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CaptainDankness
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I think you meant FUCK SOCIALISTS!! They can't touch middle America.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKcnGJPLvN0
M
moose eater
Many of the changes in this country, and our relationship to the rest of the world, go back WAY before 9/11, canna. 9/11 simply gave the fascists, globalists, and tyrants cause to pull out the stops.
Most/many of the extra-legal authorities in the USA PA had been requested at one time or another by federal law enforcement and others, over the 50 years (+/-) that preceded 9/11. And few Congress critters actually read what they passed in that bill; over 400 pages delivered over-night, with no real reviews or debate to speak of. My 'crew' up here received the 22nd resolution in the United States, opposing or questioning the USA PA from what ended up being an all-Republican City Council. But over time, everyone tends to accept those things that should be cause for revolution in the streets. Such are the forces of conformity, fear, and time.
When Oliver North was being questioned in front of a Congressional Committee re. Iran Contra, allegations that persons flying weapons to the Contras had been returning with coke on-board from Honduran, Costa Rican, and Panamanian air-strips, with the provision of weapons occurring in defiance of Congress' earlier mandate of "thou shalt not.." in re. to that 'war,' the phrase was used in that inquiry re. a "shadow government" (a non-branch of the U.S Government, within the government, that existed beyond any administration, and that functioned under its own authority, absent public or congressional approval.
When this line of inquiry began, the media and observers were booted from the proceedings. Why?
Look at our use of force as a Nation in all kinds of 2nd and 3rd world countries back during the Reagan Administration, and before.. Hell, look at how Hawaii became a property of the U.S.!! Research both conventional military force and covert ops in countries where we had no legitimate authority to be. Including the coup we helped to sponsor in Chile, that resulted in the death of their duly elected Allende', and the installation of Pinochet, who went on to be quite the dictator, but was more friendly to our multi-national corporations... And that's what has mattered all along.. right?
9/11 simply made it OK to do this shit in daylight, because so many persons were feeling outrageous levels of righteous indignation. but hubris and pride are real sins. They block persons from seeing what the fuck is going on, and makes what would otherwise be really wrong things to seem OK.
Our 'School of the Americas' in Georgia, where folks from Central America were trained to "fight the evils of communism" in El Salvador and Nicaragua, and those grads we trained went on to rape and murder nuns in those places. National pride?
There's volumes of stuff to read about our betrayal of the values we claim to espouse as a Country. It's heart-breaking to anyone who loves the dream of America and its ideals, to know what we've done in the name of false righteousness, and how many enemies we've made that we didn't need to. Betrayals to our values that now make it unsafe for us to travel abroad in -so- many places, and it's been heading that way for 40-50 years now.
We HAVE to stop playing the game of "my enemy's enemy is my friend." It has left us with no sense of morality as a nation where international relations are concerned.
Now I'm back to late-night packing; lots to do yet, and my metabolism seems to be ALL fucked up from the earlier efforts.
"Burn down the mission, if we're gonna' stay alive.... Watch the black smoke rise to Heaven... " (Elton John)
Most/many of the extra-legal authorities in the USA PA had been requested at one time or another by federal law enforcement and others, over the 50 years (+/-) that preceded 9/11. And few Congress critters actually read what they passed in that bill; over 400 pages delivered over-night, with no real reviews or debate to speak of. My 'crew' up here received the 22nd resolution in the United States, opposing or questioning the USA PA from what ended up being an all-Republican City Council. But over time, everyone tends to accept those things that should be cause for revolution in the streets. Such are the forces of conformity, fear, and time.
When Oliver North was being questioned in front of a Congressional Committee re. Iran Contra, allegations that persons flying weapons to the Contras had been returning with coke on-board from Honduran, Costa Rican, and Panamanian air-strips, with the provision of weapons occurring in defiance of Congress' earlier mandate of "thou shalt not.." in re. to that 'war,' the phrase was used in that inquiry re. a "shadow government" (a non-branch of the U.S Government, within the government, that existed beyond any administration, and that functioned under its own authority, absent public or congressional approval.
