Anyone Here A Mason?

[floralheart]

Oh, the synchronicity....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/16/stenographer-shouting-on-house-floor_n_4112145.html

A shouting stenographer was removed from the House floor as lawmakers voted on a deal to reopen the government and avoid a debt crisis.

The stenographer began shouting as the the House approved the number of votes needed to pass the bill. According to reporters, she was yelling about God and Freemasons

There is a video of the incident, unfortunately with crappy audio, on the link above...scroll down to bottom.

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]I LOVE that. She told the truth. Everyone is going SHHHH. LOL! Shit is getting real. They'll probably poison her in the cloak room between quorum calls.

Incidentally, CSPAN is also where I heard the mayor of tokyo say that the US shot down the flight over PA, via his translator on a live broadcast while apologizing to the assembly and expressing condolences. It was the day after you know when. It's a great bunch of theater.
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[Weird]

I know many masons, most are nice enough, many are solid dudes, very close to a couple and I admit I have even been intrigued but I would never consider being one.

Not that I don't like the idea of brotherhood and fraternal community but I have had reservations as well

there are a number of reasons this is one of them

you have to commit the totality of your being (without reservation) to people unknown to you with unknown agendas, remember the likes of alister crowely been members (master of mind control), it is a very easy system to use to subvert those less intelligent than you and ultimately give very few a whole lot of control over very loyal minions.

I could get very deep, very very deep into this topic including what floralheart touched no but I will not. It is uncommon knowledge for a reason. I don't condemn people for what they believe or what they practice but there is a darkness that resides in masonry than most of its members understand or realize.

 

[Weird]

fwiw I have found greater "magiks" in treating the world as if everyone were members of the same organization and deserving of the same privilege regardless

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

That was awesome!!!

 

[floralheart]

On the positive side, you have access to their library and reading room. I bought mine with my own dime.

You get access to the other lodges. Also, you have the opportunity to gain access to related orders that require the 3rd degree.

I also recommend Poke Runyon's radio program. He's the founder of the OTA.

I've seen enough to know that I don't want to go any further. Enough to feel better about dying. And enough to want to know a little less about everything that's happening right now.

 

[Bigge]

My favorite Poe story....don't tread on me!

 

[floralheart]

This is the only decent documentary I've seen on the net. (I believe I'm sending you the right link, I just listened to the guys voice for a second, sounds familiar; had to look it back up from last winter.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvUNRekfEE8

It's more on the material-historical side of the equation.

 

[floralheart]

Manly P. Hall and Napolean Hill are two people I recommend. My lady practices Napolean Hill's teachings, and so did I at one time; I should be doing it right now. His live filmed interview is good to watch (youtube).

I do like Jordan Maxwell, but that's a complicated topic. Santos Bonacci and Jordan both make Manly's material more digestable; don't invest in everything you hear, just feel what's resonating and parse the rest. Most of Jordan's wisdom is in fact Manly P. Halls wisdom. He's done great work on his own, however I stand by what I said above.

He loves to mention his vow of poverty, along with Freeman and others, just in case the world has been dunced enough to not hear it for the 11th time in 5 minutes.

 

[floralheart]

Oh, and this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Sci4FvXH4

 

[mrcreosote]

Alister Crowley was nothing more than a poncey pervy playactor.

His "Mastery" extended only as far as convincing some weak minded society types of his mastery of gobbledegook.

I'd be more concerned about the addictive qualities of Girl Scout Cookies, Do-si-do's

Pure Evil.

 

[Weird]

Alister Crowley was nothing more than a poncey pervy playactor.

His "Mastery" extended only as far as convincing some weak minded society types of his mastery of gobbledegook.

I'd be more concerned about the addictive qualities of GS Cookies, Do-si-do's

Pure Evil.

this isn't a conversation about Alister.

It was the point that if someone with his proclivities can be a member whom you must treat as a brother and protect his secrets accordingly in a system where people are tested for their loyalty before they understand the totality of what they are being loyal too that the potential for subversion and abuse is inherent and obvious to even a causal observer from the outside

masonry like the church is the manifestation of human will that is virtually immortal

that is the will of the church or the masons exists past our individual lifetimes and this is very, very powerful especially to those with agendas (of good or bad intent)

look at the dynamic of wealth knoweldge and privileged in the bush family and imagine what that dynamic would be like if they had been established in Egypt thousands of years ago

that was my point, who knows what the original meaning was and what it has evolved to be and who has had a hand in the evolution

you must be loyal to the masons unto death before you will truly know

in my head that says you need to put loyalty to the unknown ahead of being true to your conscious

I may not be a Freemason but I am a freeman who lives according to his conscious and freely expresses himself regarding it

but like i said no hate or bias to the masons my personal experience with them is they are good people and do good things for others, based on that I have no judgement. It is the system itself that makes me question things.

just my 2 cents

 

[TickleMyBalls]

Can beat em? Join em huh krunch?

 

[AzGrOw-N-sMoKe]

I've been asked to be a hang around at my grand fathers masonry lodge... higher ranking members of the Scottish masons.... great place to network... lots of real powerful cats are or were masons.... do you know the first 3 laws yet?? AZ

 

[bombadil.360]

the first set of three laws are:

1. there's no such thing as grow-club
2. there's no such thing as grow-club
3. there's no such thing as grow-club


the second set of three laws:

1,don't tell
2.don't smell
3.don't sell


these make you a Free Grower

 

[Hoover_lungz]

F#%k the Iluminati

 

[BurnOne]

My dad is a 32nd degree Mason and a Shriner. He recently received his blue hat. He is a World War II veteran with two battle stars and was active in the Korean Conflict. He is 87 years old.
I have never heard him say one word about their organization or what it means. But I do know people who have had badly burned children who were treated at a Shriner's Hospital. Those kids got the best care in the world and it didn't cost the family one cent. They got to stay with their children the whole time in a room that was more like a home than a hospital room.
Burn1

 

[Pinball Wizard]

My older brother was a Mason. I was a hod-carrier.

 

[azad]

Plenty of cops are masons, so your in great company lol

 

[Weird]

My dad is a 32nd degree Mason and a Shriner. He recently received his blue hat. He is a World War II veteran with two battle stars and was active in the Korean Conflict. He is 87 years old.
I have never heard him say one word about their organization or what it means. But I do know people who have had badly burned children who were treated at a Shriner's Hospital. Those kids got the best care in the world and it didn't cost the family one cent. They got to stay with their children the whole time in a room that was more like a home than a hospital room.
Burn1

I have heard many good things as well.

The catholic church is an organization that has also suffered because of depravity within it's ranks.

The inherent danger of any fraternity to polarize against those they are designed to serve is a constant that cannot be denied.

Look at the fraternity of catholic priests of the fraternity of police or even our congress for example.

They are for good yet have sullied reputations because they have been known to preserve self before honoring the rights of others.

It is difficult to maintain an organization where the whole organization is greater than the sum of its parts.

Our forefathers already knew this (masons themselves) before they sought to create this country and even with their control, the country has last its potency through greed and bureaucracy

It is inherit in our design to be lured by greed and power and the lure unfortunately is a constant pressure

 

[Weird]

IMHO for example Crowley leveraged the power of the freemasons intentionally because he understood the system as a means to permanently evoke his will and his teachings.

Manifest his being into a reality that extended beyond his years

kinda like inserting a self replicating worm virus.