Anti's MicroStealth Cab Design (Dr. Bud Method)

[JackSkellington]

and me askin in what you all bought i mean like how much fans fer that space n how many vents n extras not like wood n wat not lol

 

[DemonsGate]

The plants are looking good Anti. I just had some wood cut to make a clone of your cab, hope you don't mind. I'll have to post a pic when it's all done. Peace.

 

[madb]

very inspiring mate, i am still a year off before i am able to do an indoor grow but this design is spot on.

best of luck on your harvest.

 

[Agent-Smith]

aye anti reading yer thread i decided to switch what i was guna do yer stykle of grow...only probs i have are wiring i kno nuthng about it so do you gotta wire those 6 lights togethor er im knda cnfused on that n fer what you plug it all into...like a power strip?? sry id read the hole thng but i knda cant read fer long wthout sidetrackn so yeea lol but also what all did you buy?? cuz i wna do it almost exactly like yers except maybe a lil bigger....thnx bud yr an excellent student cuz u snd like u got yr shit togethor like a pro..keep it up

Dude, no offense, but just because you get sidetracked easily doesn't mean he should rewrite all of that info cause you are actually just too lazy to go back and look it all up. All potheads get sidetracked, you are nothing special LOL....get over yourself and read like everyone else does.

 

[Anti]

aye anti reading yer thread i decided to switch what i was guna do yer stykle of grow...only probs i have are wiring i kno nuthng about it so do you gotta wire those 6 lights togethor er im knda cnfused on that n fer what you plug it all into...like a power strip?? sry id read the hole thng but i knda cant read fer long wthout sidetrackn so yeea lol but also what all did you buy?? cuz i wna do it almost exactly like yers except maybe a lil bigger....thnx bud yr an excellent student cuz u snd like u got yr shit togethor like a pro..keep it up

Here's a link to the post where I put up a list of everything I bought, right down to the sizes of wood I had cut at the hardware store.

To wire the lights, I bought two $2 extension cords like this:

I cut the big end off that you plug things into. Then, from the end I had just cut, I cut eight 6" pieces and one 22" piece. Then I wired it up to my six $2 porcelain light sockets. (Careful mounting those to the board. They crack if you screw too tightly.) The leftover part of the cord (the longest part) with the wall plug goes on one end and the 22" piece goes between the 3rd and 4th socket. The 6" pieces go between every other socket. Here's a couple pics. The left is a close-up. The right is farther back so you can see how the 22" piece attaches:



This was my first ever attempt at splicing a wire that would eventually be plugged into a wall-socket. I've spliced speaker wire before, but that's about the extent of it. It was really easy, honestly.

Good luck with it.

As far as what I plug it into, the lights are plugged into timers like this:

(That's not the exact model I bought, but similar. Mine has two grounded plugs and can handle a little higher amp load than this one pictured could. But probably doesn't need to.)

The timer is plugged into a power-strip and the PSU for the fans is also plugged into the strip.

 

[JackSkellington]

Dude, no offense, but just because you get sidetracked easily doesn't mean he should rewrite all of that info cause you are actually just too lazy to go back and look it all up. All potheads get sidetracked, you are nothing special LOL....get over yourself and read like everyone else does.

lol i am nuthng special??lmao wen did i ever say i was m u seem to use tht smiley alot sure u dnt got braindamage??lol u need to chillax there agent thts a prty nasty cmback to me askin what he all got meaning like how many fans n vents thts it lol lmao wth is wrng wit u duchill yr ass out take it easy tho n hope u get yr anger probs all settled out wth a smoke pc n mch luv

anti: thank you bro yer the manwsh i cld thro sum mor +k yr way

 

[Agent-Smith]

lol i am nuthng special??lmao wen did i ever say i was m u seem to use tht smiley alot sure u dnt got braindamage??lol u need to chillax there agent thts a prty nasty cmback to me askin what he all got meaning like how many fans n vents thts it lol lmao wth is wrng wit u duchill yr ass out take it easy tho n hope u get yr anger probs all settled out wth a smoke pc n mch luv

anti: thank you bro yer the manwsh i cld thro sum mor +k yr way

OK, I can't understand anything you just wrote. You need to learn how to spell and grow up, I'm just surprised Anti even did what he did for you considering how ignorant you sound. Most people on these boards know how to show respect, know how to type and convey there messages better than a hoodrat, and don't ask questions that have been answered in the thread already. You have alot to learn little Noob, but I don't see that happening anytime soon, as you have shown enough about yourself in the last 2 posts.

 

[JackSkellington]

wats with this guy...yer telling me to growup beacause of ?? what exactly.... and hoodrat...yea i geuss so i live in a hood a neighborhood n suburbia lol reALy bro i dont know what yer gettng all steamy about i basically told you to smoke green n cool off n you call me a noob n to growup hmm i dont get it...and im not about to jack antis thread just to satisfy yr need to get all touchy on everyone..anti helped me out hes a good guy so why r u gtn pissed ..?cuz he gave me a link n helped a felow grower get off the ground....geez dude go n check yerself now plse dnt reply until you get sum thc n yr systm im not feeling up to battle of the words on a forum

sry fer messn up ur shit anti dont wna make yer thread into n argument

 

[DracoRincewind]

Wow!! Those are SO perfect for the DrBud style I'd like to give those a try sometime... Congrats on getting all your stuff going Anti I love the CD case stealthness of it!

