Anyone use Delta-8?

[Smoke_A_Lot]

So i just discovered delta-8, from what I read it's less stronger and psychoactive than delta-9 but it still gets you stoned. I was thinking of picking up some CBD rich hemp and lightly coating it with delta-8 distillate for a balanced high. My question is does anyone have experience using it? If so how does it compare to delta-9?

 

[armedoldhippy]

i've not put CBD on it, but have smoked hemp buds with Delta-8 on them from the dispensary. decent buzz, much like weed, but suffers from the same deficiencies that other cannabis substitutes do. no flavor to speak of, and the high is the same every time. usable in a tight spot, but it has no soul and won't be a long-term sub in my book.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

i've not put CBD on it, but have smoked hemp buds with Delta-8 on them from the dispensary. decent buzz, much like weed, but suffers from the same deficiencies that other cannabis substitutes do. no flavor to speak of, and the high is the same every time. usable in a tight spot, but it has no soul and won't be a long-term sub in my book.

Interesting, thanks for responding. I know there's no substitute for delta-9, that's why we love our weed so much.
Dispensaries are burning a hole in my pocket, and I'm not harvesting some fresh buds for at least a couple months (just started my grow). So I was looking for other cheaper alternatives, that's how i found out about it.
I mean people rave about it on Reddit, but for all I know it can be vendors posing as customers to hype up sales.

 

[Switcher56]

Interesting, thanks for responding. I know there's no substitute for delta-9, that's why we love our weed so much.
Dispensaries are burning a hole in my pocket, and I'm not harvesting some fresh buds for at least a couple months (just started my grow). So I was looking for other cheaper alternatives, that's how i found out about it.
I mean people rave about it on Reddit, but for all I know it can be vendors posing as customers to hype up sales.

Marketing is everything.

... in my case for at least a year going on two. That's how far the fire has set me back. Although I was able to save my stash, I have to judiciously "play scrooge" with my medicine. Some strains are important, some not so much so. The important ones are CBD, more specifically those strains with a 2:1 ratio, touted as the holy grail. So I have to make it last, until I get to grow again. I currently have 9 strains lined up, keeping in mind that while they are growing, I am still using, and many more strains will be added to the pipe as time goes on and, attach 6 months for a decent cure before consumption. Although I have been known to cheat LOL.

IMHO there is no hocus pocus gizmo that will do what the "plant" has the ability to do naturally. So I wouldn't be wasting my time there.

So I have to spend 3x as much for bud @ 50% potency compared to what I grow. To further exacerbate my situation, my strains aren't available on the BM and it is hit and miss with regards to obtaining them from the legal route. I was able to acquire some Jean Guy (cousin of the Ww) with a caveat... the higher concentration of THC causes anxiety. Yes it does Why I dismissed the strain in the beginning as Ww is great for moon days where I find myself content and happy, which I am, until someone pisses on my parade. Ww was to supplement my strain of (I don't give a shit) Dutch Treat as that is my goto strain for the moon phases.

Strains that I might have dissed in the past, have been revisited and I will be adding Lemon Haze to my stable. That was a good find. BUT! $185/oz. Considering the price of BM bud $175-$200 for whatever??? The good thing because all bud we buy here is "tumbled weed" It will fit nicely in my medicine cabinet, knowing in advance I can grow better than what is avail out there. Before I squeeze the trigger, I research their capability and terpene profile indiscriminately.

 

[armedoldhippy]

"rave about it on Reddit"... prob not actual vendors, it would be the kiss of death to get caught doing that. more likely friends/family of vendor, and people that cannot/will not buy real cannabis. IE- folks that don't know any better. "a hamburger tastes as good as a ribeye if you've never eaten a ribeye"

 

[Vandenberg]

This Delta-8 is a big selling product category, particularly in the prohibition (just say no) zones, and most would assume it is some good harmless fun...​

perhaps not?​

5 Things to Know about Delta-8 Tetrahydrocannabinol – Delta-8 THC

Delta-8 THC products are not approved by the FDA and may put you at risk.