When this line of inquiry began, the media and observers were booted from the proceedings. Why?
Look at our use of force as a Nation in all kinds of 2nd and 3rd world countries back during the Reagan Administration, and before.. Hell, look at how Hawaii became a property of the U.S.!! Research both conventional military force and covert ops in countries where we had no legitimate authority to be. Including the coup we helped to sponsor in Chile, that resulted in the death of their duly elected Allende', and the installation of Pinochet, who went on to be quite the dictator, but was more friendly to our multi-national corporations... And that's what has mattered all along.. right?
9/11 simply made it OK to do this shit in daylight, because so many persons were feeling outrageous levels of righteous indignation. but hubris and pride are real sins. They block persons from seeing what the fuck is going on, and makes what would otherwise be really wrong things to seem OK.
Our 'School of the Americas' in Georgia, where folks from Central America were trained to "fight the evils of communism" in El Salvador and Nicaragua, and those grads we trained went on to rape and murder nuns in those places. National pride?
There's volumes of stuff to read about our betrayal of the values we claim to espouse as a Country. It's heart-breaking to anyone who loves the dream of America and its ideals, to know what we've done in the name of false righteousness, and how many enemies we've made that we didn't need to. Betrayals to our values that now make it unsafe for us to travel abroad in -so- many places, and it's been heading that way for 40-50 years now.
We HAVE to stop playing the game of "my enemy's enemy is my friend." It has left us with no sense of morality as a nation where international relations are concerned.
Now I'm back to late-night packing; lots to do yet, and my metabolism seems to be ALL fucked up from the earlier efforts.
"Burn down the mission, if we're gonna' stay alive.... Watch the black smoke rise to Heaven... " (Elton John)
The Commission
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"The greater medical establishment is still quite likely to label teenagers with temporary psychedelic psychosis as "bipolar paranoid schizophrenic," load the poor kids up on Haldol or Thorazine until they twitch and drool, and mark them for life with a label they will never live down. You would think that they would know by now that most LSD-stoned people get it back together over a period of time and don't need heroic measures as much as they need support and love while they recover from their visionary experiences and re-enter ordinary life." -Stephen Gaskin
kickarse
Active member
No I mean Fabian socialists, ask Gypsy he knows who they areI think you meant FUCK SOCIALISTS!! They can't touch middle America.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKcnGJPLvN0
CaptainDankness
Well-known member
All I want to know is why the Presidents don't fight the wars? Why do they always send the poor!?!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM
The Commission
New member
I don't remember much from school but in History books, all groups in power had a ruling period.
The Commission
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How much of America is built on drugs/drug money (both sides of the law)
Very good post again moose eater.
Lets look at why two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan back in 1945....Was it just simply to try and end the war, or was it because the Russians/Soviets were about to invade Japan and the USA did not want the Russians invading Japan before the USA got in there to make that land-grab?.
The Soviets/Russians had already beaten the USA and Allies to Berlin, while invading Germany from the East, and Stalin had the troops and ability to mount a military invasion of Japan in 1945, and could have arrived in Tokyo long before the USA might have been able to using conventional military methods......without the use of these two atom bombs.
Lets look at why two atomic bombs were dropped on Japan back in 1945....Was it just simply to try and end the war, or was it because the Russians/Soviets were about to invade Japan and the USA did not want the Russians invading Japan before the USA got in there to make that land-grab?.
The Soviets/Russians had already beaten the USA and Allies to Berlin, while invading Germany from the East, and Stalin had the troops and ability to mount a military invasion of Japan in 1945, and could have arrived in Tokyo long before the USA might have been able to using conventional military methods......without the use of these two atom bombs.
Many of the changes in this country, and our relationship to the rest of the world, go back WAY before 9/11, canna. 9/11 simply gave the fascists, globalists, and tyrants cause to pull out the stops.
