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armstrong stripped of world titles

lost in a sea

Lifer
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just saw this on the news,, really shitty,, when it started i thought yeah doping bastard but i didnt think it was being masterminded to destroy the guy.. correction tour de france titles..

BREAKING NEWS: Lance Armstrong
to be STRIPPED of seven Tour de France titles and banned for life as he stops fight against doping charges



  • Armstrong is considered one of the greatest cyclists in history -- now that legacy is at stake
  • US Anti-Doping Agency is likely to view his move as an admission of guilt
  • Armstrong maintains he is innocent and did not use blood doping
  • Won seven Tour de France titles between 1999 and 2005
Lance Armstrong will be stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and banned for life from cycling -- the sport that rose to popularity in the United States after his extraordinary success between 1999 and 2005, it was revealed on Thursday.

The announcement from the US Anti-Doping Agency effectively destroys his legacy as one of the greatest cyclists in history and rubs a black smudge on a sports hero who was one of the most prominent athletes in America just a few years ago.
The USADA acted within an hour of Armstrong's announcement that he would stop fighting charges that he used blood doping to illegitimately enhance his performance.
Despite the action, Armstrong maintains his innocence and called the USADA's case a 'witch hunt.'


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Done: Lance Armstrong's decision is likely to be viewed as an admission of guilt by the US Anti-Doping Agency and could result in a lifetime ban from cycling

Armstrong, who retired last year, declined to enter arbitration -- his last option -- because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years. He has consistently pointed to the hundreds of drug tests that he has passed as proof he was clean.
'There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now,' Armstrong said in a statement sent to The Associated Press. He called the USADA investigation an 'unconstitutional witch hunt.'
'I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999,' he said.


'The toll this has taken on my family and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today -- finished with this nonsense.'
USADA will almost certainly treat Armstrong's decision as an admission of guilt, and hang the label of drug cheat on an athlete who was a hero to thousands for overcoming life-threatening testicular cancer and for his foundation's support for cancer research.
The agency can impose a lifetime ban and recommend Armstrong be stripped of his titles. That would put the question in the hands of the International Cycling Union, which has disputed USADA's authority to pursue the investigation and Tour de France officials, who have had a prickly relationship with Armstrong over the years.

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'Innocent': Armstrong still claims he did not use performance enhancing drugs and says the charges against him are 'unconstitutional'



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Extraordinary: Armstrong's seven straight Tour de France titles led to a surge in the interest in cycling in America and made him an sports icon

Armstrong insisted his decision is not an admission of drug use, but a refusal to enter an arbitration process he believes is improper and unfair to athletes facing charges.
'USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France titles,' he said.

