Aliens, yay or nay?

[bombadil.360]

Then they try and to develop a framework as to why something is repeatable.

actually, this is wrong.

strictly speaking, they try to develop a frame on how something works in order to be able to repeat its function.

this is how technology is developed from scientific research.

the question of Why is not a concern of science.

everyone involved in the pure sciences that try to involve their area of study to try to answer Whys are usually the laughing stock of the scientific community, as they fall into the error of Scientism.

be good.

 

[DrFever]

Just had breaky with a alien a illegal alien chick from mexico yum yum lol

 

[BushyOldGrower]

Big foot is a visiting alien giant spoken of in old literature. Maybe he doesn't exist but I don't know because I never saw one. Thought I heard one howl once.

Ya know first comes hypothesis, then theory and then scientific law. But really they aren't facts at all. The law of gravity just relates to mass and distance and the amount of attraction. This law failed to explain the mechanism.

My hypothesis in college was that like all forms of energy gravity must travel in waves.

Now a god particle gives mass to all things providing another clue to how our universe works. String theory or hypothesis this thread is getting deeper.

Science could be a false religion that just has tenets that require certain procedures to find the truth. We have been told many false things by science. Science is just a man made method so it's only as good as the scientists adhering to this strict religion that allows no gods before it.

I like science and still feel it is a logical approach but what will be the next new religion?

Maybe reality isn't so real but it surely changes as time passes so it can't really all be pinned down so easily. The universe is complicated and our minds are really quite simple.

What matters is if we can control reality and create a new and better reality.

The future lies in making our own worlds...

 

[HempKat]

Well it's been a while since I looked into them, but I believe there are some that can only be seen by aerial view (though some can be seen from the hills).

I only asked that because your other statement seemed much more definitive in terms of their origin and meaning than any information I'm aware of.

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Well I'm sorry, I have no control of how things "seem" to others.

 

[Ilikecookies]

actually, this is wrong.

strictly speaking, they try to develop a frame on how something works in order to be able to repeat its function.

this is how technology is developed from scientific research.

the question of Why is not a concern of science.

everyone involved in the pure sciences that try to involve their area of study to try to answer Whys are usually the laughing stock of the scientific community, as they fall into the error of Scientism.

be good.

I agree.
I personally believe science has some explaining to do, the biggest planet in our universe has such gravity that it can affect us, we know how to send soacecraft out there and avoid it being affected, and the best science we are allowed is cell-phones and technology that is killing us, and we are killing the planet?

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here is a guy who's not a nutbar (Canada's former Defence Minister, he ran for Primeminister once) admitting to such as he gets to the point in life where the truth matters.

 

[HempKat]

Just had breaky with a alien a illegal alien chick from mexico yum yum lol

Take me to your leader

 

[Anti]

Science could be a false religion that just has tenets that require certain procedures to find the truth. We have been told many false things by science. Science is just a man made method so it's only as good as the scientists adhering to this strict religion that allows no gods before it.

It's usually religious people who equate science with a religion. (Bomb likes to call it "scientism")

This is a false analogy. We have been told many things by science that have later been disproven - BY SCIENCE.

The church told us 2,000 years ago that Jesus was born of a virgin. 2,000 years later? They're sticking with that lie.

That's the advantage of science. Science makes observations about reality, develops a hypothesis and then subjects that hypothesis to rigorous testing. Results are published and others attempt to replicate the results independently. Independent confirmation bolsters the results and we move forward. When new data comes up that invalidates part of a theory - the theory is revised to include the new data!

Science never claims to have the ultimate truth. Science is only a method that allows us to refine every closer to that truth.


RELIGION claims to have all the answers. Science proposes the best answers we have based on our current level of understanding.

To think of it as a new religion is to completely misunderstand it.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

It's usually religious people who equate science with a religion. (Bomb likes to call it "scientism")

This is a false analogy. We have been told many things by science that have later been disproven - BY SCIENCE.

The church told us 2,000 years ago that Jesus was born of a virgin. 2,000 years later? They're sticking with that lie.

