American weed is superior to dutch.

[Ca++]

Hmm real vanilla. The UK seafront donut huts have all been ruined by vanalin use. Further proving that most people can't taste anything. The sugar will be sweeteners before long, but I won't know, the donut stands are dead to me. My childhood can't be revisited.

Vanalin is essentially chemically extracted vanilla. It's a more complete extraction, but what you get is changed. To many, it's bitter taste overrides the right taste. There is no dose where it works. I wanted to make by cookie dough recipe more applicable to mass production, but it was just horrible. Yet most people couldn't tell any difference

 

[shithawk420]

theoretically if they are further concentrating vanilla into this vanalin wouldnt it have a significant amount of alcohol or am i being stupid and vanilla extract is different? this thread just got pretty interesting

 

[Ca++]

Technically it’s a double. So you do your wert then transfer to the bottle and add sugar for a secondary fermention which creates the carbonation.

Edit: this is for home brew and the secondary fermentation only adds a 1/2% Or so to the brew

That's a sugar wash. You could reach over 20% but the ale is only there as water. The yeast no longer needs to break down the already depleted sugars in the ale. So can be one that just targets the table sugars. Though there are no ale flavours now being created. Just off tastes. As it's table sugar. Not malts.

 

[Ca++]

theoretically if they are further concentrating vanilla into this vanalin wouldnt it have a significant amount of alcohol or am i being stupid and vanilla extract is different? this thread just got pretty interesting

I think vanilla is pulped out, but vanalin is grinding up the seeds and everything, then stripping it.
To liken it to green, somebody is tumbling for hashish, and then someone is making oil with a long iso soak of the waste. I don't like iso extractions. I do like hash. It's not worth telling me it's still cannabis.

I was cooking, so didn't get really deep into the science. Just enough to see where it was going wrong. iso donuts. yuck.

 

[Dime]

The dutch didn't have any good weed until American sourced weed arrived.

 

[shithawk420]

I think vanilla is pulped out, but vanalin is grinding up the seeds and everything, then stripping it.
To liken it to green, somebody is tumbling for hashish, and then someone is making oil with a long iso soak of the waste. I don't like iso extractions. I do like hash. It's not worth telling me it's still cannabis.

I was cooking, so didn't get really deep into the science. Just enough to see where it was going wrong. iso donuts. yuck.

i dont like iso hash either. i wouldnt even call it hash.ive been up all night. i gotta take a nap to tackle all this. thanks for the info

 

[mexcurandero420]

The dutch didn't have any good weed until American sourced weed arrived.

Hashish what most was used, mixed with tobacco. Weed from Africa, Jamaica, Indonesia was available.

 

[Dime]

Hashish what most was used, mixed with tobacco. Weed from Africa, Jamaica, Indonesia was available.

Yeah tobacco with weed was common ,the biggest market for weed was in the US so it stands to reason the best went there chasing the money. Nothing really exciting came out of Holland until sk#1 was introduced

 

[mexcurandero420]

It all started with the Seed Bank from Nevil and S.S.S.C.
Old Ed came in 1979 & Sam in 1984 to the Netherlands.

Since 1976 drug policy was changed and that gave a chance for coffeeshop development & the rise of the seed banks and of course a lot of cultivation with raids unfortunately.

1986

1988

 

[RequiredUsername]

Yeah tobacco with weed was common ,the biggest market for weed was in the US so it stands to reason the best went there chasing the money. Nothing really exciting came out of Holland until sk#1 was introduced

Skunk#1 is a strain that's mixed with every cannabis strain they can find so in the future they can claim skunk#1 is the source of all other cannabis and they own the patent. Skunk#1 is bound to be mediocre at best. Skunk was a term used to indicate any of several aromatic varieties of the 60s and 70s. Just like in the 90s we called indica Dank. It was easier to ask a stranger if they knew where the skunk could be found, rather than ask where to buy weed. Never know who you are talking to. And these skunky varieties were from columbian, Acapulco, mexican, afghan and the crosses and hybrids kept the aromatic skunky smell. After a while dealers had a hard time selling it because you couldn't hide it. So people not wanting to get in trouble often turned it down. Making it harder to sell. Naturally it fell away as basicly too risky during the drug war. Enter northern lights, and stealth. This whole skunk BS is just marketing of a product. That's why so many sheep are screaming we want skunk. They arent even old enough to know what skunk was. Why the fug would they want it? Marketing. God. Oldies want it because the weed today is all brown like that study proved. It's either A,B, or C. They miss what's missing. Long hard hitting effects, slit eyes, red eyes, goofiest, or the psychedelic weed, medical weed. This junk genetics widely available has left people feeling like something went wrong. It just vanished with 30 years of bad breeding practices. Still in the hands if collectors and breeder/caretakers. Thankfully.

Hey buddy, I got Dank#1 seeds if you want em. Get you some Dank babyyyyyyyy!

 

[Ca++]

Skunk#1 is still relevant today, and doing the rounds with new names attached, so the kids can embrace it as theirs.

 

[Chi13]

The dutch didn't have any good weed until American sourced weed arrived.

The Americans didn't have good weed until it was sourced elsewhere either.

