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animal control wants to come to my house?

smokeyla1

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MY BAD! Sorry for not updating but everything was OK. I did clean house that night just in case and haven't got anything set back up yet as I've been back to work and working crazy OT (Major city union construction). Had a talk with AC who was pretty cool in person, normally would have let it slide but an elderly woman actually went into district and filed a complaint...not just a phone call to local pd so that's why the investigation.

Appreciate the help and info and don't worry my a$$hole is still tight and intact lol
 

smokeyla1

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Its a quiet older community and AC even said they have nothing better to do then put there nose in each others business, plus he is a big pit and although I know he's a big baby, he has the look of something fierce. She probably just got done watching news of some kid getting bit by one and decided she knows everything...who knows really. Gave me a nice scare though and has me cleaning up any loose ends of my small operation though.
 
smokeyla1 glad things are good and yeah nice one on keeping everyone in suspense.. i never even spoke to you on here and i was like "ohhh no he had drama"

and yeah always good to clean up all those lose ends aswell.
 
Apart from the op being safe I would like to comment on some other posts here: if a dog is aggressive to other dogs that is absolutely no reason to put that dog down. Jezus - would you put a god damn lion to sleep for attacking another lion? It's the owners responsibility to keep that dog away from other animals
Second of all dogs are not children and slapping them once in a while is perfectly all right.
 

shithawk420

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I agree its not a reason to put them down.its the owners responsibility. but DO NOT SLAP YOUR ANIMAL!! Did you read the thread? He didn't even touch his dog and was investigated.imagine what would happen if he did?cmon dude
 

nukklehead

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Apart from the op being safe I would like to comment on some other posts here: if a dog is aggressive to other dogs that is absolutely no reason to put that dog down. Jezus - would you put a god damn lion to sleep for attacking another lion? It's the owners responsibility to keep that dog away from other animals
Second of all dogs are not children and slapping them once in a while is perfectly all right.

Hell I think slapping my kids is more appropriate most of the times then slapping my dog... :biggrin:
 
I agree its not a reason to put them down.its the owners responsibility. but DO NOT SLAP YOUR ANIMAL!! Did you read the thread? He didn't even touch his dog and was investigated.imagine what would happen if he did?cmon dude

Ahh. YA know.. it's my job raising dogs and training them to be adequate dogs for hunter's companions. I know sometimes you have to stay ahead of the pack and show that you are the dominating male. I would never hurt any of my animals, which I own a great deal. Dogs are my life and my life is dogs... plus weeed hehehhe. :biggrin:

Don't get me wrong.
 

Pendleton

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Maybe we got you wrong when you advocated slapping a dog. I've some experience with trainimg GSD and other working dogs. I've never heard of anyone advocating physical force as a part of training or keeping one's place in the pecking order.
 

Stinkymutt

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I came home 2 weeks ago to find an animal control officers card in my door as well. Come to find out it was a simple misunderstanding. He had me on a list for unlicensed dogs. All my dogs are licensed and utd on shots. He had gone out back to look at the "conditions" they are outdoor hunting dogs that I take great care of but in one of the kennels are my medical plants. I expected a visit from sheriff anytime but nobody showed up. I had my med card hanging on fence so I assume he saw it and thats the end of it. Here the aco is not a part of law enforcement though and Ive met him on several occasions .
 

Green Squall

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I came home 2 weeks ago to find an animal control officers card in my door as well. Come to find out it was a simple misunderstanding. He had me on a list for unlicensed dogs. All my dogs are licensed and utd on shots. He had gone out back to look at the "conditions" they are outdoor hunting dogs that I take great care of but in one of the kennels are my medical plants. I expected a visit from sheriff anytime but nobody showed up. I had my med card hanging on fence so I assume he saw it and thats the end of it. Here the aco is not a part of law enforcement though and Ive met him on several occasions .

I haven't licensed my dog the last 3 or 4 years. Now I'm thinking maybe I should. I don't want anyone showing up at my house. He's up too date on all shots and his living conditions are excellent, but still. I wonder what they'll say when I show up and they realize he hasn't been licensed for a few years.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Ahh. YA know.. it's my job raising dogs and training them to be adequate dogs for hunter's companions. I know sometimes you have to stay ahead of the pack and show that you are the dominating male. I would never hurt any of my animals, which I own a great deal. Dogs are my life and my life is dogs... plus weeed hehehhe. :biggrin:

Don't get me wrong.

I used to be like you until I got my dog and he was the kind of dog who wouldn't put up with bullshit from anyone (despite being an inherently good guy).

There's no evidence to support pack theory, at all. The guy who wrote the original book on the subject, as well as all of the forceful negative reinforcement style techniques he taught has completely back tracked on that book and regretted ever writing it. He uses only positive reinforcement now. It's rare that a situation exists where positive reinforcement isn't more effective and a lot less risky. This has been well studied. Dogs (and other animals) learn faster and more repeatable behaviors this way.

If you do use negative reinforcement for something (let's say you want to walk off leash and your dog chases deer in a remote area - hard to have something more valuable to your dog than the deer) use a shock collar. The chances of your dog associating it with you are slim to none. Do not misuse it though and I would never use one of those bark collars either. Talk about cruel.

Hitting your dog isn't a good idea. Negative reinforcement can work, but a dogs window of association is so small the risk of him or her associating the punishment with you is quite high. Some dogs also do not react well to it. And it doesn't work as well. IMO many are starting to consider it legitimate abuse because it often is. My dog would likely attack you if you attempted a Cesar Millan style correction, straight up.

I understand you are well meaning. I was too. My dog taught me some things though. I thought I already knew what there was to know. I was wrong. And I'm not joking in saying he would attack you if you tried a typical correction (little poke in the side).
 

OGEvilgenius

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Cesar Milan is a piece of shit.I'd like to see him try that shit on my pit bull.great post OG

You can see that his own dogs are quite scared of him. It's sad really. A lot of what he does simply represses natural urges. For example growling - it's a warning sign before further escalation and while it may be offensive to hear as a human, it's a dogs way of communicating. He'd probably use negative reinforcement and quote un quote pack leader mentality to get it to stop - but stopping isn't necessarily good if done this way - it means it simply represses it. It means the dog has learned to skip growling if it wants to be heard. And it will go right to biting. This can and does happen. I'm sure you already know this though. The guy bothers me quite a bit. In part because he duped me.

Whereas with positive reinforcement you can get it to stop but you don't have to worry about him repressing his natural warning signs. Which you really do not want your dog to do.

Cheers man.
 

shithawk420

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By pack leader mentality do you mean the alpha male?if you don't mind me asking,what kind of dog do you have OG?Also Cesar Milan caters to suburbanites who want there dogs to be seen,not heard.they don't know the psychological damage they are doing to there dogs.I have a gift with dogs.they love me and will listen to me over their own masters depending on the breed.Ive raised skipperkeys and they are a one owner dog.even my other family members who Iived with me didn't have as much control over them as me
 

OGEvilgenius

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By pack leader mentality do you mean the alpha male?if you don't mind me asking,what kind of dog do you have OG?Also Cesar Milan caters to suburbanites who want there dogs to be seen,not heard.they don't know the psychological damage they are doing to there dogs.I have a gift with dogs.they love me and will listen to me over their own masters depending on the breed.Ive raised skipperkeys and they are a one owner dog.even my other family members who Iived with me didn't have as much control over them as me

Animals in general seem to like me as well. I am talking about alpha and pack theory yeah. It's not a primary motivation in your dogs behavior with you because dogs know you are not another dog. And it's not even that important in dog dog relationships.

He's a bullmastiff crossed with a king shepherd.
 
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