www.fda.gov

Delta-8 THC​

Delta-8 tetrahydrocannabinol, also known as delta-8 THC, is a psychoactive substance found in the Cannabis sativa plant, of which marijuana and hemp are two varieties.
Delta-8 THC is one of over 100 cannabinoids produced naturally by the cannabis plant but is not found in significant amounts in the cannabis plant.
As a result, concentrated amounts of delta-8 THC are typically manufactured from hemp-derived cannabidiol (CBD).
It is important for consumers to be aware that delta-8 THC products have not been evaluated or approved by the FDA for safe use in any context.
They may be marketed in ways that put the public health at risk and should especially be kept out of reach of children and pets.

Here are 5 things you should know about delta-8 THC to keep you and those you care for safe from products that may pose serious health risks:​

1. Delta-8 THC products have not been evaluated or approved by the FDA for safe use and may be marketed in ways that put the public health at risk.​

The FDA is aware of the growing concerns surrounding delta-8 THC products currently being sold online and in stores. These products have not been evaluated or approved by the FDA for safe use in any context. Some concerns include variability in product formulations and product labeling, other cannabinoid and terpene content, and variable delta-8 THC concentrations. Additionally, some of these products may be labeled simply as “hemp products,” which may mislead consumers who associate “hemp” with “non-psychoactive.” Furthermore, the FDA is concerned by the proliferation of products that contain delta-8 THC and are marketed for therapeutic or medical uses, although they have not been approved by the FDA. Selling unapproved products with unsubstantiated therapeutic claims is not only a violation of federal law, but also can put consumers at risk, as these products have not been proven to be safe or effective. This deceptive marketing of unproven treatments raises significant public health concerns because patients and other consumers may use them instead of approved therapies to treat serious and even fatal diseases.

2. The FDA has received adverse event reports involving delta-8 THC-containing products.​

The FDA received 104 reports of adverse events in patients who consumed delta-8 THC products between December 1, 2020, and February 28, 2022. Of these 104 adverse event reports:

• 77% involved adults, 8% involved pediatric patients less than 18 years of age, and 15% did not report age.
• 55% required intervention (e.g., evaluation by emergency medical services) or hospital admission.
• 66% described adverse events after ingestion of delta-8 THC-containing food products (e.g., brownies, gummies).
• Adverse events included, but were not limited to: hallucinations, vomiting, tremor, anxiety, dizziness, confusion, and loss of consciousness.

National poison control centers received 2,362 exposure cases of delta-8 THC products between January 1, 2021 (i.e., date that delta-8 THC product code was added to database), and February 28, 2022. Of the 2,362 exposure cases:

• 58% involved adults, 41% involved pediatric patients less than 18 years of age, and 1% did not report age.
• 40% involved unintentional exposure to delta-8 THC and 82% of these unintentional exposures affected pediatric patients.
• 70% required health care facility evaluation, of which 8% resulted in admission to a critical care unit; 45% of patients requiring health care facility evaluation were pediatric patients.
• One pediatric case was coded with a medical outcome of death.

• 3. Delta-8 THC has psychoactive and intoxicating effects.​

  Delta-8 THC has psychoactive and intoxicating effects, similar to delta-9 THC (i.e., the component responsible for the “high” people may experience from using cannabis). The FDA is aware of media reports of delta-8 THC products getting consumers “high.” The FDA is also concerned that delta-8 THC products likely expose consumers to much higher levels of the substance than are naturally occurring in hemp cannabis raw extracts. Thus, historical use of cannabis cannot be relied upon in establishing a level of safety for these products in humans.
  