I am defiantly buying some of those for my DrBud style cab I'm designing. That is if DrBud ever answers my lighting question on his thread. Its the only thing holding up construction.

But these pots are exactly what I have been looking for.

 

[nekoloving]

I am defiantly buying some of those for my DrBud style cab I'm designing. That is if DrBud ever answers my lighting question on his thread. Its the only thing holding up construction.

But these pots are exactly what I have been looking for.

may want to just link to the question, or re-ask it here. Thundurkel seems to be a bit of a disciple there, and certainly has a good eye

 

[DracoRincewind]

may want to just link to the question, or re-ask it here. Thundurkel seems to be a bit of a disciple there, and certainly has a good eye

Oh sure, I could use any input I can get. And you are right that Thundurkel may have some good insights. I'm working in similar dimensions, just one chamber on top of the other. So I would love to hear his thoughts.

(I just copy & pasted it.)

I am in need of a little advice about CFLs and you seem the be the man to go to.

First off I want to say that you where the one to inspire my first grow box design(DrBudGreengenes). But it was very small. It was a stealth number built in a rolling tool cabinet. Two tiny 1'x1'x2'ish chambers. And I have only used it once(My very first grow I have to add), finding a few bugs in the design(And a wonderful growing learning experience). But recently a neighbor threw out one of those high endurance plastic garden sheds - 66"H x 29"W x 15"D. I am going to divide it into 2 Micro SOG chambers. The bottom for keeping some mothers (want to do some experimenting with breeding later on) and cloning, the top for vegging and flowering.

Now the initial idea is to wall off about 5" on one side for the electronics and air circulation/filtration. So each internal box will be about 32"H x24"W x 15"D. This may change a tiny bit as I'm thinking of adding a water reservoir. But it doesn't change my question.

Ok now you know the situation here is my question. I'm pirating whatever parts I can from my first box, and that includes the lights. Now since it was such a small space I used 150W CFLs. 2 for vegetative phase and adding a 3rd for flowering/budding.

Now I'm worried that in the bigger space the light might not be spread out enough. So I was wondering if I should move down to smaller 45W CFLs or, If not, how should I position the 150W to best spread the light? (REMINDER - 32"H x24"W x 15"D space - I'll be adding another light = 3 for vegging, 4 for flowering)

I hate the idea of unnecessary waste. Hence my curbside rescued box.

 

[strydr]

Draco, while I'm no expert (nor am I DrBGG, or Thundererkel, or anti, for that matter , I would say stick with the 150's- smaller lights = less penetration. If you are concerned about light spread, just add more lights. I have a small veg box, currently I am running 9 150W CFL's in a 2x2 space

Pic says a 1K words..

 

[JackSkellington]

nice stryder looks good

n anti one more qeustion for you..so basically i went to buy bulbs n sockets today only to find out there are like 5 kinds all 42 watters but yea..i wrote em down...so one was warm white by earthtornics 2700k,anthr was tcb full spectrum 5100k spring lamp, the next was tcp halogen white 3500k, thn there was tcp full spectrum 6500k, and last was tcp 4100k...so whch ones are best i noticed you got 2 kinds saying you hoped one would be 5000k + range are those for flowering or whch ones are better wld you thnk...is ther a big diference?

 

[Anti]

nice stryder looks good

n anti one more qeustion for you..so basically i went to buy bulbs n sockets today only to find out there are like 5 kinds all 42 watters but yea..i wrote em down...so one was warm white by earthtornics 2700k,anthr was tcb full spectrum 5100k spring lamp, the next was tcp halogen white 3500k, thn there was tcp full spectrum 6500k, and last was tcp 4100k...so whch ones are best i noticed you got 2 kinds saying you hoped one would be 5000k + range are those for flowering or whch ones are better wld you thnk...is ther a big diference?

Wish I had that option. If I did I'd probably try 2 6500k, 2 5100k and 2 2700k for veg and then just use 1-6500k and 1-5100k and 4-2700k during veg. As it is all I can find in 42 watts in my neck of woods is 2700k so that's what i'm using during veg as well. 6500k and/or 5100k would produce tighter nodes according to research. (Shorter/bushier)

 

[DracoRincewind]

Anti - The Panasonic Whisper Is your ticket just like it was mine! The version I have has a variable speed DC motor that automatically increases RPM when static pressure is presented (up to .25 static pressure) so that the fan will still move its rated CFM! If you are going to commit to this expect to pay about $100-140 for the fan and maybe only $30 in supplies to make the DIY carbon tray (included cost of carbon too). I was on a budget for my grow, but because I had my priorities straight, I never skimp on security. I'd feel pretty dumb sitting in a cell knowing I could have shelled out an extra $80 bucks to have avoided it. What are the odds the extra benefits could save ya... I'd agree it is ridiculously low, but still the consequence is almost as extremely undesirable on the other end of the spectrum and its 80 bucks to a just for a little amount of peace of mind. I have a 120mm Silverstone brand 110 (or 120) CFM 12V DC and when I dial it to what I suspect is 80CFM. It is much louder than my 80CFM Whisper. If I didn't have my PC to drown the noise I could make a muffler. My point is if you really want quit, you have some designing work to do and stick to your guns as there are down sides to purchasing this fan to say the S&P mix vent fans.