'I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours.'
USADA maintains that Armstrong has used banned substances as far back as 1996, including the blood-booster EPO and steroids as well as blood transfusions - all to boost his performance.
The 40-year-old Armstrong walked away from the sport in 2011 without being charged following a two-year federal criminal investigation into many of the same accusations he faces from USADA. The federal probe was closed in February, but USADA announced in June it had evidence Armstrong used banned substances and methods -- and encouraged their use by teammates. The agency also said it had blood tests from 2009 and 2010 that were 'fully consistent' with blood doping.
Included in USADA's evidence were emails written by Armstrong's former US Postal Service teammate Floyd Landis, who was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title after a positive drug test. Landis' emails to a USA Cycling official detailed allegations of a complex doping program on the team.
USADA also said it had 10 former Armstrong teammates ready to testify against him. Other than suggesting they include Landis and Tyler Hamilton, both of whom have admitted to doping offenses, the agency has refused to say who they are or specifically what they would say.
'There is zero physical evidence to support (the) outlandish and heinous claims. The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of (doping) controls I have passed with flying colors,' Armstrong said.
Armstrong sued USADA in Austin, where he lives, in an attempt to block the case and was supported by the UCI, the sport's governing body. A judge threw out the case on Monday, siding with USADA despite questioning the agency's pursuit of Armstrong in his retirement.
'USADA's conduct raises serious questions about whether its real interest in charging Armstrong is to combat doping, or if it is acting according to less noble motives,' such as politics or publicity, US District Judge Sam Sparks wrote.
Now the ultra-competitive Armstrong has done something virtually unthinkable for him: He has quit before a fight is over.
'Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances. I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities,' Armstrong said.
Armstrong could have pressed his innocence in USADA's arbitration process, but the cyclist has said he believes most people have already made up their minds about whether he's a fraud or a persecuted hero.
It's a stunning move for an athlete who built his reputation on not only beating cancer, but forcing himself through grueling offseason workouts no one else could match, then crushing his rivals in the Alps and the Pyrenees.
Although he had already been crowned a world champion and won individual stages at the Tour de France, Armstrong was still relatively unknown in the U.S. until he won the epic race for the first time in 1999. It was the ultimate comeback tale: When diagnosed with cancer, doctors had given him less than a 50 percent chance of survival before surgery and brutal cycles of chemotherapy saved his life.
Armstrong's riveting victories, his work for cancer awareness and his gossip-page romances with rocker Sheryl Crow, fashion designer Tory Burch and actress Kate Hudson made him a figure who transcended sports.
His dominance of the Tour de France elevated the sport's popularity in America to unprecedented levels. His story and success helped sell millions of the "Livestrong" plastic yellow wrist bracelets, and enabled him to enlist lawmakers and global policymakers to promote cancer awareness and research. His Lance Armstrong Foundation has raised nearly $500 million since its founding in 1997.
Created in 2000, USADA is recognized by Congress as the official anti-doping agency for Olympic sports in the United States. Its investigators joined US agents during the federal probe, and USADA chief executive Travis Tygart had dismissed Armstrong's lawsuit as an attempt at 'concealing the truth.' He said the agency is motivated by one goal - exposing cheaters in sport.
Others close to Armstrong were caught up in the charges: Johan Bruyneel, the coach of Armstrong's teams, and three members of the medical staff and a consultant were also charged. Bruyneel is taking his case to arbitration, while two medical team staffers and consulting doctor Michele Ferrari didn't formally contest the charges and were issued lifetime ban by USADA. Ferrari later said he was innocent.
In a sport rife with cheaters, Armstrong has been under constant suspicion since the 1990s from those who refused to believe he was a clean rider winning cycling's premier event against a field of doped-up competition.
He had tense public disputes with USADA, the World Anti-Doping Agency, some former teammates and assistants and even Greg LeMond, the first American to win the Tour de France.
Through it all, Armstrong vigorously denied any and all hints, rumors and direct accusations he was cheating. He had the blazing personality, celebrity and personal wealth needed to fight back with legal and public relations battles to clear his name - and he did, time after time.
Armstrong won his first Tour at a time when doping scandals had rocked the race. He was leading the race when a trace amount of a banned anti-inflammatory corticosteroid was found in his urine; cycling officials said he was authorized to use a small amount of a cream to treat saddle sores.
After Armstrong's second victory in 2000, French judicial officials investigated his Postal Service team for drug use. That investigation ended with no charges, but the allegations kept coming.
Armstrong was criticized for his relationship with Ferrari, who was banned by Italian authorities over doping charges in 2002. Former personal and team assistants accused Armstrong of having steroids in an apartment in Spain and disposing of syringes that were used for injections.
In 2004, a Dallas-based promotions company initially refused to pay him a $5 million bonus for winning his sixth Tour de France because it wanted to investigate allegations raised by media in Europe. Testimony in that case included former teammate Frankie Andreu and his wife, Betsy, saying Armstrong told doctors during his 1996 cancer treatments that he had taken a cornucopia of steroids and performance-enhancing drugs.
Two books published in Europe, 'LA Confidential' and 'LA Official,' also raised doping allegations and, in 2005, French magazine L'Equipe reported that retested urine samples from the 1999 Tour showed EPO use.
Armstrong fought every accusation with denials and, in some cases, lawsuits against the European media outlets that reported them.
But he showed signs that he was tiring of the never-ending questions. Armstrong retired (for the first time) in 2005 and almost immediately considered a comeback before deciding to stay on the sidelines, in part, because he didn't want to keep answering doping questions.
'I'm sick of this,' Armstrong said in 2005. 'Sitting here today, dealing with all this stuff again, knowing if I were to go back, there's no way I could get a fair shake - on the roadside, in doping control, or the labs.'
But three years later, Armstrong was 36 and itching to ride again. He came back to finish third in the 2009 Tour de France.
Armstrong raced in the Tour again in 2010, under the cloud of the federal criminal investigation. Early last year, he quit the sport for good, but made a brief return as a triathlete until the USADA investigation shut him down.
During his sworn testimony in the dispute over the $5 million bonus, Armstrong said he wouldn't take performance enhancing drugs because he had too much to lose.
'(The) faith of all the cancer survivors around the world. Everything I do off the bike would go away, too,' Armstrong said then.

