America

[CaptainDankness]

I dunno.....maybe I was raised in a place and time where most estrogen and progesterone around me was in my Mum and sister......(that's why they always cried a lot).....and not in the cows milk, or in soybeans/tofu/soy milk etc....

These days it looks like hormonally men are getting ever closer to being more like my Mum and sister....yes, we can laugh...but it is quite shocking.

For real I've been saying it for years, we are witnessing the pussifacation of America. Lol

Thankfully it's mostly a California thing, but unfortunately they control Hollywood which hits the entire country a little bit. We would just call trans people like it is, ladyboys. But no you can't even say someone is retarded anymore. Lol

The soyboys would take over if they weren't so pussified.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Just noticed that judgement and division are still cool.

I guess we have another three years of that.

 

[CaptainDankness]

lol or maybe your can't accept that your actions negatively effect people including yourself which accounts for your defective notion that making fun of religions and sexuality is any different from being racists

nfn not only did I spend years doing heavy construction but you where never in the shape I was unless you where 235 and under 10% body fat so the whole tough guy machismo thing is cute but weak as fuck imho

I used to hand shovel 100 yards of asphalt a day and watched plenty of tough guys fold like little girls

biggest sign of weakness is those who use that as a means to allow for poisoned mind to effect others

Amazing I spent my life as a lone grower working with members of gangs and 1% clubs and organized crime and yet here I am without having to play any of that bull shit dick swinging kids games

And seriously do you really think anyone here impresses me from a tough guy point of view when none of you have a fucking clue to as what I suffered and endured in this lifetime and how your machismo means shit to me

your words and mind, that is a different story

You never told me in your own words and evidences why you feel the way you do so as far as I am concerned your not brave enough to discuss the very thing on display here

your mind

imagine what your life would be like if it didn't get in your way because I can't imagine that mindset never costing you anything in the past either

but hey if you really want to see if i got tits just ask if that will sooth your mind at all

But can you cut and split 2 cords of wood a day dropping trees with a chainsaw and splitting with a maul?

Have you ever gone out in the woods shot a 200lb buck and dragged it 2 miles load it on a truck and butcher it with nothing but a knife? Let alone bear they get a lot bigger but I've done that too. I'm also good at archery and have taken my fair share of game with a bow and arrow.

Really, I don't see why more people don't hunt, wild game is the healthiest meat you can ever eat and meat is necessary. I've also done a lot of construction work and I was a pretty good amateur boxer too.

I don't know growing weed for a gang doesn't really sound very tough to me, I've always sold my weed I've grown myself never had any trouble with gangs. I always thought gangsters were pussies for the most part they don't believe in a fair fight which is why I carry my Glock everywhere I go. Not too mention I don't see the need to help a gang profit from my hard work, it's not like I need protection, I got guns, family and friends. Of course I'm not going to start shit with cartels and Hell's Angels I do know a few Angels just never did business with them.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

lol or maybe your can't accept that your actions negatively effect people including yourself which accounts for your defective notion that making fun of religions and sexuality is any different from being racists

My mind is a very personal thing, very unique to me and has been formed over my lifetime by my experiences and lifestyle, but still according to those that study the mind we only use 10% of it.....I tend to make more fun of myself than religions or sexuality,
and can laugh at just about anything, so long as I find it funny....as I am now laughing at you, because what you say makes me laugh....you should try it sometimes, it might well cheer you up.....Weird.

nfn not only did I spend years doing heavy construction but you where never in the shape I was unless you where 235 and under 10% body fat so the whole tough guy machismo thing is cute but weak as fuck imho

I was 230lbs and 6% bodyfat once....I won the 1986 Hong Kong Heavyweight bodybuilding title....but lets not get into some dick-swinging contest here....so what?

I used to hand shovel 100 yards of asphalt a day and watched plenty of tough guys fold like little girls

When I was 16 I worked 15 hour days in a Methodist Hostel in Muswell hill washing pans and dishes all bloody day 6 days a week.....so what?

biggest sign of weakness is those who use that as a means to allow for poisoned mind to effect others

Sorry, but you had better enunciate/communicate that sentence a little better, because I can't seem to make out what you are getting at here.

