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Anyone ever been busted for posting stuff on the internet?
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SacredBreh
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Agreed.....
Agreed.....
The time is now! It may be too late.... but if we wait..... It will be too late. Anyone not active and participating, is part of the problem.
Peace
Agreed.....
The time is now! It may be too late.... but if we wait..... It will be too late. Anyone not active and participating, is part of the problem.
Peace
Anyone that does not dissolve is not part of the solution.
you can thank the stupid little jerks on Phantasy Tour SCI section for this bust, constantly bragging about their sales and use.
http://phantasytour.com/bands/3/topics
I did and I all found is that the owner/admin was arrested. Do you have any links to users of OG being arrested after the servers were seized?
What about posting pics of your grow and buds and stuff from like say....Barnes & Noble....would that be a safe way to do it? I guess the TOR thing is good also...but how would they find you if you were running through someone else's IP...like a coffee shop of something?
I would really like to post pics and info on my grow...but I am nervous about my safety as I am not in a med state. And because I work with others...I cannot put them at risk because I want to post pics on the internet. That would be stupid imho.
TpM
I would really like to post pics and info on my grow...but I am nervous about my safety as I am not in a med state. And because I work with others...I cannot put them at risk because I want to post pics on the internet. That would be stupid imho.
TpM
old OG member here an not busted too.
G
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facebook and myspace are the things to blame.. everyone brags about how there going here and there and doing this and that drug.. then the cops know exactly what there doing.. forums are not as easy.. facebook people use there real names... shits ben gettin people arrested since it came out! just people dont know thats what got em busted.!
nukklehead
Active member
Well for one most of the growers on these forums grow for personal use, you need to keep in mind it costs lots of man hrs and money to do online busting, and with all the cut backs there just plain isn't enough money to start up some online busting team.
Flir is illegal to use , police getting a search warrant is getting harder remember one thing a Judge decides on a warrant so the cops need to have evidence beyond a resonable doubt.
and mostly certainly cops are not looking for the small time grower even the 80+ plant growers are nothing compared to these growers that unload 100's of kilos if not more weekly this is organized crime so corrupted that the police probably work for them just look at mexico ???? 50 tons a week enter usa organizations that spend billions into grow op's
Here do the Math http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/math.html
Now any grower should be cautious meaning less people knowing that your growing the better Right ????? keep common sense when posting ,
only way your going to get busted is giving out your mailing address to some member YES there could very well be under covers on this site befriending you asking you to send seeds more or less setting you up
bottom line TRUST KNOW ONE
Flir is illegal to use , police getting a search warrant is getting harder remember one thing a Judge decides on a warrant so the cops need to have evidence beyond a resonable doubt.
and mostly certainly cops are not looking for the small time grower even the 80+ plant growers are nothing compared to these growers that unload 100's of kilos if not more weekly this is organized crime so corrupted that the police probably work for them just look at mexico ???? 50 tons a week enter usa organizations that spend billions into grow op's
Here do the Math http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/math.html
Now any grower should be cautious meaning less people knowing that your growing the better Right ????? keep common sense when posting ,
only way your going to get busted is giving out your mailing address to some member YES there could very well be under covers on this site befriending you asking you to send seeds more or less setting you up
bottom line TRUST KNOW ONE
I once had a indoor burn down maybe 2 or 3 hundred years ago ( lol ) and it was a total loss but they the fireman called the police they knew what was up.So i offcourse split and later that day got a call from leo telling me they knew what i was doing bla bla and so on seen my pics of my garden .Well i got the nerve to go and check it out and there was my picture album full of pics laying there opened and veiwed but not taken.
Smelly_Cheese
Active member
doubtful any small grower will be busted because of post or pics, however,if you got raided and they checked your pc then you bet your ass if you try to defend yourself they will use your post against you. So if your defense is "i was only growing for personal use" then they read post saying "i sold my buddy 4 oz's today" your screwed. Or "i never had more than a few" then they see your post "look at these 25"
Also i used to be really into hacking satellite tv. It was huge and we had many forums. They always claimed the server was offshore but the site owner would get busted and turn over all info. They used isp's crossed with email address and pm's to sue the shit out of individuals. And yes many were criminal too. (decodernews, piratesden, hackhu to name a few). They had numerous moderators snitching on each other and planted moles on the forums but it was mostly not athorities but instead the satellite providers although some were definately involving the feds and the rcmp. Hackhu . com still goes straight to directtv signal integrity
Also i used to be really into hacking satellite tv. It was huge and we had many forums. They always claimed the server was offshore but the site owner would get busted and turn over all info. They used isp's crossed with email address and pm's to sue the shit out of individuals. And yes many were criminal too. (decodernews, piratesden, hackhu to name a few). They had numerous moderators snitching on each other and planted moles on the forums but it was mostly not athorities but instead the satellite providers although some were definately involving the feds and the rcmp. Hackhu . com still goes straight to directtv signal integrity
"Flir is illegal to use , police getting a search warrant is getting harder remember one thing a Judge decides on a warrant so the cops need to have evidence beyond a resonable doubt."
