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Am I BUSTED?

Vorsprung

Active member
Just like if you get caught with processed thc. It's a felony for concentrateed thc in any form too.

not true attorney general opinion in sb420 was hash is equivalent to marijuana under california medical marijuana laws. no instant felony.. :noway:

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(d) Only the dried mature processed flowers of female cannabis plant or the plant conversion shall be considered when determining allowable quantities of marijuana under this section."
 

IGROWMYOWN

Active member
Veteran
First off i wouldnt run... that would just make things worse. good news is you are under 100 plants so no fed time. Good luck I think if you get a good lawyer you can get probation. Here in L.A. doubt you would be doing time and even so you would be let out early jails are packed. oh and try to avoid the public pretender at all costs there are some good ones but chances that you get one of the good ones are slim. I'd try and find a former district attorney that worked your county that is now in the private sector with some MMJ experience that has or had a relationship with the current D.A. or deputy D.A that has your case.
 

IGROWMYOWN

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Veteran
Odor can be probable cause for a warrantless search!!!

Odor can be probable cause for a warrantless search!!!

Ok, smelling weed is NOT probable cause for a warrantless search!!
I wouldnt be so sure about that google marijuana odor and probable cause http://policechiefmagazine.org/maga...n=display_arch&article_id=714&issue_id=102005 and from CA Norml marijuana odor study about probable cause cases http://norml.org/pdf_files/brief_bank/marijuanaodorstudy.pdf a simple search and you can find alot cases of leos entering a residence just for the smell of MJ once they arrive on location. First rule of growing you dont talk about growing... odor control is a very close 2nd. I think its crap and hate that Leo's can use their training and keen sense of smell to say "Hey i smell marijuana" and come on in but it happens more than it should.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
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I dont know why 60 small plants seems like such a big deal

Because the man has used a 'plant of merryjewanna' as a unit of measure for so long and people have heard over and over and over that in excess of x number of 'plants' obviously means the person was dealing. It's a shame that so many potheads have taken to heart, and regardless, WTF is wrong with dealing? Not why should you avoid it, what's wrong with doing it if you choose? Here's $67,000 worth of pot according to the police, just for shits and giggles. It's easy to tell this guy has the local market locked up, just by counting the number of plants:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/photo_popup...01&prod=albums&ins=link_thumb_2_orig&alb=all#

http://www.laurinburgexchange.com/p...es_left_column&open=&#cb_post_comment_2778788

Edit: OK, why can't I get pics to show in my posts anymore?
 
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Weedman Herb

YES you're BUSTED ... Why is this so confusing to you? The neighbor wasn't wrong about their accusation so you fucked up there ... they said you were growing and you were. You had 5 times your limit and Backup clones ... did you really expect a slap on the wrist and a warning to Not Do It Again? The cops can't say what the outcome will be when they hand in the paper work (once a cop starts writing they never turn back) and they will try to keep you talking to further incriminate yourself. So what if someone else got less of a hassle when they got raided ... you're basing your actions (that could limit your freedom ... there's that limit word again) on speculation ... Not Smart IMHO. If you were within your limits nothing would have come of this. Quit whining about how unfair it is and figure out what you are going to say Next ... it's pretty obvious that the Last thing you said is going to be used against you in a court of law.
 

nuke

New member
I guess you should've told the cops no and destroyed your 60 lil ones before they could come in. Not to mention talking about it loud enough so your neighbor can hear in the first place. Hope everything goes as well as it can for you, and hope you'll absorb this experience and apply what you've learned.

Oh and I was under the impression that smelling weed is plenty probable cause to search.
 
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pthway4

Member
First off i wouldnt run... that would just make things worse. good news is you are under 100 plants so no fed time. Good luck I think if you get a good lawyer you can get probation. Here in L.A. doubt you would be doing time and even so you would be let out early jails are packed. oh and try to avoid the public pretender at all costs there are some good ones but chances that you get one of the good ones are slim. I'd try and find a former district attorney that worked your county that is now in the private sector with some MMJ experience that has or had a relationship with the current D.A. or deputy D.A that has your case.
Bullshit!!!!! RUN!!!!! Listen you are fcked.....sorry really I empathize...but being through the grinder for ten years because I thought I could get a break as a "first time offender" was bullshit.....they gave me the same ten when they found me. If you have a family you need a lawyer...dont know if it will help or not but.If in PA and want lawyer recomendation PM me....With family you have no choice but to ride it out and try and challenge in court everything from probable cause to information filed....preomnibous of course..post collaterall is harder to beat. But if your single...RUN LIKE THE WIND!!!!!! I can steer you to a camp ground and temp service about 2000 miles from the east coast bro..good luck
 

IGROWMYOWN

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Veteran
Bullshit!!!!! RUN!!!!! Listen you are fcked.....sorry really I empathize...but being through the grinder for ten years because I thought I could get a break as a "first time offender" was bullshit.....they gave me the same ten when they found me. If you have a family you need a lawyer...dont know if it will help or not but.If in PA and want lawyer recomendation PM me....With family you have no choice but to ride it out and try and challenge in court everything from probable cause to information filed....preomnibous of course..post collaterall is harder to beat. But if your single...RUN LIKE THE WIND!!!!!! I can steer you to a camp ground and temp service about 2000 miles from the east coast bro..good luck
Yeah what i said was all bullshit, Listen to this guy who did 10 years of his life in the "grinder" he sounds like he knows what hes talking about and seems to make good life choices:laughing: :jerkit: Purpz look here You and your girlfriend are both medical patients Are you in Cali? if so fight it. unless you or your girl like living in a camp ground. If I was 5 years old again i'd probably be all in for living in a camp ground but these days not so much. Trust your gut after all its you life, I wish you luck with whatever you decide.
 

purpz

New member
alright first off, I'm not running anywhere, The worst i'm going to get is 3yr probation and misdemeador cultivation,possibily some county jail time but I doubt it, but I just rather not have that if I dont have to. For all of you that wanna keep talking shit and saying "why you do this why you do that whats wrong with you" bla bla etc, I already fuckin know so shutup about it. Lesson learned, Shoulda told them get a warrant and chopped them all up. But whatever its too late so now I'm just concerned on going through this court process and trying to win this game, or atleast come close.

Can anyone tell me about the clone counting as a plant deal, someone in this forum said theres alot on here about it but I couldnt find anything. So my question is:

Does unrooted clones count as plants?

If you have any links to information on this i'd appreciate it. Thanks all.
 

dexter840

Member
i can't vouch for your state, but in florida it's not a plant until the clone has 'hairs' coming off of it, thickening of stem wall does not count. those are literally the words- i was quite surprised some jack ass lawmaker new this much on cloning
 

IGROWMYOWN

Active member
Veteran
Im almost sure clones count in the plant count as plants, at least thats how i treat them to be on the safe side.
 

BOCEPHUS

Member
I was never handcuffed or arrested either I volunteered to come in and talk didn't have a lawyer and got screwed! Drop a case these counties are broke and hard up for a easy bust. Be careful and cover your ass with the lawyer. It's not what a laywer does it's who they know!
:yeahthats:yeahthats:yeahthats
 

kmk420kali

Freedom Fighter
Veteran
Im almost sure clones count in the plant count as plants, at least thats how i treat them to be on the safe side.

The cops will count them, but in reality, they are just multiple cuttings of one plant...until they grow roots-- This is one of those things where you use an expert witness during your Trial--
 

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