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[anoydas 666]

Canberra legal but not with commonwealth?

 

[Donald Mallard]

looks like your going to have some beauties there also fronk ,
nice work man ...

 

[Fronk]

Thanks Donald and looks like it anoydas.
Same as US I guess.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Thanks Donald and looks like it anoydas.
Same as US I guess.

i wish it was the same as the us,
but its a pathetic attempt at it so far ,
many amendments need to be done for it to work properly ,


they know how to make laws , but this one was made very poorly without proper thought or planning ,


also dont expect a federal cop , of which there are many in the act , to uphold a law that is not a federal law ...

 

[Fronk]

i wish it was the same as the us,
but its a pathetic attempt at it so far ,
many amendments need to be done for it to work properly ,


they know how to make laws , but this one was made very poorly without proper thought or planning ,


also dont expect a federal cop , of which there are many in the act , to uphold a law that is not a federal law ...

Ok thanks Donald.
I am not very well informed.
Hopefully something good can come out of it.

 

[Donald Mallard]

we can only hope future attempts are better fronk ,
but its a start , just a poorly done one ,, lol ..

 

[Donald Mallard]

Australian Capital Territory - As of today, 31 January 2020, it’s legal to smoke a joint in your lounge room in Canberra. Possessing up to 50 grams for personal use is absolutely nothing to worry about. And you can grow up to two plants in your backyard if you live in the ACT. But, you can’t sell your own stash, nor can you give it to anyone else. Cannabis advocates across the nation are lauding ACT Labor MLA Michael Pettersson and the steps he took to turn an illegal and for the most part innocuous, plant – that around 10% of the population uses within a 12 month period – into a lawful substance for recreational use. And while there are still questions around the supply side remaining outlawed, as well as federal laws, which still maintain that possession is illegal – which was how cannabis legalisation initially transpired in the US – one thing is certain, there’s a massive crack in the prohibitionist armour ...
Australian HEMP Party president Michael Balderstone has long been the bedrock of cannabis activism in Australia. From his seat in the HEMP Embassy in Nimbin, he’s been spruiking benefits of the plant for decades now. Sydney Criminal Lawyers spoke to Mr Balderstone about what could occur in this country now cannabis can be used recreationally in at least one jurisdiction, why he believes it was outlawed in the first place and how greater use of the Cannabis sativa plant could benefit the environment ... Today, personal possession and use of cannabis, as well as cultivation of up to two plants in the capital territory is legal. While this is a very limited form of legalisation, in it doesn’t address the issue of supply, it’s definitely a step. Michael, what are your thoughts on this development? Generally, we’re so happy about it, even if it is really limited. It’s a bit like a suit with holes in it.
Even the seed isn’t legal, so I’m not sure how people are going to grow a couple of plants. But, it’s definitely a step in the right direction. Fifty grams is a good amount. Two plants or four plants in a household is a good start. We’re all hoping the feds will leave it alone. And people are going to realise it’s no big deal ... Michael, you’ve been at the frontline of cannabis activism in Australia for around three decades. How do you expect things to develop with cannabis from today onwards? The pressure is on now, especially with what’s happening in America, Canada and Europe, where laws are changing. At some point, Australia has to get involved ... we have such resistance here. The pHARMaceutical industry in particular ... And the reefer madness propaganda is hard to shift. A lot of people who have no experience with cannabis are still very scared of it: their kids might go mad, people feel bad. There is so much nonsense still around. So, education remains key.

 

[Donald Mallard]

so there u go ,
even the seed is still illegal ,
but you can grow 2 plants , with what im not sure , haha ..

 

[Fronk]

Thanks for the info Donald.
Much appreciated.

 

[Cakeboy]

Yeah won’t be moving to the A C T anytime soon haha

 

[@hempy]

The act law reform is a great first step the plant numbers are 2 plants per person but 4 plants per house hold yes far from perfect but a great start.
The act labor party had to tread carefully the Greens tried to kill the bill by sending it to an inquiry the act greens leader is a mental health doctor.