Amazing I spent my life as a lone grower working with members of gangs and 1% clubs and organized crime and yet here I am without having to play any of that bull shit dick swinging kids games

Each to their own.....so what are you doing here?

And seriously do you really think anyone here impresses me from a tough guy point of view when none of you have a fucking clue to as what I suffered and endured in this lifetime and how your machismo means shit to me

I can't see anyone trying to impress you Weird, perhaps you are attempting to try and impress us with what you endured with your own machismo.

your words and mind, that is a different story

....OK so tell us the story of your words and mind, I am all ears.

You never told me in your own words and evidences why you feel the way you do so as far as I am concerned your not brave enough to discuss the very thing on display here

your mind

I would if I could but I can't .....since 90% of my mind is a mystery,
and perhaps the 10% that I do know is not such a good representation of the rest of it.

imagine what your life would be like if it didn't get in your way because I can't imagine that mindset never costing you anything in the past either

Again I don't seem to be able to comprehend exactly what you are getting at here.....it all seems more than a little vague to me Weird.

but hey if you really want to see if i got tits just ask if that will sooth your mind at all

Hey.....if you want to have tits, that's really up to you, that's a personal issue, and quite honestly I wouldn't enjoy seeing them at all, since they are probably kinda Weird......If it bothers you then maybe you need to consult with some authority on gender reassignment?

 

[Phaeton]

But can you cut and split 2 cords of wood a day dropping trees with a chainsaw and splitting with a maul?

Have you ever gone out in the woods shot a 200lb buck and dragged it 2 miles load it on a truck and butcher it with nothing but a knife? Let alone bear they get a lot bigger but I've done that too. I'm also good at archery and have taken my fair share of game with a bow and arrow.

Really, I don't see why more people don't hunt, wild game is the healthiest meat you can ever eat and meat is necessary. I've also done a lot of construction work and I was a pretty good amateur boxer too.

I don't know growing weed for a gang doesn't really sound very tough to me, I've always sold my weed I've grown myself never had any trouble with gangs. I always thought gangsters were pussies for the most part they don't believe in a fair fight which is why I carry my Glock everywhere I go. Not too mention I don't see the need to help a gang profit from my hard work, it's not like I need protection, I got guns, family and friends. Of course I'm not going to start shit with cartels and Hell's Angels I do know a few Angels just never did business with them.

My brother and I were dropped off by plane at Savage River just north of Denali where we shot a pair of 600 pound Caribou two valleys over from camp.
Damn, that was some long packing. The next year we took a 1300 pound moose right on the riverbank, much easier.
Then old school shovel and rake landscaping for a couple years.
I was one strong son of a bitch but somehow it did not change much else about me.
Still wishy washy and conflict avoiding. Do not like fighting at all and girls almost have to point blank ask for sex 'cause I overworry about intimidation what with all my muscles and such.

Marijuana helps, then when I get confused I blame the drug instead of all the idiot people out there.
When I visited the states I ended up selling pistols to bikers, they are just regular guys, some nice and some jerks. I had more problems with immature potheads than I did with gangs.

The point I am trying to make, I guess, is regardless of physical trials, personal abilities, or lifestyle, my dick size remained unchanged.

PS: When I reached 65 I noticed my penis was a bit smaller. WTF

 

[Weird]

But can you cut and split 2 cords of wood a day dropping trees with a chainsaw and splitting with a maul?

Have you ever gone out in the woods shot a 200lb buck and dragged it 2 miles load it on a truck and butcher it with nothing but a knife? Let alone bear they get a lot bigger but I've done that too. I'm also good at archery and have taken my fair share of game with a bow and arrow.

Really, I don't see why more people don't hunt, wild game is the healthiest meat you can ever eat and meat is necessary. I've also done a lot of construction work and I was a pretty good amateur boxer too.