Most/many of the extra-legal authorities in the USA PA had been requested at one time or another by federal law enforcement and others, over the 50 years (+/-) that preceded 9/11. And few Congress critters actually read what they passed in that bill; over 400 pages delivered over-night, with no real reviews or debate to speak of. My 'crew' up here received the 22nd resolution in the United States, opposing or questioning the USA PA from what ended up being an all-Republican City Council. But over time, everyone tends to accept those things that should be cause for revolution in the streets. Such are the forces of conformity, fear, and time.
When Oliver North was being questioned in front of a Congressional Committee re. Iran Contra, allegations that persons flying weapons to the Contras had been returning with coke on-board from Honduran, Costa Rican, and Panamanian air-strips, with the provision of weapons occurring in defiance of Congress' earlier mandate of "thou shalt not.." in re. to that 'war,' the phrase was used in that inquiry re. a "shadow government" (a non-branch of the U.S Government, within the government, that existed beyond any administration, and that functioned under its own authority, absent public or congressional approval.
When this line of inquiry began, the media and observers were booted from the proceedings. Why?
Look at our use of force as a Nation in all kinds of 2nd and 3rd world countries back during the Reagan Administration, and before.. Hell, look at how Hawaii became a property of the U.S.!! Research both conventional military force and covert ops in countries where we had no legitimate authority to be. Including the coup we helped to sponsor in Chile, that resulted in the death of their duly elected Allende', and the installation of Pinochet, who went on to be quite the dictator, but was more friendly to our multi-national corporations... And that's what has mattered all along.. right?
9/11 simply made it OK to do this shit in daylight, because so many persons were feeling outrageous levels of righteous indignation. but hubris and pride are real sins. They block persons from seeing what the fuck is going on, and makes what would otherwise be really wrong things to seem OK.
Our 'School of the Americas' in Georgia, where folks from Central America were trained to "fight the evils of communism" in El Salvador and Nicaragua, and those grads we trained went on to rape and murder nuns in those places. National pride?
There's volumes of stuff to read about our betrayal of the values we claim to espouse as a Country. It's heart-breaking to anyone who loves the dream of America and its ideals, to know what we've done in the name of false righteousness, and how many enemies we've made that we didn't need to. Betrayals to our values that now make it unsafe for us to travel abroad in -so- many places, and it's been heading that way for 40-50 years now.
We HAVE to stop playing the game of "my enemy's enemy is my friend." It has left us with no sense of morality as a nation where international relations are concerned.
Now I'm back to late-night packing; lots to do yet, and my metabolism seems to be ALL fucked up from the earlier efforts.
"Burn down the mission, if we're gonna' stay alive.... Watch the black smoke rise to Heaven... " (Elton John)
The Commission
New member
Look for population reduction next. You might think you are fighting for something someone else has bigger plans for. I see a few examples on a small scale now but I think bigger things are coming.
M
moose eater
Hitler promised England & the U.S. to honor boundaries, including Eastern Europe, and as long as 'commerce as usual' wasn't interrupted, then what he did elsewhere, even if he'd promised not to, wasn't too important.
Henry Ford and others (I think including past patriarchs in the Bush family if I recall correctly?) were doing lots of business, both banking and production, with the Third Reich, and Japan had made some gestures that they'd play nice as well. Like PeeWee Herman crossing his fingers behind his back, and feigning an apology.
There's been debate as to how much was assumed or known in advance re. the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, as well.
Money -often- takes precedent over righteousness in this supposed 'Christian Nation.'
I strongly suspect that our cold war had as much to do with global control of resources (and their acquisition/extraction) and capital/$$$, as the whole neo-Paul Revere, and "The commies are coming!!! The commies are coming!!!!"
A former legislator up here, who I admired a fair bit, now deceased years ago, used to say, "Money makes the mare/mayor go." I asked a close family member of his once which spelling of (mayor/mare) he was likely intending, and we agreed that either one worked well for the intended purpose.
