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Scrappy-doo
Never heard of anyone using Forbid as a dunk. Hoping someone has used it successfully and any recommendations with dosage or other tips on getting it done proper. Thanks. 
3 ml per 5 gallon with Saturator.
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Scrappy-doo
Hey man thanks for the reply. What is a saturator? Like a sticker/wetting agent as in dish soap?
Did your plants suffer at all?
I did a floramite dunk and got some burn on my girls before. Hoping to avoid that this time. K+ for the response much appreciated!
Did your plants suffer at all?
I did a floramite dunk and got some burn on my girls before. Hoping to avoid that this time. K+ for the response much appreciated!
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Scrappy-doo
Yes. Saturator is awetting agent from Dutch Master.
Nope. I sprayed huge trees with up to 9ml of ForbidF4 per 5 gal and it didn't burn.
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Homer J Pimpin
I've been thinking bout this very subject today........How on earth could it be any different than a sprayer ? It's just forbid and cold water with a wetting agent.........How could the plant know if it's getting dunked or sprayed to all hell ? And why would it care which method you used all it know's is it's getting a hefty dose of poison as long as the dosage, is correct then can't see any difference how it's applied.Fuckin mites,give um a dose of floromite and 4 days later there are a thousand more.....only they are immune to floromite now....Makes you really think darwinism and natural selection and the food chain so to speak........How can humans be so arogant to believe that we are the inheritors of the earth....? when a species of being not even one one millionth of our size continues to evade,survive,and defy us......? too deep ?
damn hash!
damn hash!
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Scrappy-doo
Some sprays are not recommended to be dunked because of the risk of burning the plant, so you are supposed to use it sparingly. It even says for some of them that you should not saturate when spraying, but spray just enough to cover the areas because of this same risk of burning the foliage.
I'm just trying to cover all my bases so I don't fuck my plants all up like the last time I dunked with forbid. They're only just starting to fully recover from that now. I'm sure you can appreciate the caution, and the extra homework on the subject, right homer?
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Homer J Pimpin
if you allready dunked with forbid and still have mites then you need another product because the mites you have now are immune to forbid.....either that or the product was expired and did not work..my money's on immune....Building a super mite one product at a time......
I have dunked with forbid @ .75 mL/gal. I did not dip the root balls...I held the plants upside down.
Regarding why dunk vs spray the hell outta your plants. IMO it is a little safer to dunk vs putting a bunch of spray in the air & dunking gives complete coverage. I realize you can get good coverage spraying & I do spray my larger plants but I dunk my small ones
Regarding why dunk vs spray the hell outta your plants. IMO it is a little safer to dunk vs putting a bunch of spray in the air & dunking gives complete coverage. I realize you can get good coverage spraying & I do spray my larger plants but I dunk my small ones
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Scrappy-doo
Ah krud no that was a typo. I dunked with floramite last time. Worked real well didn't see any mites until a few days ago, but it busted my girls all up for a while. OK so I'm gonna take the plunge and do a forbid dunk tonight. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for the help everyone!
Thanks for the help everyone!
takkada
Member
good luck
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Scrappy-doo
Thanks for the input everyone. My other half ended up not wanting to use forbid because "It's poison!" and didn't want to touch the girls afterwards for fear of dying or something... who knows. So I ended up doing a dunk of floramite, which is every bit as poisonous I'm sure. One poison traded in for another. Oh well either way. As long as the mites are destroyed I don't care too much.
But is does bring an interesting question to mind. Anyone know which of the two is more dangerous?
But is does bring an interesting question to mind. Anyone know which of the two is more dangerous?
Mia
Active member
Relatively speaking, neither is very dangerous. Buddy at hydroshop told me a story of a guy who bought a 20 ml vial of floramite and his dog ate it, he freaked out and took it to the vet and the vet said there wasn't really anything to be done or to do about it. Dog is fine. i don't know that would be the case with avid... Floramite's active ingredient is bifenzate(or something like that) and everything i've read about forbid says that it is not very dangerous to mammals at all. That being said, still use caution handling and using these chemicals, dispose of them properly(best way is to only mix up what you are using and keep it out of waterways!), use good IPM practices, and do try to opt for neem and the such when you can.
If you want to figure these things out, pull up the MSDS for them. That's what I do.
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Scrappy-doo
Wow that's surprising to hear Mia! So many people warn about how terrible and dangerous these more aggressive treatments are. I've gotten some floramite on my skin when doing dunks before. Worst that I've experienced is a very slight burning sensation, but it was real mild as far as I'm concerned. But other people I know freak out at just the thought of it. I'll have to look at that MSDS. Thanks!
Mia
Active member
I still consider them poisons. But I also consider car exhaust poison. As long as you are responsible it is not the end of the world as some of the organic heads will exclaim. Don't use these in flower. Some people will say it's ok to use floramite in flower since its not systemic and the residual is like a month, but I won't spray anything like that on my flowers that I'm ingesting....
You do need to be careful about breeding resistance though. Supposedly mites cannot get resistant to forbid, they sure as hell can from floramite. Either way you should ALWAYS be rotating products.....
I bought a 3 pack on ebay a year ago of forbid, floramite, and avid. It was like 50-60$ for 3 small bottles, one of each. I used forbid once last year in May and haven't even opened the floramite or avid cuz I haven't had to. Haven't seen a mite since. Stuff works real well. I spray, but don't see why it wouldn't work dunking. I geared up with a mask and tyvec suit when I applied it taping up the wrists and ankles with gloves of course. Real light spray too, I didn't even saturate the leaves. Very effective.
When I first glanced at the title of this thread I thought it said.
Anyone drunk when using Forbid?
and I thought, what horrible incident is this going to be about?
Anyone drunk when using Forbid?
and I thought, what horrible incident is this going to be about?
