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40degsouth

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Hi everyone, l hope you’re all well,
here’s an update of the (Blackdog X Golden Tiger) bx1 winter trial, about five weeks on, under a skylight.
These plants have been subjected to extremely low light conditions, about three direct hours a day when the sun’s out, water logging and over crowding. On the whole I’m very happy with plant health as can be seen by the cotyledons. Although they have been sheltered from direct inclement conditions such as rain, wind and frost they have been quite cold with soil temperatures below 10 degrees C.
You can see from the photos that some have really stretched for light, early on, fallen over and kept growing; these plants will be the first to be culled. You may also be able to see that some are greener than others signifying that particular plants ability to efficiently and effectively photosynthesise in low light and metabolise nutrients with wet feet and cold conditions, I’ll be keeping a particularly close eye on these.
Even although the leaf structures are very similar and displaying positive attributes, I’m expecting the more sativa leaners to start to stretch hard in the next few weeks as they go into flower. I will also be looking for purpling of the leaves and stems as they approach senescence, a bit of a giveaway for my desired pheno of the Blackdog mother. She also grows extremely vigorously in cold conditions so the purpling isn’t a sign of phosphorus deficiency when soil temperatures are below 10 degrees C.
So selection is a bit of a juggling act between vigour, in cold conditions, with the right amount of stretch along with plant health in adverse conditions.
Cheers,
40.
 

Great outdoors

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Hi everyone, l hope you’re all well,
here’s an update of the (Blackdog X Golden Tiger) bx1 winter trial, about five weeks on, under a skylight.
These plants have been subjected to extremely low light conditions, about three direct hours a day when the sun’s out, water logging and over crowding. On the whole I’m very happy with plant health as can be seen by the cotyledons. Although they have been sheltered from direct inclement conditions such as rain, wind and frost they have been quite cold with soil temperatures below 10 degrees C.
You can see from the photos that some have really stretched for light, early on, fallen over and kept growing; these plants will be the first to be culled. You may also be able to see that some are greener than others signifying that particular plants ability to efficiently and effectively photosynthesise in low light and metabolise nutrients with wet feet and cold conditions, I’ll be keeping a particularly close eye on these.
Even although the leaf structures are very similar and displaying positive attributes, I’m expecting the more sativa leaners to start to stretch hard in the next few weeks as they go into flower. I will also be looking for purpling of the leaves and stems as they approach senescence, a bit of a giveaway for my desired pheno of the Blackdog mother. She also grows extremely vigorously in cold conditions so the purpling isn’t a sign of phosphorus deficiency when soil temperatures are below 10 degrees C.
So selection is a bit of a juggling act between vigour, in cold conditions, with the right amount of stretch along with plant health in adverse conditions.
Cheers,
40.

Those plants look impressively healthy for those soil temps 👍
 

star crash

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It’s a cool little set up I can appreciate it because I personally try to go as low tech as possible
 

TychoMonolyth

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I put out my crop and got sad because I didn't have any more to do. I still didn't have any in my yard yet (yay) so I started a few Nebulis Kush.

I made jam/hon female seeds last year and just pulled out the plants by the roots when I finished scraping the seeds off them, and put them in my fire pit.

I went out to plant the kush yesterday by my shed and damn if some seeds from last year didn't survive my spring brush burn, and germinate. Lol. So I stuck one of the kush right in the center of the pit.

This is by far the latest I ever put some out. If I can quote a post by Julian "it's not the size of the plant, it's the size of the number of plants" lol
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40degsouth

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Hi Great outdoors, :wave:
I’m over the moon with the health of the plants and the overall uniformity although I think we can all see the differences in the canopy also. Of course l can only try to recreate and capture the magnificence of the original work done by Jesse Dodd, aka Bio Vortex through careful selection and testing.
My lightbulb moment came after listening to a podcast with Dan Pomerantz, Ganja Rebel, Mean Gene and Bio Vortex in which, Gene said that he uses sativa lines with indicas in order to easily identify and breed out the undesirable traits in a few generations. I believe the Blackdog seeds offered by HSO are from Jesse’s 2012 selection and are truely outstanding at my latitude and all microclimates I’ve exposed them to.
And thank you Star crash, :whee: l do find this approach about as low tech as you can get but still extremely effective in its ability to assess individual lines or plants for the breeding objectives, l mentioned in the original post, without manipulating environmental factors to much.
Once the plants have been culled down to five or ten, they’ll be put outside, in the original pots, for further testing of over and under watering, ability to perform without nutrients, reveg etc, etc.
Cheers,
40.
 