Just so you know the criteria for getting a search warrant is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt... that is the criteria for a conviction.
"most searches by the police require a search warrant based on probable cause, although there are exceptions. Any police entry of an individual's home always requires a warrant (for either search or arrest), absent exigent circumstances, or the free and voluntary consent of a person with reasonably apparent use of or control over the property.
Under the Fourth Amendment, searches must be reasonable and specific. This means that a search warrant must be specific as to the specified object to be searched for and the place to be searched. Other items, rooms, outbuildings, persons, vehicles, etc. may require additional search warrants.
To obtain a search warrant, an officer must first prove that probable cause exists before a magistrate or judge, based upon direct information (i.e. obtained by the officer's personal observation) or hearsay information. Hearsay information can even be obtained by oral testimony given over a telephone, or through an anonymous or confidential informant, so long as probable cause exists based on the totality of the circumstances. Both property and persons can be seized under a search warrant. The standard for a search warrant is lower than the quantum of proof required for a later conviction. The rationale is that the evidence that can be collected without a search warrant may not be sufficient to convict, but may be sufficient to suggest that enough evidence to convict could be found using the warrant."
Also FLIR is only illegal with no warrant...
Just so you know the criteria for getting a search warrant is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt... that is the criteria for a conviction.
"most searches by the police require a search warrant based on probable cause, although there are exceptions. Any police entry of an individual's home always requires a warrant (for either search or arrest), absent exigent circumstances, or the free and voluntary consent of a person with reasonably apparent use of or control over the property.
Under the Fourth Amendment, searches must be reasonable and specific. This means that a search warrant must be specific as to the specified object to be searched for and the place to be searched. Other items, rooms, outbuildings, persons, vehicles, etc. may require additional search warrants.
To obtain a search warrant, an officer must first prove that probable cause exists before a magistrate or judge, based upon direct information (i.e. obtained by the officer's personal observation) or hearsay information. Hearsay information can even be obtained by oral testimony given over a telephone, or through an anonymous or confidential informant, so long as probable cause exists based on the totality of the circumstances. Both property and persons can be seized under a search warrant. The standard for a search warrant is lower than the quantum of proof required for a later conviction. The rationale is that the evidence that can be collected without a search warrant may not be sufficient to convict, but may be sufficient to suggest that enough evidence to convict could be found using the warrant."
Also FLIR is only illegal with no warrant...
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qupee
Member
In my experience, for a questionable ethical officer it takes as little as a somewhat high power bill.
They claim they have a tip or were in the area and smelled potent fresh marijuana, etc. Some initiator (and if they're looking at you they probably did get a tip). Then they get an administrative subpoena for your power, lower threshold to meet than a warrant. If the power bill looks high to them they'll do trash pulls - and if questionably ethical stems will show up in it even if you didn't put them there.
Then they go back to the judge and say we had a tip (or whatever), high power bill double (or whatever) of other houses in the neighborhood (the power company gives them comparables), we found stems in the trash, and maybe some additional BS like they keep their shades down that's a sign of a grow house.
They get their warrant and maybe had nothing more than some lead onto you and a moderately high power bill.
In my neighborhood it's a lot of older folks and most everyone has gas forced air heat so electric bills are low on average, 1kw with average use from living there could make you look like double if the comparables were mostly on the low side. At 3500w total of lights I was 6x the average (over $350 in sept & oct). This is a 2000 sq ft (including the finished basement).
They claim they have a tip or were in the area and smelled potent fresh marijuana, etc. Some initiator (and if they're looking at you they probably did get a tip). Then they get an administrative subpoena for your power, lower threshold to meet than a warrant. If the power bill looks high to them they'll do trash pulls - and if questionably ethical stems will show up in it even if you didn't put them there.
Then they go back to the judge and say we had a tip (or whatever), high power bill double (or whatever) of other houses in the neighborhood (the power company gives them comparables), we found stems in the trash, and maybe some additional BS like they keep their shades down that's a sign of a grow house.
They get their warrant and maybe had nothing more than some lead onto you and a moderately high power bill.
In my neighborhood it's a lot of older folks and most everyone has gas forced air heat so electric bills are low on average, 1kw with average use from living there could make you look like double if the comparables were mostly on the low side. At 3500w total of lights I was 6x the average (over $350 in sept & oct). This is a 2000 sq ft (including the finished basement).
blackosprey
Member
oh, PT....that place is a shit show. Back in the day, PT was great for all sorts of things...you know, "I just flew into blah blah blah and need a little help, need my meds" and boom, someone there could help you out. Nowadays PT is full of the new crop of kids and while they get it, they really don't "get it." I feel like and old man over there these days.