I don't know growing weed for a gang doesn't really sound very tough to me, I've always sold my weed I've grown myself never had any trouble with gangs. I always thought gangsters were pussies for the most part they don't believe in a fair fight which is why I carry my Glock everywhere I go. Not too mention I don't see the need to help a gang profit from my hard work, it's not like I need protection, I got guns, family and friends. Of course I'm not going to start shit with cartels and Hell's Angels I do know a few Angels just never did business with them.

I taught people to grow or sold them my work

a good portion prepaid

I stand on the merit of my word and works

nice assumption

I fish instead of hunt but I come from a line of sportsman and my father was a gun smith

where do you think I learned to deal with pathetic psychopathic mindsets, I have generations of them on both sides of the family powerful, functional and integrated into society

I have never been a prostitute to either side I take the middle way

be surprised how far in life you get by simply not being afraid of your fellow humanity regardless of their diversity

imagine that

 

[Weird]

Hey.....if you want to have tits, that's really up to you, that's a personal issue, and quite honestly I wouldn't enjoy seeing them at all, since they are probably kinda Weird......If it bothers you then maybe you need to consult with some authority on gender reassignment?

you made the estrogen comment because you see emotion as weakness where in it is your inability to processes it maturely that has gotten us here

i'm not the one promoting bias and hate against minorities

the amount of people who justify this is shrinking every day and I don't see it solving any of the issues that have you so unhappy about them

that doesn't compute and I'll get back to your other points after my commitments today

 

[Weird]

My brother and I were dropped off by plane at Savage River just north of Denali where we shot a pair of 600 pound Caribou two valleys over from camp.
Damn, that was some long packing. The next year we took a 1300 pound moose right on the riverbank, much easier.
Then old school shovel and rake landscaping for a couple years.
I was one strong son of a bitch but somehow it did not change much else about me.
Still wishy washy and conflict avoiding. Do not like fighting at all and girls almost have to point blank ask for sex 'cause I overworry about intimidation what with all my muscles and such.

Marijuana helps, then when I get confused I blame the drug instead of all the idiot people out there.
When I visited the states I ended up selling pistols to bikers, they are just regular guys, some nice and some jerks. I had more problems with immature potheads than I did with gangs.

The point I am trying to make, I guess, is regardless of physical trials, personal abilities, or lifestyle, my dick size remained unchanged.

PS: When I reached 65 I noticed my penis was a bit smaller. WTF

I noticed part of the human experience as a male is that the drive to be physical is so dominant that reinforcing it takes us away from honing our other facilities such as our mind

The physical can validate the absurd and the logical equally so much so we are personal realities as constants and not seasons of the human condition itself

Much of it has to do with the loss of communal stewardship that would introduce us to the experience as it is now and how it will come to be later on based on the choices we make

It leaves people to their own devices, makes them islands and in this reversion of self proclaim physical personal freedom as if that was the destination in the first place

Sadly however, it is not, for heaven and hell, good and evil the fundamentals of narcissism and altruism are constructs of the mind that we control, no one else.

That doesn't make them meaningless however or meaningless to the human condition, ergo this conversation.

 

[Bud Green]

I know we have a bit of a cultural divide here, but no one here in Oz has ever called people from the country any derogatory names.

Gimme a break Mick! I've heard some Aussies use plenty of bad names when talking to or about the Aboriginies..

....Since I was quite young, once some people heard that I was born in a caravan they would call me a 'Pikey'
.all these are just names/words, and if you get hurt by words as far as I am concerned you need to 'Man-Up!'.....and not be such a pussy......lol.

I was born in the backseat of a Greyhound bus, rolling down highway 41.
People used to call me a "ramblin' man".... I never let that bother me either...

fucken bogans, haven't heard that word for awhile. It is a derogatory word but as most Aussies carry bogan genes anyway, it's no big deal.

Isn't that just kinda the Aussie equivalent of 'trailer trash" or 'sewer rat"?

