tast smelly and yieling for next year guerilla and they will finnes faster than the pure auto haze but if the cross wil be nice i will breed the LBH auto haze too the fON X sour diesel bluebeery haze mix wil be fun how too see that will go
sorry for the bad english
i dint make cuttings from mine auto haze yet but some on other forum dit it with succes
here some pictures of mother and the cutting he takes
LBH auto Asian Haze grow by Northern Grower under 24 light
LBH's autoAAH motherplant
and clones of her
That clone was taken when the mother was far into flower, like 4 weeks from finish
and the same auto asian haze cloon bit later wen grown and into flowering
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Zed`s post on page 8 of this thread .
La Buena Hierba.. Hey bro,you got some wonderful autoHaze lines coming along there. Nice to see you've got some of my genetics in the mix too. Though I am concerned whether those genetics were from the f2s or the f3s I made...
My autoHaze was bred from a fully auto female AK47/LR hybrid (bred by Mdanzig), which I pollinated with an OriginalHaze male (SkunkmanSam's stock). I send out seeds from f1, f2 and f3 lines but the f3 got hit by a virus, back in late 2007. I gave the 'headsup' (warning) on the dodgy f3s to as many people as I could as I knew some beans had been passed to other growers.
Main symptoms of the virus is the lower leaves turn brown and dying from 3 weeks into flower and also mutant leaf growth, looking a bit like insect damage - random holes in leaves and crimpled, twisted growth . This progresses up the plant until only the smaller bud leaves are remaining. This causes significant loss in yield and leaves the plant prone to further infection by inscets etc. Infected plants tend to have weaker root systems by mid-flower and end up leaning over as the main roots become soft and bendy. It seems to be very infectious through contact and also passed on by pests. All equipment must be sterelised and infected stock burned or flushed down the toilet, if any hope of clearing the virus from a grow area. Basically a totally fresh start. The possibly virus came from clones that had been brought into the growroom from being outdoors for several months, though I can't be certain how found it's way into my crops. I lost (culled as there's no cure, except perhaps cloning fresh stock from tissue culture of the meristem. This is said to be the only virus-free part. A skilled technique used by nurseries to maintain healthy stock) all my mother and father plants I had collected over the previous 4 years, and several seeds lines which had become infected.. It was a sad time..
OldtimersHaze is a strain I had been wanting to breed into my autoHaze project before the latest generation . I stil have seeds form the earlier generations so can restart when practical to do so. I'm moving home in a couple of weeks so can't do anything at the moment.
I am very keen to get my autoHaze project going again, it is a wonderful smoke, quite unique. It still had quite a variety in phenos as I had only got as far as making f4s, the f4 were to be the Forces of Nature (FON) strain once I had inbred further to stabilise certain traits. I will restart the with project with the f2s I have saved as I know these are virus free. I found about 25% auto phenos in the f2s, and about 80% or so in the f3s.
Do you know what generation the autoHaze genetics of mine are, the ones you have been working with..?
The first 5 pics on the first page of this thread look like typical phenotypes from my stock. Looking a little shabby, possibly down to grow conditions. I know many phenos displayed freaky growth. I am unsure whether all the phenos like this were caused by the virus or just genetic/enviro expression. Some growers had those shabby phenos and said they had no virus probs in any other/subsequent crops. But a friend who grew out some infected autoHaze outdoors ended up infecting his indoor crop, probably through touch and using same tools for pruning both crops.
Let me know if you have any questions.. Not meaning to worry you but it's better to know these things! I sincerely hope all your stock is fine. All other pics I'v seen on this thread look healthy so you've probably nothing to worry about.
Peace,
Zed
La Buena Hierba.. Hey bro,you got some wonderful autoHaze lines coming along there. Nice to see you've got some of my genetics in the mix too. Though I am concerned whether those genetics were from the f2s or the f3s I made...
My autoHaze was bred from a fully auto female AK47/LR hybrid (bred by Mdanzig), which I pollinated with an OriginalHaze male (SkunkmanSam's stock). I send out seeds from f1, f2 and f3 lines but the f3 got hit by a virus, back in late 2007. I gave the 'headsup' (warning) on the dodgy f3s to as many people as I could as I knew some beans had been passed to other growers.