Henry Ford and others (I think including past patriarchs in the Bush family if I recall correctly?) were doing lots of business, both banking and production, with the Third Reich, and Japan had made some gestures that they'd play nice as well. Like PeeWee Herman crossing his fingers behind his back, and feigning an apology.
There's been debate as to how much was assumed or known in advance re. the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, as well.
Money -often- takes precedent over righteousness in this supposed 'Christian Nation.'
I strongly suspect that our cold war had as much to do with global control of resources (and their acquisition/extraction) and capital/$$$, as the whole neo-Paul Revere, and "The commies are coming!!! The commies are coming!!!!"
A former legislator up here, who I admired a fair bit, now deceased years ago, used to say, "Money makes the mare/mayor go." I asked a close family member of his once which spelling of (mayor/mare) he was likely intending, and we agreed that either one worked well for the intended purpose.
M
moose eater
"To the victors go the spoils."
Rights of Conquest still go on. Look at the Ramallah Oil Fields in Iraq, where BP had been given the boot by Saddam.
People get all caught up in the "we (the U.S.) weren't even importing THAT oil!!" in refuting assertions that the war was, in great part, based in oil field control (as well as GW having a hard-on for the guy that allegedly tried to kill his Daddy). What they fail to see is that the 'favor' was done not for the oil and who would receive it, but for BP, as a closely aligned economic force to the powers in the White House, and to Oligarch-tainted governments aligned with the U.S.
Sometimes the 'bribes are less direct than folks assume and seek to find. But rights of conquest and favors for one's poker buddies still matter.
Rights of Conquest still go on. Look at the Ramallah Oil Fields in Iraq, where BP had been given the boot by Saddam.
People get all caught up in the "we (the U.S.) weren't even importing THAT oil!!" in refuting assertions that the war was, in great part, based in oil field control (as well as GW having a hard-on for the guy that allegedly tried to kill his Daddy). What they fail to see is that the 'favor' was done not for the oil and who would receive it, but for BP, as a closely aligned economic force to the powers in the White House, and to Oligarch-tainted governments aligned with the U.S.
Sometimes the 'bribes are less direct than folks assume and seek to find. But rights of conquest and favors for one's poker buddies still matter.
Five myths about the atomic bomb
Gregg Herken is an emeritus professor of U.S. diplomatic history at the University of California and the author of “The Winning Weapon: The Atomic Bomb in the Cold War” and “Brotherhood of the Bomb: The Tangled Lives and Loyalties of Robert Oppenheimer, Ernest Lawrence, and Edward Teller.” As a Smithsonian curator in 1995, he participated in early planning for the National Air and Space Museum’s Enola Gay exhibit.
On Aug. 6, 1945, the United States dropped an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Another bomb fell Aug. 9 on Nagasaki. Decades later, controversy and misinformation still surround the decision to use nuclear weapons during World War II. The 70th anniversary of the event presents an opportunity to set the record straight on five widely held myths about the bomb.
1. The bomb ended the war.
The notion that the atomic bombs caused the Japanese surrender on Aug. 15, 1945, has been, for many Americans and virtually all U.S. history textbooks, the default understanding of how and why the war ended. But minutes of the meetings of the Japanese government reveal a more complex story. The latest and best scholarship on the surrender, based on Japanese records, concludes that the Soviet Union’s unexpected entry into the war against Japan on Aug. 8 was probably an even greater shock to Tokyo than the atomic bombing of Hiroshima two days earlier. Until then, the Japanese had been hoping that the Russians — who had previously signed a nonaggression pact with Japan — might be intermediaries in negotiating an end to the war . As historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa writes in his book “Racing the Enemy,” “Indeed, Soviet attack, not the Hiroshima bomb, convinced political leaders to end the war.” The two events together — plus the dropping of the second atomic bomb on Aug. 9 — were decisive in making the case for surrender.
