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Auto Haze hybreeds

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Ch@ppers

I saw that LBH's auto-Haze was Flying Dutchmen's orig. haze x auto AK 47,which haze did you use and which auto if I may ask Ch@ppers??:prettyplease:

Long story short (gotta take the dog for a walk and it's just stopped raining) I grew out Zeds virus-riddled FON a few years ago, luckily I didn't have any other plants to contaminate and the cleanup (with bleach) was fairly painless.

The small amount of smokeable bud (I was apprehensive about smoking it) was fantastic! Loved it!

When I found out that Zed had destroyed all his plants/seeds in a virus induced lockdown, my heart sank and I immediately started planning my own version of the FON project.

I checked out various seedbanks versions of Original Haze and was about to buy a pack when I remembered that I know someone who grows only Haze, has done for years and won't grow anything else.

The guys awesome, late 50's, beardy, permanently stoned and stubborn as hell, won't even consider growing a modern hybrid.

Turns out this guy is sitting on exactly what I want/need. He's been growing the same haze clone since the late 70's...takes clones each year, saves some for next year and flowers the others, great stuff!

He still keeps his mother plants under old fashioned fluorescents!

Reckons he picked up the seeds in Amsterdam in the late 70's and that's all he's ever needed. The vigour has taken a hit with the repeated cloning but the taste and high is perfect. He says they were from Sacred Seeds (So probably Original Haze) so that was all I needed to hear. He let me have a clone which I put under 12/12 right away.

I had some LowLife' Auto AK47 pollen in storage, perfect match so a dab here and a dab there and the project was on!

The f1 gen was a predictable mix of the Haze & AK47 but with much more (hybrid) vigour than the Haze clone. The f2's showed the expected extreme variation. The best ones were chosen for the next gen. (I've got 2 seperate lines from this generation)

The f3 generation (of one line) is what I grew last year and was the first fully auto generation and now the f4 generation is looking just about finished.

I make it sound dead easy but the amount of plants I grew in the f2 generation to find the right parents was incredible!

I'll get some more pics soon, the growth rate is fantastic...they're huge!

Ch@ppers

Edit: And then last year I bump into LBH and he's growing the same thing! So here we are!
 

La Buena Hierba

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indeed Ch@ppers we grows te same way (female Haze x male ak47)
only i already back crosst it too the tfd Haze cut/kloon so only 1/4 auto ak47 (F4 now).
and im now also crosst thise too Oldtimers thaiHaze (male) (now in F2no auto jet)
and other strong Haze;s
but as you sey its not easy lots of grows and times

only i think ZED's FON Haze are male Haze X female autoflowering (auto AK47x lowryder)?



peace
 

20/4

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@Ch@ppers , Damn man, your haze plant interests me like no other Auto plant has before, it has an amazing story behind her. Its amazing you brought a plant from the 70s to today and turned her into an auto. I cant wait to see more pictures! Post lots!

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DIRT DIGGLER

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Good to see ya back Ch@ppers.
as usual your work is very impressive and inspiring.
I'm looking forward to seeing more pic's...do you plan on releasing any of those beans for purchase???? cuz I'm in need of some good auto haze pollen.
 

MJBadger

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only i think ZED's FON Haze are male Haze X female autoflowering (auto AK47x lowryder)?

correct AK47/LR x O Haze , i`m growing his F1 & F2 this year & at this moment only finding auto on the smaller sativa type plants in both generations all around 3ft (900mm) pictures on minimes thread .

Stay green .
 
:lurk: Amazing plants and an Amazing effort. There are alot of auto haters, but there are more lovers, thanks for taking us along on your ride.
 

La Buena Hierba

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thanks for the info
are you planning too cross them too you own Haze?
can be nice coffering alzide's haze male side and female.
like a dith with crossing my auto haze too OThaze/thai male
 
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Ch@ppers

correct AK47/LR x O Haze , i`m growing his F1 & F2 this year & at this moment only finding auto on the smaller sativa type plants in both generations all around 3ft (900mm) pictures on minimes thread .

Stay green .

No sign of the virus??

Ch@ppers
 

MJBadger

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No sign of the virus??

There won`t be , it only developed in F3 & 4 upwards . minime has not got it in his seedruns he`s been doing & he`s up to F6 or 7 i think , somehow he`s eliminated the virus from his stock destroying any that showed the virus from the F3 .
I was hoping for a decent male for my sativa pheno autos , if there not pollinated soon i`ll lose the chance to seed them . Those are around 9oomm with a few more just short of flower at 1.2mt (4ft) . The more indica type ones are going to be late flowerers as they are still growing at heights between 5ft 1.450mt & 5ft-8in 1.8mt or thereabouts . My problem this year has been too many female , 20 seeds popped , 18fem & 1 male .