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I put out my crop and got sad because I didn't have any more to do. I still didn't have any in my yard yet (yay) so I started a few Nebulis Kush.

I made jam/hon female seeds last year and just pulled out the plants by the roots when I finished scraping the seeds off them, and put them in my fire pit.

I went out to plant the kush yesterday by my shed and damn if some seeds from last year didn't survive my spring brush burn, and germinate. Lol. So I stuck one of the kush right in the center of the pit.

This is by far the latest I ever put some out. If I can quote a post by Julian "it's not the size of the plant, it's the size of the number of plants" lol

Always found it to be amazing how cannabis is such a survivor , I’ve had seeds go through blasting tubes that came out growing in the compost
 

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one of my ''buckets in a bog'' spots, with mostly autos, but took some pics of some of the ultra early love potion girls there. i will be lst them soon.
 

star crash

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^^^ Curious how your autos will do… they look lush :)

The area that I have my containers is finally drying out
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Great outdoors

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Hi Great outdoors, :wave:
I’m over the moon with the health of the plants and the overall uniformity although I think we can all see the differences in the canopy also. Of course l can only try to recreate and capture the magnificence of the original work done by Jesse Dodd, aka Bio Vortex through careful selection and testing.
My lightbulb moment came after listening to a podcast with Dan Pomerantz, Ganja Rebel, Mean Gene and Bio Vortex in which, Gene said that he uses sativa lines with indicas in order to easily identify and breed out the undesirable traits in a few generations. I believe the Blackdog seeds offered by HSO are from Jesse’s 2012 selection and are truely outstanding at my latitude and all microclimates I’ve exposed them to.
And thank you Star crash, :whee: l do find this approach about as low tech as you can get but still extremely effective in its ability to assess individual lines or plants for the breeding objectives, l mentioned in the original post, without manipulating environmental factors to much.
Once the plants have been culled down to five or ten, they’ll be put outside, in the original pots, for further testing of over and under watering, ability to perform without nutrients, reveg etc, etc.
Cheers,
40.

I wish some more breeders would look towards the outdoors and breeding for hardiness, pest/ disease resistance and fast flowering. Instead most are focused on indoor designer strains without much thought except bag appeal and smell. And a good name 🤣
 

Calle Minogue

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I wish some more breeders would look towards the outdoors and breeding for hardiness, pest/ disease resistance and fast flowering. Instead most are focused on indoor designer strains without much thought except bag appeal and smell. And a good name 🤣

You are so right man. Because of that I started my own breeding program for my gusto and my climate :)

But maybe I will give them funky names as well :biggrin:
 

St. Phatty

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I covered the bare roots of the 3 still living Cannabis plants with soil, and then piled some rocks on top of that. To discourage digging.

Now running the sprinkler during the hot part of the day.

I agree with people that say you should water when it's cool so it doesn't evaporate.

But sometimes you got a situation where you need a sprinkler at the hottest part of the day.

The one Cookie cross that did the best, got to get a clone of her.

Birds eating her roots and removing all the dirt on the top, 100 degree days in the sun after transplanting. I am impressed by any plant or animal that can stand that 100 degrees, plus being in the sun.
 

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auto malawi in a spot thats going to get pollinated by some super silver haze auto males. just started to show sex.
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Tallest Tirah almost 12', several others around 10' and the shortest of the ten plants is 7'6", yikes! Eight are females, one male, and one to be determined. Only one of the five Hawaiian Hashbud plants is confirmed female, three are males and one TBD. Some of the Tirah have red pistils. Really curious to see how densely they stack, I'm actually hoping they stay airy so they are less susceptible to rot. ​
 

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put some soil on the exposed roots, added some rocks to discourage the birds. Then started giving them morning waterings with Nutes, and afternoon sprinklings to help them with the heat.

Romberry Cross in front, Cookie Cross in the back.
 

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Tallest Tirah almost 12', several others around 10' and the shortest of the ten plants is 7'6", yikes! Eight are females, one male, and one to be determined. Only one of the five Hawaiian Hashbud plants is confirmed female, three are males and one TBD. Some of the Tirah have red pistils. Really curious to see how densely they stack, I'm actually hoping they stay airy so they are less susceptible to rot. ​

Pics please PT sir :dance:
 

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put some soil on the exposed roots, added some rocks to discourage the birds. Then started giving them morning waterings with Nutes, and afternoon sprinklings to help them with the heat.

Romberry Cross in front, Cookie Cross in the back.
I admire your perseverance:smoker:
 
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