'And don't think for a second I don't understand that. It's not about money for me. Everything. It's also about the faith that people have put in me over the years. So all of that would be erased.'

taken from the dailymail.co.uk

doing to much good work for charity ? the classic hero downfall media bs ?
 

negative37dBA

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Absolute BS. Be proud France be real proud. Oh yea when was the last time a French bastard won the tour?
Lance is a fing Hero in my eyes...always will be.
 

lost in a sea

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lol you dont have to blame french people,, though being british what you said was pretty funny to me.. french bastard :biglaugh:

the people didnt do anything its the fat cats that run the show.. and they probably arent really french even if they have french names just bankers spawn internationalists,, the like you see running most boards, bodies and associations worldwide..
 

smoooth

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The guy is a freaking legend. I don't see this changing peoples minds about him. In fact it will probably get a bunch of people all riled up in his defense.
 

rives

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It's a crock of shit. He's probably the most thoroughly tested guy in history, passed every test, and over 10 years later they are pulling this crap. If he was doping, he sure as hell was good at it, and the only thing that I've seen that they've come up with are some weasel words like "results are consistent with...." - bullshit, is it there or not? To me it's kind of like Nascar - if they get away with cheating under the noses of every kind of inspection that the governing body can think of, I find it kind of admirable. Fuck 'em.
 
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Alfred

I don't believe he could be a cheat, like he said, he has too much too lose, but i have thought that of others too....

Do they then go on to check if the second place getter was cheat also? Or do they avoid an investigation?
I think if you were given the title then that should be final.

I think Armstrong's decision to just walk away rather than fight, actually seems like something a tired innocent man would do, rather than suggest he is guilty.
 

Storm Shadow

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http://www.steroid.com/EPO.php



EPO

(erythropoietin)

Erythropoietin (EPO) gained notoriety in 1998 when a bunch of cyclists in the Tour de France got caught in possession of it.
EPO increases RBC in the blood. This will basically raise your energy levels (Cancer. 2003 Sep 1;98(5):1072-9), and thus will improve recovery, etc... A50 was developed for a very similar purpose as EPO, and I suspect that a lot of the muscle enhancing effects/potency of A50 (increased muscle fullness, etc...) can be attributed to the much of same mechanisms which are at work in EPO. Its worth noting that EPO increases protein synthesis, just like A50 as well. Primarily, though, its effect is to increase RBCs.

Having more RBCs, thus having more oxygen delivered to muscle tissues is directly associated with a substantial improvement in athletic performance, i.e speed, endurance, strength, etc...(Sports Med. 2003;33(3):187-212.). EPO is associated with improved bodyweight, exercise capacity, oxygen uptake, respiration, whole body metabolism and energy efficiency (Semin Oncol. 2002 Jun;29(3 Suppl 8):69-74) In addition, cognitive function (learning, etc...)is also improved with EPO(Clin Breast Cancer. 2002 Dec;3 Suppl 3:S116-20).
Ok... so how much do you take? Id say youll need about 8,000-10,000IU for 2 weeks. Thats it. You take it all at once over 2 weeks (maybe a little over 1,000IU or so per day for 14 days) and then thats it. Then, sometime in week 3, youll start feeling the results...which will last...for 3-6 months! Yeah, you read that right.
Watch your BP, and dont let it get out of hand, because that could mean your hematocrit is getting too high... and remember to keep well hydrated to avoid any possible issues with clotting & keep some aspirin on hand just in case you find that you need to thin your blood out a bit.
 

Wiggs Dannyboy

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I'm sorry to all the Lance fans posting here...but i can't imagine him "giving in" if the governing body didn't have some very serious evidence against him. Here is what probably happened: Governing body- "Lance...we have gathered evidence that is indisputable that you engaged in blood doping, we are prepared to release our evidence to the world media tomorrow unless you immediately retire and accept the removal of all your Tour De France titles without legal defense"; Lance....what is this evidence (Lance listens...), Hmmm, well,........OK."