Stay green .
 

numide

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Hi LBH

Good job with this Auto Haze, haze buds in july is awesome :tiphat:

Have a nice summer
 

Stdane

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Long story short (gotta take the dog for a walk and it's just stopped raining) I grew out Zeds virus-riddled FON a few years ago, luckily I didn't have any other plants to contaminate and the cleanup (with bleach) was fairly painless.

The small amount of smokeable bud (I was apprehensive about smoking it) was fantastic! Loved it!

When I found out that Zed had destroyed all his plants/seeds in a virus induced lockdown, my heart sank and I immediately started planning my own version of the FON project.

I checked out various seedbanks versions of Original Haze and was about to buy a pack when I remembered that I know someone who grows only Haze, has done for years and won't grow anything else.

The guys awesome, late 50's, beardy, permanently stoned and stubborn as hell, won't even consider growing a modern hybrid.

Turns out this guy is sitting on exactly what I want/need. He's been growing the same haze clone since the late 70's...takes clones each year, saves some for next year and flowers the others, great stuff!

He still keeps his mother plants under old fashioned fluorescents!

Reckons he picked up the seeds in Amsterdam in the late 70's and that's all he's ever needed. The vigour has taken a hit with the repeated cloning but the taste and high is perfect. He says they were from Sacred Seeds (So probably Original Haze) so that was all I needed to hear. He let me have a clone which I put under 12/12 right away.

I had some LowLife' Auto AK47 pollen in storage, perfect match so a dab here and a dab there and the project was on!

The f1 gen was a predictable mix of the Haze & AK47 but with much more (hybrid) vigour than the Haze clone. The f2's showed the expected extreme variation. The best ones were chosen for the next gen. (I've got 2 seperate lines from this generation)

The f3 generation (of one line) is what I grew last year and was the first fully auto generation and now the f4 generation is looking just about finished.

I make it sound dead easy but the amount of plants I grew in the f2 generation to find the right parents was incredible!

I'll get some more pics soon, the growth rate is fantastic...they're huge!

Ch@ppers

Edit: And then last year I bump into LBH and he's growing the same thing! So here we are!

Nice info and what a story,thanks fer sharing Ch@ppers:wave:
 
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Ch@ppers

only i already back crosst it too the tfd Haze cut/kloon so only 1/4 auto ak47 (F4 now)

Yeah I don't like back-crossing, especially to clones that I used to make the cross, I think it leads to too many potentially unhealthy inbred issues.

I'd rather "back-cross" into a different female grown from a different seed, then you're "back-line-crossing" instead of reverse in-breeding, if that makes sense?

I considered doing something like this but there's no point in trying to fix something that obviously is not broken.

Ch@ppers
 
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Ch@ppers

There won`t be , it only developed in F3 & 4 upwards . minime has not got it in his seedruns he`s been doing & he`s up to F6 or 7 i think , somehow he`s eliminated the virus from his stock destroying any that showed the virus from the F3

Interesting.

Although he's eliminated it in his seed stock by destroying any signs of the virus, I bet it's still there and will show up in the F2+ generation if a cross is made.

Ch@ppers
 
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Ch@ppers

Here's some new pics...

Same plants as before (Auto Haze) but the day the I took the last pictures, I potted them up from 3l pots to 10l pots.

Check out the difference an extra 7litres and 13 days makes...

7th July 2010
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20th July 20120
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In 13 days she's gone from approximately 9 or 10 inches to 27 inches!! (69cm)

7th July 2010
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20th July 2010
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From approximately 8 or 9 inches to 25 inches!! 64cm)

Holy shit!

Ch@ppers
 

20/4

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Wow chappers! Greatjob on that haze man, thats a thing of beauty! Would love to have one of these hazes running in a perpetual garden.

20/4:tiphat:
 

MJBadger

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Although he's eliminated it in his seed stock by destroying any signs of the virus, I bet it's still there and will show up in the F2+ generation if a cross is made
Sorry ch@ppers looks like i made a mistake . minime has bred from F1 & F2 from the original seed stock for a few years & also got an auto Love Potion /auto haze x as well . For some reason i thought he had used F3 as well but apparently not

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=170727 post 11 i think .
Mine are really coming on as well , looks like all autos love a 10lt or bigger .

Stay green .
 
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Ch@ppers

looks like all autos love a 10lt or bigger

They absolutely do! Well, these new sativa dominant autos do, earlier generations of autos like Lowryder, Lowryder#2 etc don't seem to benefit from the extra rootspace.

Ch@ppers
 
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