Gregg Herken is an emeritus professor of U.S. diplomatic history at the University of California and the author of “The Winning Weapon: The Atomic Bomb in the Cold War” and “Brotherhood of the Bomb: The Tangled Lives and Loyalties of Robert Oppenheimer, Ernest Lawrence, and Edward Teller.” As a Smithsonian curator in 1995, he participated in early planning for the National Air and Space Museum’s Enola Gay exhibit.
On Aug. 6, 1945, the United States dropped an atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Another bomb fell Aug. 9 on Nagasaki. Decades later, controversy and misinformation still surround the decision to use nuclear weapons during World War II. The 70th anniversary of the event presents an opportunity to set the record straight on five widely held myths about the bomb.
1. The bomb ended the war.
The notion that the atomic bombs caused the Japanese surrender on Aug. 15, 1945, has been, for many Americans and virtually all U.S. history textbooks, the default understanding of how and why the war ended. But minutes of the meetings of the Japanese government reveal a more complex story. The latest and best scholarship on the surrender, based on Japanese records, concludes that the Soviet Union’s unexpected entry into the war against Japan on Aug. 8 was probably an even greater shock to Tokyo than the atomic bombing of Hiroshima two days earlier. Until then, the Japanese had been hoping that the Russians — who had previously signed a nonaggression pact with Japan — might be intermediaries in negotiating an end to the war . As historian Tsuyoshi Hasegawa writes in his book “Racing the Enemy,” “Indeed, Soviet attack, not the Hiroshima bomb, convinced political leaders to end the war.” The two events together — plus the dropping of the second atomic bomb on Aug. 9 — were decisive in making the case for surrender.
2. The bomb saved half a million American lives
In his postwar memoirs, former president Harry Truman recalled how military leaders had told him that a half-million Americans might be killed in an invasion of Japan. This figure has become canonical among those seeking to justify the bombing. But it is not supported by military estimates of the time. As Stanford historian Barton Bernstein has noted, the U.S. Joint War Plans Committee predicted in mid-June 1945 that the invasion of Japan, set to begin Nov. 1, would result in 193,000 U.S. casualties, including 40,000 deaths.
But, as Truman also observed after the war, if he had not used the atomic bomb when it was ready and GIs had died on the invasion beaches, he would have faced the righteous wrath of the American people.
In his postwar memoirs, former president Harry Truman recalled how military leaders had told him that a half-million Americans might be killed in an invasion of Japan. This figure has become canonical among those seeking to justify the bombing. But it is not supported by military estimates of the time. As Stanford historian Barton Bernstein has noted, the U.S. Joint War Plans Committee predicted in mid-June 1945 that the invasion of Japan, set to begin Nov. 1, would result in 193,000 U.S. casualties, including 40,000 deaths.
But, as Truman also observed after the war, if he had not used the atomic bomb when it was ready and GIs had died on the invasion beaches, he would have faced the righteous wrath of the American people.
3. The only alternative to the bomb was an invasion of Japan.
The decision to use nuclear weapons is usually presented as either/or: either drop the bomb or land on the beaches. But beyond simply continuing the conventional bombing and naval blockade of Japan, there were two other options recognized at the time.
The first was a demonstration of the atomic bomb prior to or instead of its military use: exploding the bomb on an uninhabited island or in the desert, in front of invited observers from Japan and other countries; or using it to blow the top off Mount Fuji, outside Tokyo. The demonstration option was rejected for practical reasons. There were only two bombs available in August 1945, and the demonstration bomb might turn out to be a dud.
The second alternative was accepting a conditional surrender by Japan. The United States knew from intercepted communications that the Japanese were most concerned that Emperor Hirohito not be treated as a war criminal. The “emperor clause” was the final obstacle to Japan’s capitulation. (President Franklin Roosevelt had insisted upon unconditional surrender, and Truman reiterated that demand after Roosevelt’s death in mid-April 1945.)