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I hope to God those guys are just trying to steal each others wallets!

These days it looks like hormonally men are getting ever closer to being more like my Mum and sister....

I think seeing a guy with a "man bun" is usually a warning sign you're about to meet one of these 'hormonal men'!

I used to hand shovel 100 yards of asphalt a day.

I worked in the construction trades all my life and I do not believe this statement for even a second..

Just noticed that judgement and division are still cool.
I guess we have another three years of that.

Judgement and division? It sure didn't just start under this administration..

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Yep! I believe I'll just step back for a while too, while the "swinging dicks" on here duke it out with each other..

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I dunno.....maybe I was raised in a place and time where most estrogen and progesterone around me was in my Mum and sister......(that's why they always cried a lot).....and not in the cows milk, or in soybeans/tofu/soy milk etc....

These days it looks like hormonally men are getting ever closer to being more like my Mum and sister....yes, we can laugh...but it is quite shocking.

you made the estrogen comment because you see emotion as weakness where in it is your inability to processes it maturely that has gotten us here

i'm not the one promoting bias and hate against minorities

the amount of people who justify this is shrinking every day and I don't see it solving any of the issues that have you so unhappy about them

that doesn't compute and I'll get back to your other points after my commitments today

Your perception of what I wrote or inferred is quite wrong Weird.....

..What I was getting at is that thru various foods that are consumed these days men are taking into their systems high levels of estrogen which is creating hormonal imbalances, so creating more feminine secondary sexual characteristics in men, such as increased emotional responses i.e. CRYING.....

I was not implying that emotion = weakness, so please get off your high horse, stop pontificating and stop trying to scold the membership and me here. How about talking about AMERICA, which is what this thread is supposed to be about......so getting back on topic.....okey dokey?

Soy is a plant that contains plant estrogens, also called phytoestrogens. They mimic the same female hormone produced by women to cause the development of secondary sex characteristics, including breasts. High levels of soy are found in soy milk, edamame, tofu snacks and most vegetarian meat alternatives.17 Dec 2015

How to Lose Man Boobs by Avoiding These Foods | Eat This Not That
www.eatthis.com/how-to-lose-man-boobs-by-avoiding-these-foods/

 

[Bud Green]

What I was getting at is that thru various foods that are consumed these days men are taking into their systems high levels of estrogen which is creating hormonal imbalances, so creating more feminine secondary sexual characteristics in men, such as increased emotional responses i.e. CRYING....

This is absolutely sad but true...
And if you read the food labels, you'll see that soy is used in almost all processed foods these days...
And this isn't just an "America" problem....

 

[Wendull C.]

There has to be a line somewhere though doesn't there?

Like you can't say you are going to kill someone or threatening to do things.

Wasn't the deplorables thing directed at the Trump team? I really can't remember....

No. There is not! People thinking there is, is the reason the right to free speech is the first amendment. Rigjt there with religion, which was all important to people at the time.

Free speach goes, so do the rest of your rights. Just look at sweden an germany if you speak out against the rapist muslim hoardes.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

....Some more ALARMING facts on estrogen from an American medical journal.

Why Estrogen Balance is Critical to Aging Men
May 2010
By William Faloon

When we started offering comprehensive blood test panels back in 1996, men did not understand why we were checking their estrogen levels. Back in those days, estrogen was considered a hormone of importance only to women.

We tested estrogen based on published data indicating that when estrogen levels are unbalanced, the risk of degenerative disease in aging men skyrockets. Of concern to us 14 years ago were reports showing that excess estrogen contributes to the development of atherosclerosis.

Human clinical studies conducted more than a decade later confirmed our suspicions. Men with even slightly elevated estrogen levels doubled their risk of stroke and had far higher incidences of coronary artery disease.

Our early observations also revealed that men presenting with benign prostate enlargement or prostate cancer had higher blood estrogen levels (and often low free testosterone blood levels). Subsequent clinical studies help confirm our early observations.

Insufficient estrogen, on the other hand, predisposes men to osteoporosis and bone fracture.