  

  4. Delta-8 THC products often involve use of potentially harmful chemicals to create the concentrations of delta-8 THC claimed in the marketplace.​

  The natural amount of delta-8 THC in hemp is very low, and additional chemicals are needed to convert other cannabinoids in hemp, like CBD, into delta-8 THC (i.e., synthetic conversion). Concerns with this process include:
  • Some manufacturers may use potentially unsafe household chemicals to make delta-8 THC through this chemical synthesis process. Additional chemicals may be used to change the color of the final product. The final delta-8 THC product may have potentially harmful by-products (contaminants) due to the chemicals used in the process, and there is uncertainty with respect to other potential contaminants that may be present or produced depending on the composition of the starting raw material. If consumed or inhaled, these chemicals, including some used to make (synthesize) delta-8 THC and the by-products created during synthesis, can be harmful.
  • Manufacturing of delta-8 THC products may occur in uncontrolled or unsanitary settings, which may lead to the presence of unsafe contaminants or other potentially harmful substances.

• 5. Delta-8 THC products should be kept out of the reach of children and pets.​

  Manufacturers are packaging and labeling these products in ways that may appeal to children (gummies, chocolates, cookies, candies, etc.). These products may be purchased online, as well as at a variety of retailers, including convenience stores and gas stations, where there may not be age limits on who can purchase these products. As discussed above, there have been numerous poison control center alerts involving pediatric patients who were exposed to delta-8 THC-containing products. Additionally, animal poison control centers have indicated a sharp overall increase in accidental exposure of pets to these products. Keep these products out of reach of children and pets.
  
  

  Why is the FDA notifying the public about delta-8 THC?​

  A combination of factors has led the FDA to provide consumers with this information. These factors include:
  • An uptick in adverse event reports to the FDA and the nation’s poison control centers.
  • Marketing, including online marketing of products, that is appealing to children.
  • Concerns regarding contamination due to methods of manufacturing that may in some cases be used to produce marketed delta-8 THC products.
• The FDA is actively working with federal and state partners to further address the concerns related to these products and monitoring the market for product complaints, adverse events, and other emerging cannabis-derived products of potential concern. The FDA will warn consumers about public health and safety issues and take action, when necessary, when FDA-regulated products violate the law.
  
  

  How to report complaints and cases of accidental exposure or adverse events:​

  If you think you are having a serious side effect that is an immediate danger to your health, call 9-1-1 or go to your local emergency room. Health care professionals and patients are encouraged to report complaints and cases of accidental exposure and adverse events to the FDA’s MedWatch Safety Information and Adverse Event Reporting Program:
  • Call an FDA Consumer Complaint Coordinator if you wish to speak directly to a person about your problem.
  • Complete an electronic Voluntary MedWatch form online or call 1-800-332-1088 to request a reporting form, then complete and return to the address on the form, or submit by fax to 1-800-FDA-0178.
  • Complete a paper Voluntary MedWatch form and mail it to the FDA.
  • To report adverse events in animals to the FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine, please download and submit Form FDA 1932a found at: www.fda.gov/ReportAnimalAE.
• FDA Issues Warning Letters: FDA Issues Warning Letters to Companies Illegally Selling CBD and Delta-8 THC Products
  
  Warning Letters: Warning Letters and Test Results for Cannabidiol-Related Products
  
  For more information about Delta-8 THC: CDC HEALTH ALERT NETWORK (HAN)
  
  The American Association of Poison Control Centers (AAPCC) maintains the National Poison Data System (NPDS), which houses de-identified case records of self-reported information collected from callers during exposure management and poison information calls managed by the country’s poison control centers (PCCs). NPDS data do not reflect the entire universe of exposures to a particular substance as additional exposures may go unreported to PCCs; accordingly, NPDS data should not be construed to represent the complete incidence of U.S. exposures to any substance(s). Exposures do not necessarily represent a poisoning or overdose and AAPCC is not able to completely verify the accuracy of every report. Findings based on NPDS data do not necessarily reflect the opinions of AAPCC.