No activists in Australia including the hemp party publicly supported the Bill from Michael Pattersson and the act Labor party.
They could not set up retail seed or weed sales as territory's dont have the same power under the constitution as states. Michael wanted to allow grower co ops like they have in Spain so people could trade seed for free but the inquiry hurt the bill.In a year we may see co ops n other reforms in the act.

 

[@hempy]

i wish it was the same as the us,
but its a pathetic attempt at it so far ,
many amendments need to be done for it to work properly ,


they know how to make laws , but this one was made very poorly without proper thought or planning ,


also dont expect a federal cop , of which there are many in the act , to uphold a law that is not a federal law ...

States and territory's have full control of there drug acts and policing under the constitution but the act uses the AFP to do the territory's policing that means they follow the laws of the act goverment and law they make when policing the act.

 

[Donald Mallard]

States and territory's have full control of there drug acts and policing under the constitution but the act uses the AFP to do the territory's policing that means they follow the laws of the act goverment and law they make when policing the act.

so you are saying we can trust the feds to stick to the guidelines of the new law that has been passed??



gotta say i wouldnt want to be putting it to the test ,
specially not with old dutton behind the feds ,
i trust that guy as far as i can throw a piano ...

 

[anoydas 666]

well I tried throwing a piano n I couldn't lift the fucker, now Dutton I would love to throw that bastard.

 

[Donald Mallard]

well I tried throwing a piano n I couldn't lift the fucker, now Dutton I would love to throw that bastard.

if you throw him down the stairs , ill wait at the bottom and toss him back up , as many times as you like noydy ,,

he will love it , and so will all the country , hehehe ..

 

[anoydas 666]

we could maybe reshapen him into a set of stairs lol.

 

[Donald Mallard]

Australia's chief medical officer does not support the legislation of cannabis in the ACT, saying more evidence is required about its impact on health. The territory became the first Australian jurisdiction on Friday to 'legalise' ... in small amounts for personal use. Canberrans will also be able to cultivate up to two plants. The law is not supported by the feral government, although it is not seeking to overturn the legislation. Health Monster Hunt said, "We don't support it, but it's a matter for the ACT". Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy said he supported the feral government's position ... "I think cannabis has a medicinal role and the evidence suggests we need much more data" Professor Murphy said. "It needs a lot of evidence about its role in health, and that's being done under a proper medicinal access". It comes amid continued confusion about how police officers deal with people caught ... Technically, cannabis is still considered a controlled substance in the federal criminal code, which comes with far steeper penalties than those previously in force in the ACT. ACT government has maintained the 'legislation' passed last year will provide Canberrans with a defence against those laws. But federal Attorney-General Christian Porter said his legal advice had determined the defence wouldn't apply and the ACT's cannabis laws "had not done what they the ACT government think it does". Mr Porter has also made it clear he expects Commonwealth law to be enforced. Prime Mobster ScuM also said he expected feral law enforcement agencies to enforce the law, while noting he supported the rights of states to make their own policies. The ACT is a territory.

 

[Donald Mallard]

we could maybe reshapen him into a set of stairs lol.

perfect ,
so can be down trodden like he has done to others ,
the evil fucker ,
must say i hate that man with a passion ,
id love to let the manus island refugees loose on him and see what they do ,

he would deserve every bit of it ,


he imprisioned a blind disabled person for 10 years ,
evil man that enjoys punishing people who cant defend themselves ..

 

[anoydas 666]

well he was a top cop I think, look good with a swastika on his forehead,

 

[@hempy]

so you are saying we can trust the feds to stick to the guidelines of the new law that has been passed??



gotta say i wouldnt want to be putting it to the test ,
specially not with old dutton behind the feds ,
i trust that guy as far as i can throw a piano ...

The constitution of Australia is the law every one in power follows and worth a read.