The fact that 99% of men today have no idea what their blood estrogen levels are helps explain the epidemic of age-related disease that is bankrupting this nation’s medical system.

New Study Published in the Journal of the American Medical Association
Conventional doctors tend to ignore hard science until it appears in their own medical journals.

A study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) measured blood estradiol (a dominant estrogen) in 501 men with chronic heart failure. Compared to men in the balanced estrogen quintile, men in the lowest estradiol quintile were 317% more likely to die during a 3-year follow-up, while men in the highest estradiol quintile were 133% more likely to die.

The men in the balanced quintile—with the fewest deaths—had serum estradiol levels between 21.80 and 30.11 pg/mL. This is virtually the ideal range that Life Extension® has long recommended male members strive for.

The men in the highest quintile who suffered 133% increased death rates had serum estradiol levels of 37.40 pg/mL or above. The lowest estradiol group that suffered a 317% increased death rate had serum estradiol levels under 12.90 pg/mL.

The dramatic increase in mortality in men with unbalanced estrogen (i.e., estradiol levels either too high or too low) is nothing short of astounding. It uncovers a gaping hole in conventional cardiology practice that is easily correctable.

This study revealing the lethal dangers of estrogen imbalance was published in conventional medicine’s Bastille of knowledge—the Journal of the American Medical Association. Physicians no longer have a basis to question male Life Extension® members who take aggressive approaches to maintain their serum estradiol levels in optimal ranges.

https://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2010/5/Why-Estrogen-Balance-is-Critical-to-Aging-Men/Page-01

 

[igrowone]

No. There is not! People thinking there is, is the reason the right to free speech is the first amendment. Rigjt there with religion, which was all important to people at the time.

Free speach goes, so do the rest of your rights. Just look at sweden an germany if you speak out against the rapist muslim hoardes.

there are lines
try communicating military positions/plans and so forth, and see if you can plead your constitutional right to free speech
let us ask edward snowden if he believes that will work as a defense if he comes back to the usa
there are many lines, there are many limits to all constitutional rights

 

[Wendull C.]

I agree there igrowone. I shouldve said as a private citizen espousing personal views.

Never did i mean divulging military secrets or classified information.

 

[St. Phatty]

I wonder if Ms. Stormy Daniels or another one of Trump's mistresses, will de-rail his presidency.

It would provide a few weeks of entertainment if Melania served him with divorce papers.

Part of the election reporting, was about Melania was in tears on the night of the election. Not happy tears. I know it's private but I wonder what upset her, if the news got it right.

 

[Wendull C.]

But hell, all i would have to do is have a takeadickoffofme ala bradley manning and the next democrat would pardon me. Just for virtue signaling to the estrogen rich men in their constituency.

But, i would take the time instead. I have grown quite attached to winky

 

[igrowone]

I agree there igrowone. I shouldve said as a private citizen espousing personal views.

Never did i mean divulging military secrets or classified information.

understood, lots of scenarios on this stuff
probably the more relevant situation is incitement to violence
such as posting a message that a particular individual should be killed

 

[Wendull C.]

understood, lots of scenarios on this stuff
probably the more relevant situation is incitement to violence
such as posting a message that a particular individual should be killed

Yes, that seems a recent construct of the courts.

I was around 5 or 6 years old, when a neighbor threatened to kill my mom because she has a big mouth. That she does too. The cops she called said talk is cheap and they could do nothing about it.

That was okay, when pops got back from his fishing trip that guys face never looked the same again. Even when i saw him 15 years later. Lmfao.

 

[Cannavore]

But hell, all i would have to do is have a takeadickoffofme ala bradley manning and the next democrat would pardon me. Just for virtue signaling to the estrogen rich men in their constituency.

But, i would take the time instead. I have grown quite attached to winky

Manning, Snowden, & Assange are heroes. What theyve done should be rewarded with the highest honors we can give people. Their personal orientation or personal beliefs are absolutely irrelevant. They are patriots.