At least the Europeans had the good sense to recognise that haze was a great high, while the US concentrated on indica's that smell like lollies, and knock you down couchlock highs (or lows).

 

[cbotany]

The Americans didn't have good weed until it was sourced elsewhere either.

At least the Europeans had the good sense to recognise that haze was a great high, while the US concentrated on indica's that smell like lollies, and knock you down couchlock highs (or lows).

I'm curious if you've taken into account cannabis in mexico? The've had cannabis before the central us.

 

[Chi13]

I'm curious if you've taken into account cannabis in mexico? The've had cannabis before the central us.

I think "sourced elsewhere" pretty much covers Mexico.

My comment wasn't meant to be that serious, just an observation that the US seems more geared toward fast flowering, lolly flavoured short lived narcotic highs.

Of course, Aussie weed was much better than either European or US.

 

[Ca++]

Does Australia have landrace, or did the English take it there to.

 

[cbotany]

Skunk#1 is a strain that's mixed with every cannabis strain they can find so in the future they can claim skunk#1 is the source of all other cannabis and they own the patent. Skunk#1 is bound to be mediocre at best. Skunk was a term used to indicate any of several aromatic varieties of the 60s and 70s. Just like in the 90s we called indica Dank. It was easier to ask a stranger if they knew where the skunk could be found, rather than ask where to buy weed. Never know who you are talking to. And these skunky varieties were from columbian, Acapulco, mexican, afghan and the crosses and hybrids kept the aromatic skunky smell. After a while dealers had a hard time selling it because you couldn't hide it. So people not wanting to get in trouble often turned it down. Making it harder to sell. Naturally it fell away as basicly too risky during the drug war. Enter northern lights, and stealth. This whole skunk BS is just marketing of a product. That's why so many sheep are screaming we want skunk. They arent even old enough to know what skunk was. Why the fug would they want it? Marketing. God. Oldies want it because the weed today is all brown like that study proved. It's either A,B, or C. They miss what's missing. Long hard hitting effects, slit eyes, red eyes, goofiest, or the psychedelic weed, medical weed. This junk genetics widely available has left people feeling like something went wrong. It just vanished with 30 years of bad breeding practices. Still in the hands if collectors and breeder/caretakers. Thankfully.

Hey buddy, I got Dank#1 seeds if you want em. Get you some Dank babyyyyyyyy!

I really like skunk 1, and its solid for breeding... I've outbred a small bit of the ag seed co skunk 1, and I have no complaints. Skunk is bred so much because its just a solid strain. Skunk, and the super sativa seed company basically made cannabis what it is today. The skunk cross I just made brings out the colombian and the more psydelic side of skunk, but it makes you kinda couchlocked with a free brain... almost to the point of being overwhelming for maybe 15-20 minutes...The other cross has a more "mellow" "day smoke" "mid" kinda feel that great for just rolling up some weed, I went through that batch pretty fast. Breeding is hit and miss but I'm enjoying this enough to reveg a plant... The problem with psydelic weed is it can be overwhelming when you just want to veg out, I gave seeds away of a strain i called space cadet and I'm telling you bud, you smoke that shit and the time dilation will fuck with you, It was clean, but its not something you want to daily smoke. I choose to smoke the "mid mellow" skunk over it almost daily. I love psydelic weed. I love skunk, alot of the things you've said I would of probably said when I first started growing. You can't really say any weed is good or bad weed unless you gave it a try... If I can find seeds of the "space cadet" I'll give them to you... but when I tell you something with fuck with you, I'm not lying. Alot of people in legal states still have a "guy" and that "guy" has interesting weed. The markets kinda deverse... But you're right alot of weed grown is for mass appeal. Thats why home growing exist.

 

[cbotany]

I think "sourced elsewhere" pretty much covers Mexico.

My comment wasn't meant to be that serious, just an observation that the US seems more geared toward fast flowering, lolly flavoured short lived narcotic highs.

Of course, Aussie weed was much better than either European or US.

People really like runts, but we have a huge variety of cannabis. Some of the sweets are good, I kinda like a certain effect. I do not think og kush done right is a short high, but to each their own. Aussie has a bunch of cool landrace breeding stock that came in very early, your mail system is TIGHT. Its probbly why you're not seeing some of the longer laster strains coming in, has anyone brought in any rare dankness their yet? I know they have medical? I'd love to see some of those long flowering bush weed plants crossed over to some of raredankness gear. I like aussie hybrids, so I don't think aussieland is out of the question when it comes to bud.

 

[Brother Nature]

The Nommo have the best weed…

 

[cbotany]

Hashish what most was used, mixed with tobacco. Weed from Africa, Jamaica, Indonesia was available.

You got any of that jamican rum weed brown brick left? Come on bubba, don't hold out on me lol... I've been looking for pre-2010 bag seed from jamaica, I hear its like low thc, but very nice

 

[Chi13]

Does Australia have landrace, or did the English take it there to.

The English brought Hemp in the 1800s, but really anything smokable was imported from about the 1960s on. The thing is, nearly all of it was Asian; Thai, Indonesian, Indian, etc.

I'd been growing 10 years before I saw a hash plant.