are my plants dying?

[Guest]

Those babies almost drowned! The trick to watering pot plants is to let them get to the point where they are almost dry and then water them well till run off comes out of the bottom of the container. An easy way to check is to lift the container when it gets light give her a drink.As far as nutes go, I'd make sure that they are over the overwatering problem (new growing tips looking green and healthy) and then start them on a third to a quarter dilute nutes to start off with. Be careful with nutes and never exceed recomended doses, and it's wise to start on a very dilute formula especially when usin MG potting soil. Actually seeing you are using fertilized soil I would wait another week or so before adding any peter's or whatever. The soil should hold all the nutes that you need during this stage of growth. I really think you should let them recover fully before using additional ferts.

 

[pieceofmyheart]

I totally agree with Rudedude. Just relax, breathe......give em a rest. Let them heal.

 

[Vaguerant]

Yep, overwatering for sure. I know, because I was a new grower myself starting last December, and I was using MG soil too. I overwatered and had problems like you're seeing now. Not quite as bad, but still the same. Seedlings aren't gonna suck the nutes outta MG soil in less than a month. Let them dry out, man.

 

[sproutco]

Look at his roots everbody. He took the time to post a picture of them. Go back now and look. They are white as anything. Even showing really cotton-like branches coming off of them.

 

[sproutco]

I put an arrow on the purple coloration.

Anybody thinking these seedlings don't need ferts explain the purple coloring...

(We are a community so I don't mean to offend anybody. We are banding together to grow our own. Feel free to voice your opinions... )

 

[sproutco]

If they don't need ferts then how long do we wait till applying some? I love you Pomh. Shhhhhhh! Don't tell anyone. I think we got a clear cut case of phosphorus deficiency.

 

[pieceofmyheart]

hhahahaha you are too cute sprout

I say you wait a while, I don't know how long but at least a while. I am very used to MG now and how it works. I think they need to heal from the stress they have been through, thats all.

 

[Vaguerant]

I agree with POMH, but...

Is it possible there's some ph problem causing some nute lockout in addition to overwatering? I dunno, just throwing some ideas out there. Anybody?

 

[pieceofmyheart]

He is on city water and letting it sit out 24 hours before watering so probably not.

 

[sproutco]

He is on city water and letting it sit out 24 hours before watering so probably not.

City water will have a ph of 7 or more to prevent corrosion of pipes. High ph = phosphorus deficiency in soilless mixes

 

[Guest]

Have you tried an emergency flush? Are the edges of the leaves crispy dry?

What I do when I burn plants with ferts is just wash the roots with tap water through the top of the pot and drain it about 8-10 times in a row to remove the buildup of fertalizer, some people dont and wont agree with this but if it is fert burn your plants will react posatively within 36hrs and for sure if there burned a 20-20-20 fert will do the kill job.

 

[Guest]

emergency flush

emergency flush

hi sticky i have had some problems too.so i gave them a flush with 6.3 water.and plants are a bit better just waiting till totally dry so i can give nutrients with next watering as they are yellowing up a bit.all the best alza...

 

[stickyickyicky]

UPDATE.

UPDATE.

plants are still yellow-ish. new growth on the plants is mostly light green and some darker green. i cut off the dead leaves a while back and they seem to be getting better but still are tiny. the pic shows that they are still only about 2 inches tall and the leaves still are not getting bigger. i waited till they were totally dry for a few days before i gave them just a small amount of water. the pic with the tape measure was the plant with the most damage.

SIDE NOTE: I was at walmart and was going to pick up some ferts... AND ALL THE FUCKING CHRISTMAS SHIT WAS ALL OVER THE OUTDOOR AREA!!!

 

[sproutco]

SIDE NOTE: I was at walmart and was going to pick up some ferts... AND ALL THE FUCKING CHRISTMAS SHIT WAS ALL OVER THE OUTDOOR AREA!!!

But Sticky. What if I am wrong about your plants needing a dose of fertilizer? You did not mention that you were using probably high ph city water until Pomh said something. Are you going to go for it and fert them lightly? LOL. Why don't you try just one seedling and see what reaction you get.

 

[stickyickyicky]

that was what i was thinking of also. lightly fert 1 plant and if it died or got worse i could blame you and call you mean names like (assorted swear words). kidding!!!! but yeah i am gonna grab some i guess at HD or Blows and give it a try. do they have PH tesing stuff at HD or Blows? may i need to test my water first. any whoo of to class. catch up with all u later on.

thanks everyone sticky

 

[Nape]

My seedlings were having similar probs. In soilless peat, Bark, Sand, Vermiculite and Perlite. At 3 weeks they were still very small and slight yellowing. Tested the runoff and it was 7.6 OUCH. I have always watered with RO 6.0 PH 50 PPM. I fed them 550 PPM GH Floro Grow, Micro, Bloom. 1 Week later 1050 PPM same GH with added Epsom Salts. Looking much better today.

Before Ferts







After 2 feedings in 10 days





A bit of a Mutant?

 

[pieceofmyheart]

You can get ph test strips in the pet department of any chain store thing. They are paper strips. But I'm gonna tell ya, with the soil you are using, the ph would have to be so far off to affect those plants. Probably not a concern.

 

[stickyickyicky]

came home from shcool to this... leaves turning white??? ferts tomorrow!

should i buy some store bought water so i know that i am getting some good ph balance ?

 

[pieceofmyheart]

Damn honey, I am really stumped then.

 

[sproutco]

I put an arrow on what appears to be more purple coloring. Click on it to enlarge


I am pretty sure this is phosphorus deficiency. High ph can bring this deficiency on so that is something to consider. Really the best thing is to be doing is lightly fertilizing with every watering. This lowers the ph because the ferts are acidic. You should adjust your fert water after mixing to about ph 6 using an acid or base to be precise in your feeding. Plain water like your tap water could be used but IMO I would adjust the ph down some. This is really a stupid option.

At first, leaves are deeper green than normal. Severe stunting occurs. Then lower leaves may develop a purple pigment. All lower leaves then become uniformly chlorotic and finally necrotic. These symptoms progress up the plant.