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[Vandenberg]

Delta-8-THC - Extraction Magazine​

Delta-8-THC - Extraction Magazine

If delta-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) sounds familiar, it’s probably because the most well-known cannabinoid is delta-9-THC. As you may have guessed, the two compounds aren’t vastly different; in fact, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) defines delta-8-THC as “an analogue of THC.” However, that...

extractionmagazine.com

If delta-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) sounds familiar, it’s probably because the most well-known cannabinoid is delta-9-THC. As you may have guessed, the two compounds aren’t vastly different; in fact, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) defines delta-8-THC as “an analogue of THC.” However, that doesn’t go to say the two compounds are identical.
According to the NCI, delta-8-THC has “antiemetic, anxiolytic, appetite-stimulating, analgesic, and neuroprotective properties.”
How Strong is Delta-8-THC
As far as potency goes, the difference between delta-8-THC and delta-9-THC has been estimated at a ratio of 2:3. [1]
Anti-Emetic Properties
One of the most pronounced applications of delta-8-THC is its anti-emetic properties, which alleviate nausea. This ability clearly comes as a godsend for cancer patients who deal with nausea daily, especially as a result of chemotherapy.
A testament to delta-8-THC’s anti-emetic properties is a 1995 study on 8 children with cancer (ages 3 to 13) in which vomiting “was completely prevented” thanks to the cannabinoid. [2]
Appetite Stimulant
Being a true analogue of THC, delta-8-THC also might make you rummage through your fridge in the middle of the night like a wolverine. In fact, despite being less potent otherwise, as far as the munchies in mice go, delta-8-THC summons them even more powerfully than delta-9-THC. [3]
Cancer
While very little exploration of delta-8-THC’s potential to battle cancer has been undertaken, the limited research has actually been quite promising.
All the way back in 1975, a study on mice with lung cancer found that 20-day treatment with delta-8-THC reduced their tumour size; the cannabinoid increased life span by roughly 25% at 200mg/kg. [4]
Memory
Delta-8-THC has displayed neuroprotective properties, such as increasing the acetylcholine levels in the brains of mice. [5] Considering that Alzheimer’s is accompanied by low levels of acetylcholine, delta-8-THC’s neuroprotective properties could turn out to be highly applicable to this disease.
Limitations
Unlike delta-9-THC, delta-8-THC is found in significantly smaller quantities in cannabis, the difference being reminiscent of the way scientists compare the sizes of planets. Delta-8-THC’s amount in a cannabis cultivar may fall into in the ballpark of under 1% or even much, much less.
With that being said, companies like Oleum Extracts and FarmaceuticalRx are already focusing energy on the obscure cannabinoid, and with advancements in cannabis extraction and the compound’s potential, no doubt more will follow.
References:

1. Hollister LE and Gillespie HK. “Delta‐8‐ and Delta‐9‐Tetrahydrocannabinol; Comparison in Man by Oral and Intravenous Administration, Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics.” Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics, vol.14, no.3, 1973. Journal Impact Factor = 7.266; Times Cited = 64 (GoogleScholar)
2. Abrahamov A, et al. “An Efficient New Cannabinoid Antiemetic in Pediatric Oncology.” Life Sci,56, no.23-24,
3. 1995, pp.2097-102. Journal Impact Factor =3.488; Times Cited = 188 (GoogleScholar)
4. Avraham Y, et al. “Very Low Doses of Delta 8-THC Increase Food Consumption and Alter Neurotransmitter Levels Following Weight Loss.” Pharmacol Biochem Behav, vol.77, no.4, 2004, pp.675-84. Journal Impact Factor = 2.781; Times Cited = 34 (ResearchGate)
5. Munson AE, et al. “Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids.” Journal of the National Cancer Institute, vol.55, no.3, 1975, pp. 597–602. Journal Impact Factor = 12.589; Times Cited = 288 (GoogleScholar)
6. Tripathi HL, et al. “Effects of Cannabinoids on Levels of Acetylcholine and Choline and on Turnover Rate of Acetylcholine in Various Regions of the Mouse Brain.” Alcohol Drug Res, vol.7, no.5-6, 1987, pp.525-32. Journal Impact Factor = N/A; Times Cited = 15 (ResearchGate)

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[Lunchmoney]

When I used a delta- 8 cartridge it did get me high. It seemed cheap and the flavor was definitely added. The high was Mellow but very spacey and narcotic. I was more forgetful using this product than delta 9. Very very forgetful. Not stoned just little high and very forgetful and spaced out.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

I got some delta-8 flower to try from a reputable website. It really didn't do much for me, maybe I'll give it another try when my tolerance is low.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

So I experimented more with the delta-8 flower, here's my take.
It's nothing like regular weed, the high seems dirty if that makes any sense?
I experienced a slight headache and some nausea, like you'd get if you smoked on some low quality shwag.
It didn't seem to burn right either and the terps smelled like someone ate a bowl of rotten fruit and puked it back up again.
Over all I'd avoid it like the plague! It's nothing like the beloved Delta-9.

