They are part of the problem, and will push themselves or others selling infected crap.
Are there any reputable clone vendors in USA??????????
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So no one has any clean clones. Everyone is dirty ?
I just went and looked at their web site and they seem to have Godfather OG. Any info on where they get their cuts because they also have GG4, which I lost to mites a few years back.
I have never grown Godfather OG before but it reputation is well known. I just know it all depends on the pheno/cut they have. Not much info on the web site.
No . But I've called them before and got quality Info so I would say do the same. Key lime pie, super lemon haze, grape ape I got from them and they were all on point and legit.
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I agree 100% with this statement. The nurseries cannot operate free of pests and disease, it is just not possible. My advice to anyone with a small personal grow is to avoid clones from the outside world. Grow everything from seed in your own space. Once you let that bad shit in it is almost impossible to get rid of. Easiest and best way top keep your grow disease free is to avoid bringing plants with problems into your grow. You have to have a specific area for quarantine, treatment, and aftercare. It's just not worth it. I buy clones often and there is something on every plant I ever bought no matter where it came from. It's a shitty part of this business. I have an 8 gallon bucket that I use to completely submerge incoming clones in for a decontamination bath, pot, roots, and all. That's still not enough unfortunately. It's a tough job keeping your grow safe from attackers.
This is the most solid advise that you can get.
My 30 years of dealing with multiple different growers every business day and hearing their experiences and difficulties with getting a consistent crop out tells me this.
I also recommend not having any random house plants on the premises just out of caution of possible contamination.
I have had it happen, had to almost start over from mites.
Some growers, myself included, dont have the space to grow out 20-30 plants looking for a good pheno. Also in my experience, I am hobby grower, those famous pheons only come around 1 in a 10,000.
GG4 for one, was a once in a lifetime pheno. If thats not true then why do we hear everyone talking about it and arguing wether you have the "real" Josey cut? There are a lot of very good growers on here that get their phenos by gifting or trading with others. You can't swing a stick without hitting a thread by a well know grower on this site who is growing a cut they were gifted or traded for.
I have grown with seeds for 30 years but all my good cuts came from purchasing them. I dont have the skill set, or room to do a proper pheno hunt.
On top of that if you try and ask someone for a special cut , thats also very much frowned upon. I totally understand because I dont share my good fishing spots with anyone either. Its the find your own mentality. I have no issues with this thats why I have only asked one grower about a cut and he said, " no". Thats was just a few years ago and I respected his answer. Never asked again and been on IC since 2005.
Sooooo, where does that leave someone looking for that special cut thats talked about over and over again on these boards. No ones going to gift or trade you for one. The one accepted way is to buy it from someone who has taken the time to find and collect these special phenos. I say go ahead and purchase them from a "reputable clone vendor" just as the the thread name states.
If you iosolate your purchased cut from your main garden you dont have to worry , as much, about spreading infected cuts.
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I bought all the stuff to do it. 2 ways, nodal and apical meristem. First way low chance of cleaning and 3 to 6 months. Second method need to be surgeon under microscope dissecting apical meristem to the point of somethind about size of spider mite. That take 6 months to a year.
Tried first method on one of the dozens of clones bought from several vendors, of which all had fusarium. Took top node hoping to be far from lower infection, and sterilized in bleach solution for required time and used a product that was supposed to help. In 3 days was covered in white mold.
Bill graham is the guy helping cannabis growers.
Could not agree more, and had to check that I did not write it. I am old. If 20 and lifetime ahead of me and dozens of acres in legal state, might try to win the seed mega million lottery. I want to start with something that has won awards, and have exact clone.
It is plain and simple greed that is issue with sellers, unless conspiracy to ruin gardens so people buy corporate weed. Quarantine lab, and growing in rockwool cubes, not flood and draining and using solution over and over again which spreads disease.
Biggest spreader is aeroclloners. Fusarium needs damage to get in, like the gaping hole in bottom of cutting ( have wondered if sealing the hole would help) .
Spider mites are one thing, but the borg is another. If people say spider mites are simple to get rid of, they are talking ones picked up in their yard. The ones that have survived a hundred generations in warehouse grows and immune to everything (had some immune to no pest strips which heard killed a hamster in large room with some ventilation). With them shutting down and several rounds of bug bombs weeks apart, and leaving lights on and maintaining 70F or higher for months is only way to recover. If no light or low temps can hibernate. Otherwise 20 day life cycle.
I reached out twice on this forum asking about seed or cut, was denied both times. I also understand the mentality..
But then it all changed. I found my Holy Grail, the steain I dreamed about holding one day.. which was tightly held for 30 years. Then it got out and offered by a reputable and respected clone distributor.
From that day forward, I never asked for another cut once I offered it to an online buddy. It came back 10 fold.. I was accepted into a circle who held and traded the sought after cuts.
These days I run those cuts once or twice, think im about to start some seed iv been wanting to try.. only to gather another few cuts.
My point, if you have something to offer.. you will eventually be sought out yourself putting you in position to try some others.
This is really not that hard. You don't need to have anything "to offer". If you go around forums begging for strangers to send you clones, of course you're not gonna get anything. Nobody respects beggars. Just make genuine friends online and mantain those relationships, the way you maintain relationships with your friends in real life. Befriend people because you like them, not because they have what you want. What's with the hurry. It's just a matter of time before you meet someone who has the clones or seeds you want.
I am in discord, whatsapp and telegram groups with growers I've met in forums over the years. We share seeds, clones, growing equipment and whatever is needed. Some of them are clone nerds and maintain a lot of famous clones. Some of them became friends in real life. In these kind of groups you're never more than 2-3 degrees of separation away from someone who has what you are looking for. There's really no need to deal with clone selling grifters.
edit - especially if you live somewhere where weed is legal.
I am in discord, whatsapp and telegram groups with growers I've met in forums over the years. We share seeds, clones, growing equipment and whatever is needed. Some of them are clone nerds and maintain a lot of famous clones. Some of them became friends in real life. In these kind of groups you're never more than 2-3 degrees of separation away from someone who has what you are looking for. There's really no need to deal with clone selling grifters.
edit - especially if you live somewhere where weed is legal.
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That is a major issue. Why a lot of the best growers left this site, was when they made a major change to interface. Used to have 2 dozens friends, and when you logged on was a list, showing who was currently on and would chat. So many left, and those that did not leave rarely visit. I used to spend several hours a day on here, instead of facebook. Now go weeks without even a quick look here.