Although the United States ultimately got Japan’s unconditional surrender, the emperor clause was, in effect, granted after the fact. “I have no desire whatever to debase [Hirohito] in the eyes of his own people,” Gen. Douglas MacArthur, supreme commander of the Allied powers in Japan after the war, assured Tokyo’s diplomats following the surrender.
The decision to use nuclear weapons is usually presented as either/or: either drop the bomb or land on the beaches. But beyond simply continuing the conventional bombing and naval blockade of Japan, there were two other options recognized at the time.
The first was a demonstration of the atomic bomb prior to or instead of its military use: exploding the bomb on an uninhabited island or in the desert, in front of invited observers from Japan and other countries; or using it to blow the top off Mount Fuji, outside Tokyo. The demonstration option was rejected for practical reasons. There were only two bombs available in August 1945, and the demonstration bomb might turn out to be a dud.
The second alternative was accepting a conditional surrender by Japan. The United States knew from intercepted communications that the Japanese were most concerned that Emperor Hirohito not be treated as a war criminal. The “emperor clause” was the final obstacle to Japan’s capitulation. (President Franklin Roosevelt had insisted upon unconditional surrender, and Truman reiterated that demand after Roosevelt’s death in mid-April 1945.)
Although the United States ultimately got Japan’s unconditional surrender, the emperor clause was, in effect, granted after the fact. “I have no desire whatever to debase [Hirohito] in the eyes of his own people,” Gen. Douglas MacArthur, supreme commander of the Allied powers in Japan after the war, assured Tokyo’s diplomats following the surrender.
4. The Japanese were warned before the bomb was dropped.
The United States had dropped leaflets over many Japanese cities, urging civilians to flee, before hitting them with conventional bombs. After the Potsdam Declaration of July 26, 1945, which called on the Japanese to surrender, leaflets warned of “prompt and utter destruction” unless Japan heeded that order. In a radio address, Truman also told of a coming “rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this Earth.” These actions have led many to believe that civilians were meaningfully warned of the pending nuclear attack. Indeed, a common refrain in letters to the editor and debates about the bomb is: “The Japanese were warned.”
But there was never any specific warning to the cities that had been chosen as targets for the atomic bomb prior to the weapon’s first use. The omission was deliberate: The United States feared that the Japanese, being forewarned, would shoot down the planes carrying the bombs. And since Japanese cities were already being destroyed by incendiary and high-explosive bombs on a regular basis — nearly 100,000 people were killed the previous March in the firebombing of Tokyo — there was no reason to believe that either the Potsdam Declaration or Truman’s speech would receive special notice.
The United States had dropped leaflets over many Japanese cities, urging civilians to flee, before hitting them with conventional bombs. After the Potsdam Declaration of July 26, 1945, which called on the Japanese to surrender, leaflets warned of “prompt and utter destruction” unless Japan heeded that order. In a radio address, Truman also told of a coming “rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this Earth.” These actions have led many to believe that civilians were meaningfully warned of the pending nuclear attack. Indeed, a common refrain in letters to the editor and debates about the bomb is: “The Japanese were warned.”
But there was never any specific warning to the cities that had been chosen as targets for the atomic bomb prior to the weapon’s first use. The omission was deliberate: The United States feared that the Japanese, being forewarned, would shoot down the planes carrying the bombs. And since Japanese cities were already being destroyed by incendiary and high-explosive bombs on a regular basis — nearly 100,000 people were killed the previous March in the firebombing of Tokyo — there was no reason to believe that either the Potsdam Declaration or Truman’s speech would receive special notice.
5. The bomb was timed to gain a diplomatic advantage over Russia and proved a “master card” in early Cold War politics.
This claim has been a staple of revisionist historiography, which argues that U.S. policymakers hoped the bomb might end the war against Japan before the Soviet entry into the conflict gave the Russians a significant role in a postwar peace settlement. Using the bomb would also impress the Russians with the power of the new weapon, which the United States had alone.
In reality, military planning, not diplomatic advantage, dictated the timing of the atomic attacks. The bombs were ordered to be dropped “as soon as made ready.”