Main symptoms of the virus is the lower leaves turn brown and dying from 3 weeks into flower and also mutant leaf growth, looking a bit like insect damage - random holes in leaves and crimpled, twisted growth . This progresses up the plant until only the smaller bud leaves are remaining. This causes significant loss in yield and leaves the plant prone to further infection by inscets etc. Infected plants tend to have weaker root systems by mid-flower and end up leaning over as the main roots become soft and bendy. It seems to be very infectious through contact and also passed on by pests. All equipment must be sterelised and infected stock burned or flushed down the toilet, if any hope of clearing the virus from a grow area. Basically a totally fresh start. The possibly virus came from clones that had been brought into the growroom from being outdoors for several months, though I can't be certain how found it's way into my crops. I lost (culled as there's no cure, except perhaps cloning fresh stock from tissue culture of the meristem. This is said to be the only virus-free part. A skilled technique used by nurseries to maintain healthy stock) all my mother and father plants I had collected over the previous 4 years, and several seeds lines which had become infected.. It was a sad time..
OldtimersHaze is a strain I had been wanting to breed into my autoHaze project before the latest generation . I stil have seeds form the earlier generations so can restart when practical to do so. I'm moving home in a couple of weeks so can't do anything at the moment.
I am very keen to get my autoHaze project going again, it is a wonderful smoke, quite unique. It still had quite a variety in phenos as I had only got as far as making f4s, the f4 were to be the Forces of Nature (FON) strain once I had inbred further to stabilise certain traits. I will restart the with project with the f2s I have saved as I know these are virus free. I found about 25% auto phenos in the f2s, and about 80% or so in the f3s.
Do you know what generation the autoHaze genetics of mine are, the ones you have been working with..?
The first 5 pics on the first page of this thread look like typical phenotypes from my stock. Looking a little shabby, possibly down to grow conditions. I know many phenos displayed freaky growth. I am unsure whether all the phenos like this were caused by the virus or just genetic/enviro expression. Some growers had those shabby phenos and said they had no virus probs in any other/subsequent crops. But a friend who grew out some infected autoHaze outdoors ended up infecting his indoor crop, probably through touch and using same tools for pruning both crops.
Let me know if you have any questions.. Not meaning to worry you but it's better to know these things! I sincerely hope all your stock is fine. All other pics I'v seen on this thread look healthy so you've probably nothing to worry about.
Peace,
Zed
bro thanks for the read back (like you see my reaply i dint use his auto haze becorse of virus)
i see he use auto female AK47/LR hybrid x haze,
MJBadger you had find with the work on the FON aslo virus?
and SkunkmanSam's skunk haze have sometimes hermies i read do you find that too? ore whas it SkunkmanSam's thaihaze thar hermie sometimes?
MJBadger i have still some of zedhead fon crosses if you intrested let me know
i see he use auto female AK47/LR hybrid x haze,
MJBadger you had find with the work on the FON aslo virus?
and SkunkmanSam's skunk haze have sometimes hermies i read do you find that too? ore whas it SkunkmanSam's thaihaze thar hermie sometimes?
MJBadger i have still some of zedhead fon crosses if you intrested let me know
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Sorry Bro , do not understand your Q . I have had no problems with virus & if any ever shows up I know it`s not come from Zed`s original F1 & F2 .
Tobacco Mosaic Virus appears to be a real bad un , thankfully it never seems to appear in any outdoor grown/seeded stock .
oke sorry bro you know my bad english hard for me too explane asking corect
i know you tolt me that it dint come from that stock
i know you tolt me that it dint come from that stock
they are already in the free world some of the LBH's autoflower Haze strains are for sale on seedbey
ore look onmine LBH seeds section here on ICmag https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65808
peace LBH
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i live in Amsterdam edit wil try too find new place too sell them
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bonghopper
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Is there much variation in height and bushyness with the sour diesel haze you got for sale at the mo? What % of 'sour diesel haze' phenos have you been getting?
bong
bong
the strain auto SDH (short pheno) what for sale tru flash seeds have indeed some variation in hight i try too make with the sdh short type a shorter flowering auto SDH with mixing a bit of dieselryder in
the normale auto SDH (that for sale too now online) is al the same hight and type (stable)
as you can see here and al sour diesel haze in type and smoke
the normale auto SDH (that for sale too now online) is al the same hight and type (stable)
as you can see here and al sour diesel haze in type and smoke
pietje puck
Member
seedgrow semi/auto haze LBH
seedgrow semi/auto haze LBH
Here a few pic,s from the semi/auto haze from you.
Grown outdoor at lat 53 north.
They where to long in roottraines,thats wy They not grow bigger.
But Its a verry healty plant,and not sensitieve to mould.
seedgrow semi/auto haze LBH
Here a few pic,s from the semi/auto haze from you.
Grown outdoor at lat 53 north.
They where to long in roottraines,thats wy They not grow bigger.
But Its a verry healty plant,and not sensitieve to mould.
Thanks for scharing my friend
here some pictures of mine new autoflowering LBH's Blue Lines from testers that i whane share with you guy's
'LBH's autoflowering Blue Cobra Haze
'LBH's autoflowering Blue Cobra Haze