Armstrong was so freakin dominant during his era that the possibility he was doing something illegal had to be more likely than if things had been more typically competitive. Well, if he was doing something illegal, then the possibility if him getting busted was always out there. My guess is that he had figured out a way to add a competitive advantage early on in his career, decided to take the risk, and was lucky enough to not get caught until now. But now his luck ran out.

Unless the above is true, I can't imagine how the hell he would give up everything he has worked his ass off for so easily. Just doesn't make sense.
 

astartes

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EPO doesn't magically equate to better performances. It simply allows the body to recover more rapidly from intense training. It's the increased intensity of the workload that allows for the better performance. As SS pointed out, mini-cycling is the fad among athletes. Coupled with the fact that the vast majority of testing is done during competitions (ie out of the training phase), it's no wonder that he hasn't tested positive. Marion Jones never tested positive either. Dopers will always be steps ahead of the testers. Considering Lance was dominant over a slew of convicted dopers for such a long period, his denials doesn't sit well with me. Perhaps he's clean, but there is certainly enough circumstantial evidence over a long period for me to question it.

Yes, the French have been on quite the witch hunt for Lance all the same.

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Slim Pickens

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At the end of the day,the question that is central to this discussion is: did he fail a test for banned substances? If he never failed a test for a banned substance,then how the hell can anybody strip him of anything?Where is the evidence that he did anything wrong?

This is such utter bullshit.If the man never failed a test (out of the 100's he took),then how can he be punished?I would get tired of the BS too.I don't blame him for telling the Anti Doping agency to f***off.

Now,if they were to have found that he used illegal or banned substances,then that would be a different matter.
 
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TribalSeeds

I dont know if he was doping, he probably was, I dont care. What I do know (even though I know nothing about the sport) is that other people were doping. If none of those fuckers could beat him, wtf?
Its like baseball, who cares? Do we really think NFL players are clean? LOL
 

Scottish Research

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He dropped his appeal because the USADA has no authority to strip him of his titles.

For a variety of reasons a lot of people involved do not like him; this is part of his problem.

I stopped watching the tour a few years ago because it seemed that every winner invariable was accused of doping or tested positive .

This year I forgot about it because it was not in the news. Lance made the Tour and the sport relevant in the USA.

R.Fortune
 

Scottish Research

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EPO doesn't magically equate to better performances. It simply allows the body to recover more rapidly from intense training. It's the increased intensity of the workload that allows for the better performance. As SS pointed out, mini-cycling is the fad among athletes. Coupled with the fact that the vast majority of testing is done during competitions (ie out of the training phase), it's no wonder that he hasn't tested positive. Marion Jones never tested positive either. Dopers will always be steps ahead of the testers. Considering Lance was dominant over a slew of convicted dopers for such a long period, his denials doesn't sit well with me. Perhaps he's clean, but there is certainly enough circumstantial evidence over a long period for me to question it.

Yes, the French have been on quite the witch hunt for Lance all the same.

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Lance WAS tested all of the time. Year round. You should inform yourself or refrain from commenting.


R.Fortune
 

StRa

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legalize doping please!!!!!!ahahahha

everybody involved with the doctor Michele Ferrari are for sure EPO users.........

the last case at olimpics is Schwazer and the doc was Ferrari!!!
 

Sundance

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I have raced against Lance when he was all of 15 or 16 in a bi-athlon in Palm Springs, California

This was before Lance was recruited by the great Eddie B. to cycling

Lance was up against some of the great names in Triathlon - Kenny Sousa, Scott Tinley ... and others who were all older and stronger

I was mid pack ... could see the helicopters and lead runners after several miles ... and these guys - all natural, gifted, amazing athletes were light years ahead of everyone

I think Lance did win that race - and I vividly remember ... everyone ... including the press and magazines ... were all very, very impressed with Lance back then ... we all became great fans

Lance is an incredibly gifted, naturally superior athlete

He has been tested for drugs thousands of times - never, ever tested positive

floyd landis and tyler hamilton - got caught cheating ... they are incredible assholes ... " of bad character " ... and everything they say is bullshit

FUCK the USADA - they are quite late in all this ... and they are over reaching in an effort to destroy - its also personal for a prosecuting / persecuting member of the USADA - thats clear for everyone to see

Enough is enough

Lance is the man ... and I am a huge, huge fan

Sundance
 

astartes

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Lance WAS tested all of the time. Year round. You should inform yourself or refrain from commenting.