Postwar political considerations did affect the choice of targets for the atomic bombs. Secretary of War Henry Stimson ordered that the historically and culturally significant city of Kyoto be stricken from the target list. (Stimson was personally familiar with Kyoto; he and his wife had spent part of their honeymoon there.) Truman agreed, according to Stimson, on the grounds that “the bitterness which would be caused by such a wanton act might make it impossible during the long postwar period to reconcile the Japanese to us in that area rather than to the Russians.”
Like Stimson, Truman’s secretary of state, James Byrnes, hoped that the bomb might prove to be a “master card” in subsequent diplomatic dealings with the Soviet Union — but both were disappointed. In September 1945, Byrnes returned from the first postwar meeting of foreign ministers, in London, lamenting that the Russians were “stubborn, obstinate, and they don’t scare.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...df005a0fb28_story.html?utm_term=.ed00e85e7e83
This claim has been a staple of revisionist historiography, which argues that U.S. policymakers hoped the bomb might end the war against Japan before the Soviet entry into the conflict gave the Russians a significant role in a postwar peace settlement. Using the bomb would also impress the Russians with the power of the new weapon, which the United States had alone.
In reality, military planning, not diplomatic advantage, dictated the timing of the atomic attacks. The bombs were ordered to be dropped “as soon as made ready.”
Postwar political considerations did affect the choice of targets for the atomic bombs. Secretary of War Henry Stimson ordered that the historically and culturally significant city of Kyoto be stricken from the target list. (Stimson was personally familiar with Kyoto; he and his wife had spent part of their honeymoon there.) Truman agreed, according to Stimson, on the grounds that “the bitterness which would be caused by such a wanton act might make it impossible during the long postwar period to reconcile the Japanese to us in that area rather than to the Russians.”
Like Stimson, Truman’s secretary of state, James Byrnes, hoped that the bomb might prove to be a “master card” in subsequent diplomatic dealings with the Soviet Union — but both were disappointed. In September 1945, Byrnes returned from the first postwar meeting of foreign ministers, in London, lamenting that the Russians were “stubborn, obstinate, and they don’t scare.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...df005a0fb28_story.html?utm_term=.ed00e85e7e83
kickarse
Active member
In my country, every labor PM since WW2 has been a Fabian
every labour PM in England for the last 100+ years
has been a Fabian
Why doesn't anyone know who the fuck these people are
and what they stand for
talk about leading the sheep to slaughter, FFS
R
Rubber Chicken
When i'm high i feel like i can talk to my dogs.....
One of them has been constantly sitting at the back door for 3 days with anxiety, half growling.
I think he hears a firecracker sound from somewhere.
He knows he's not supposed to bark and he tries to hold it in but he just can't seem to help himself... it has been driving me crazy because i get bad anxiety because he's anxious and vice versa i guess.
I had tried the being nice method and the spraying water method and i even slapped his muzzle (i know it's not right, but it's not hard) and nothing worked until i tried clapping loudly and it seemed to snap him out of his weird state and he sat on hi couch and looked relaxed.
Anyway
It felt like i just couldn't get into his mind to understand it was nothing to worry about.
Until i got high, and then i felt like i could communicate
Nothing to do with America, but whatever...... maybe someone likes my story.
One of them has been constantly sitting at the back door for 3 days with anxiety, half growling.
I think he hears a firecracker sound from somewhere.
He knows he's not supposed to bark and he tries to hold it in but he just can't seem to help himself... it has been driving me crazy because i get bad anxiety because he's anxious and vice versa i guess.
I had tried the being nice method and the spraying water method and i even slapped his muzzle (i know it's not right, but it's not hard) and nothing worked until i tried clapping loudly and it seemed to snap him out of his weird state and he sat on hi couch and looked relaxed.
Anyway
It felt like i just couldn't get into his mind to understand it was nothing to worry about.Until i got high, and then i felt like i could communicate
Nothing to do with America, but whatever...... maybe someone likes my story.
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