 

[X15]

Thank you all for the info here. I don’t have any experience with delta8 and unfortunately it’s all I can find around here. Ive heard many warnings and it concerns me that the law allows the use of what to me looks like a traditional cannabis warning symbol… ? When in fact it’s not. Also, just out of curiosity I called the local “Dispensary” to which the young girl that answered let me know that all their product was delta 8 infused*, and she assured me it’s the same thing and that she loves it. She was very nice but it got me worried even more lol.
These places have members only rooms? Please please lol

 

[chilliwilli]

Thank you all for the info here. I don’t have any experience with delta8 and unfortunately it’s all I can find around here. Ive heard many warnings and it concerns me that the law allows the use of what to me looks like a traditional cannabis warning symbol… ? When in fact it’s not. Also, just out of curiosity I called the local “Dispensary” to which the young girl that answered let me know that all their product was delta 8 infused*, and she assured me it’s the same thing and that she loves it. She was very nice but it got me worried even more lol.
These places have members only rooms? Please please lol

It looks like one toddler died after ingesting an delta 8 - thc gummibear

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Natural Delta-8 gooooood.
Delta-8 commercial products skeeeeetchy.

 

[armedoldhippy]

It looks like one toddler died after ingesting an delta 8 - thc gummibear

read that too. some news say the child ate SEVERAL of them. mommy not paying shit for attention.

 

[Smoke_A_Lot]

Thank you all for the info here. I don’t have any experience with delta8 and unfortunately it’s all I can find around here. Ive heard many warnings and it concerns me that the law allows the use of what to me looks like a traditional cannabis warning symbol… ? When in fact it’s not. Also, just out of curiosity I called the local “Dispensary” to which the young girl that answered let me know that all their product was delta 8 infused*, and she assured me it’s the same thing and that she loves it. She was very nice but it got me worried even more lol.
These places have members only rooms? Please please lol

Sounds more like a smoke shop than a dispensary lol. The employee would say that though, she has to keep her job. I don't think it's the same thing at all, it's like comparing between night & day.
but do what you have to do to find relief I guess.

 

[mudballs]

"THC and CBD bind with cannabinoid receptors (CB1 and CB2), which are present in the brain and many organs"
Those 2 receptors are our primary drivers in getting high
"Δ8 -THC is a partial agonist of the cannabinoid CB1 receptor and has cannabimimetic activity"

delta 8 is known as an analog
"A drug whose physical structure is related to that of another drug"
The sciencey term is 'ligand'
A molecule that binds to a receptor is called a ligand and can be a protein, peptide (short protein), or another small molecule, such as a neurotransmitter, hormone, pharmaceutical drug, toxin, calcium ion or parts of the outside of a virus or microbe.
It was found that a ligand's CB1 affinity and efficacy are differentially altered by modifications in the side-chain. Decreasing the flexibility of the side-chain reduced efficacy but largely did not alter affinity.

I had a friend force me to smoke one last summer...and it was a good high. I ran out of stash in December and started buying these to get me thru...they frkn work for me. I know it's hemp, but im thinking whoever worked on these selected for potency, or the lab reports are falsified to get this in legal market. Either way I've been ripping these prerolls open for a long time looking for a seed, finally scored one. Then of course i didn't know ANYTHING about delta 8 so started looking. I can't wait to see what this sucker looks like.

 

[shithawk420]

Bought this for $25.got me pretty high.i guess it's worth it if you can't get the real thing.