Patterson- I'm not going to even express an opinion on your setup (I haven't studied it to know), but I do know you would have what Micro growers consider to be a "jet engine noise coming from the cab/closet." Most of what you had said is irrelevant to the Micro style and feel most here would agree. I'd imagine you get some great yields and quality with that so I am by no means criticizing your design, but it would simply be way, way too loud. I know those S&P are rather quiet compared to In-lines, but you still can't move 250-300 CFM without hearing it without a muffler. My cabinet sits 3 feet from my computer and my PC with 1 120mm, 2 80m, and 1 92m easily drowns to the sound of it where I could have my cab in my closet behind the closing doors and would let anyone use my PC. They can't hear a damn thing!

Thanks for all the great info on air filtration. It is the last piece of my grow box puzzle Ive been trying to make fit. You have just given me my solution. I'm going to get myself one of the Panasonic Whispers. So I was wondering If you think my Idea of its placement and planned air flow for my two level design will work. It is inspired by Anti's air flow design. Any other thoughts on the setup will be welcome as well.

 

[JackSkellington]

Wish I had that option. If I did I'd probably try 2 6500k, 2 5100k and 2 2700k for veg and then just use 1-6500k and 1-5100k and 4-2700k during veg. As it is all I can find in 42 watts in my neck of woods is 2700k so that's what i'm using during veg as well. 6500k and/or 5100k would produce tighter nodes according to research. (Shorter/bushier)

thnx mayn thts exactly wat i nded to kno...now jst need to do it lol...n fer the 2 6500 n the 25100 n 2 2700 whch one wld you put tht one in flower room er veg??lol im thnkn flower but you said veg fer both thnx anti u the man

 

[Anti]

whch one wld you put tht one in flower room er veg??lol im thnkn flower but you said veg fer both thnx anti u the man

Generally it is suggested that you use 2700k light for FLOWERING and 5000k and above for VEG.

Since you had multiple choices, I suggested a mixture.

I'm using 2700k in veg because it's all i could find locally. If I had a choice, I'd be using a mixture of lights in veg and flower.

In flower, I'd use more 2700k and in veg I'd use more 5500k. The one I suggested to you was to use for veg. In flower, you'd probably want to use more of the 2700k and fewer of the 5500k and vice-versa in veg.

 

[Agent-Smith]

Man I hate reading posts where the person spells like a texting 10year old!

So Anti, how are the girls doing? Got an update?

 

[Anti]

UPDATE w/PICS! Day 27 (4 weeks since planting!)

UPDATE w/PICS! Day 27 (4 weeks since planting!)

Ok. So we're nearly at four whole weeks since the sproutling seeds went into the half & half containers. Here's our progress thus far:



First is a whole cab shot (of course.)
Second is closeup on left side.
Third is closeup on right side.
Fourth is a pic of my first AK to pop with her (fingers crossed) sisters on either side.

For scale, just remember that the half & half container is 3" square and 8" tall.

Bought the stuff for my carbon filter. Now I just need to assemble it. Gonna be a lot like RedGreenery's filter in this link here.

I'll put some pics of that stuff up as soon as I get it all put together.

OK. Now it's time for me to ask a question of all of the REVEGGERS who may be lurking in the house:

I started a ton of sprouts because I wasn't sure if everyone would survive.. and I was (kinda) right. 5 of 39 didn't make it to the top of the soil and 4 of the remaining 34 grew up about an inch and crispied on up and died or just sat there stunted doing nothing and got pulled.

There are 30 plants left and only a few of them are runty mongoloids.

There's just not gonna be room for all these plants if I clone them and sex the cuttings. And last time I tried to gauge the sex of my plants via pre-flowering indicators, I ended up with a batch of all male clones. So I don't wanna do that again.

I'm SERIOUSLY considering just flipping the whole cab over to 12/12 in the next day or two and then pulling the males when they pop up. Assuming a 50/50 ratio, that'd thin the herd considerably and get the containers back down to a state where I could start introducing clones and get ready for a perpetual run.

So the question is:

Do you think it'll be alright to switch to 12/12, pull males at first sign and run the whole thing through to harvest... then reveg everybody for moms?

I'm about 90% ready to just go with my gut and do it. What are your thoughts?

 

[Agent-Smith]

Simple answer.......yes, do it