R.Fortune

I never said he wasn't tested out of competition, just that the majority of the testing was done during the competition phase. Lance was tested a bit less than 500 times in his 20 year career. That's coming from him. That works out to an average of less than 2 tests a month. The majority of testing, according to professional cyclists and the ICU, was during competition phases, although dates of athletes' tests aren't released by the ICU, WADA, IOC nor USADA. Out of competition testing started to ramp up in 2000, eight years into his career, albeit only a year or two into his Tour de France win streak. This happened after the Festina team was caught with a trunkload of EPO, HgH and testosterone at the 98 Tour. A test for EPO wasn't even designed until 2000.

The average life of a red blood cell is three months. A full cycle (two weeks) of EPO will provide training benefit for 3 months. Considering the competitive season in road cycling is 6-7 months long, an athlete would need to do the full dose method 2-3 times a year. The half-life of the five different variants of EPO vary drastically. It also depends on the delivery route. Subcutaneous injections were favored in the 90's as it was more of a slow-release delivery compared to IV micro-dosing in the 2000s. Blood transfusions and masking agents were also employed in the 90s and early 2000s with the mini-cycling technique. Clearly all this required a very skilled doctor or team to keep on top of dosing schedules/amounts.

After the 2000 EPO test was unveiled, cyclists switched to IV micro-dosing of EPO. The goal was to spread out the doses in such a manner to have all the testing parameters (retic, metabolites, off score, etc.) only show slightly elevated levels, but not enough to trigger a positive result. Jorg Jaksche, a convicted PED user in cycling, had his EPO micro-doses timed down to the point of taking them before bed and cleared by the time he woke up. Biological passports, which are designed to create a baseline of the testing parameters, were only introduced in 2007. This was to try and combat the new micro-dosing strategies.

Hell, Transdermal testosterone patches are cleared from the body overnight as well. They're widely know in the cycling community to be used by a number of athletes during the Tour. It's also rumored that Landis had a one too many beers during the tour and forgot to take the testosterone patch off his ball sack (seriously) overnight and subsequently tested positive the following day. Drug testing is reactionary by nature. Before a drug test is even designed, athletes with money are on to the next delivery system or PED. This comes from former cyclists caught using PEDs and team doctors responsible for the programs.

I enjoy endurance sports and have been following the issue of doping quite closely in both cycling and running.

Once again, I'm not saying Lance did take PEDs, but there's enough there, as well as plenty of wiggle room with the testing phases and refinement of EPO doping protocols in relation to testing advancements, that makes me have my suspicions.

It's been a pleasure not refraining from the thread, but rather informing you.:tiphat:

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Sundance

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" Rumor " ... " suspicions " ... " personal opinions " ... " circumstantial evidence " are all bullshit ... and nowhere near enough "proof " to legally or morally destroy anyone

The USADA has nothing on Lance

The ICI is very seriously .... and very publicly - questioning the character of the USADA ... challenging its findings ... and its actions ... as should the Tour de France ... the world courts ... and cycling fans the world over

The USADA should NOT get away with this bullshit

Here is some more bullshit from the USADA's star witness

Published August 24, 2012
| Associated Press

SAN DIEGO – Cyclist Floyd Landis says he has reached an agreement with federal prosecutors over allegations that he fraudulently solicited donations for a defense fund he set up to fight doping charges.
Court documents show Landis is scheduled to appear before a federal judge Friday morning for a "deferred prosecution" hearing.
Landis tells ESPN.com that at the hearing he will agree to repay all the donors within three years, and prosecutors will agree not to pursue charges. The Floyd Fairness Fund exceeded $1 million.
ESPN says the document Landis will sign says that he raised money under false pretenses by saying he was innocent of doping. He later admitted that he did use performance-enhancing drugs.
Landis was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title.


Clearly Floyd is a fucking asshole
 

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