That's the advantage of science. Science makes observations about reality, develops a hypothesis and then subjects that hypothesis to rigorous testing. Results are published and others attempt to replicate the results independently. Independent confirmation bolsters the results and we move forward. When new data comes up that invalidates part of a theory - the theory is revised to include the new data!

Science never claims to have the ultimate truth. Science is only a method that allows us to refine every closer to that truth.


RELIGION claims to have all the answers. Science proposes the best answers we have based on our current level of understanding.

To think of it as a new religion is to completely misunderstand it.

I had a discussion with a muslim taxi driver a few months ago, based on a rainbow, he said it was amazing what god could do, and I said water refracting light to reveal the spectrum is something a child can accomplish with a light and a glass off the cold wet stuff.
One of his main points was that there had to be a god ,with a plan, how else could you explain innocent babies dying horribly, to which I replied, "Shit happens", that's all the explanation you need. Blunt, but true.
At the end of the (long, tedious) chat, I asked him if there was any possible evidence he could think of which would prove to him there was no god. He skirted the question (I think he knew where I was going with it) and turned it around to say "If there was evidence for god, everyone on earth would be muslim" I then got sidetracked into explaining that while everyone may suddenly believe that a god exists, it would not mean that everyone believed his version of the god myth unless there was also evidence for that. Then I got back to my point, explaining that while he rejects evidence which contradicts his pre existing belief, I would change my belief, when presented with evidence, and that my belief is more reasonably justifiable because of this.
This is the difference between the religious mind and the skeptical.

 

[Ilikecookies]

This cabbie was a true believer, and IMO true believers are hard to explain anything to, they have been brainwashed in 'faith' for so long that 'truth', 'science', and 'evidence' are foreign to them.

 

[DrFever]

next time you got a splitting headache and you look at the tylenol or aspirin thank science for that
wonder what god would remedy for a headache ???
here few things you wouldn;t want a priest to say lol

Rub-a-dub-dub, thanks for the grub. Yay God!

I talk to God in person every day.

I'm not really a priest, I just bought this robe for $5.

(While in the confession booth) Oh, don't mind my arm banging on the wall. Continue with your adultery confession, my child.

I became a priest in a 6-month degree from home program.

I'm a reformed murderer but, don't worry, I've confessed.

Who is this Jesus you speak of?

Do you want to touch my magical septre?

I have candy in my pocket.

I'm naked under my robe.

I really like kids.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

This cabbie was a true believer, and IMO true believers are hard to explain anything to, they have been brainwashed in 'faith' for so long that 'truth', 'science', and 'evidence' are foreign to them.

And this is why religion is something only adults should partake in. There should be no teaching this stuff to kids at all. The reason they want to teach it when you are little, is so they can ram it in your head so hard and so full, that there is no space left for anything else.
If it were up to me, anything beyond some very basic explanations of various religious festivals would be gone as far as kids are concerned.
I have no problem with teaching comparative religion in schools, ie "Here is this group, they believe this this and this, their festivals and holidays are this this and this"
Of course, true believers don't want comparative religion taught, and will pull their kids out of it, even though it isn't promoting any religion, simply teaching kids what different groups believe.

I went to C of E schools with a religious assembly and forced prayer every morning. Even if you were not praying you had to shut your eyes and lower your head. We went into the church next door 3 times a week. I actually liked being in the church as it was old and had awesome stonework, I spent hours checking out the masonry and the paintings, and the stained glass windows.

 

[Ilikecookies]

I wish I could give you some rep HG, when I can, I will.

I agree 100%.
I'm old enough to have prayed in school as a youngster and remember them removing it.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

And this is why religion is something only adults should partake in. There should be no teaching this stuff to kids at all.

Here in the US in Texas the school board has actually promoted a policy of not teaching critical thinking. This is bad enough on its face. Unfortunately Texas gets to set the agenda for the rest of the nation on education. This because they are so heavily populated that they order so many school books, apparently the textbook publishers do what the Texas school board wants.

Texas, where they still love GW Bush even now.

It's not looking good over here.

<3 Tesla

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Here in the US in Texas the school board has actually promoted a policy of not teaching critical thinking. This is bad enough on its face. Unfortunately Texas gets to set the agenda for the rest of the nation on education. This because they are so heavily populated that they order so many school books, apparently the textbook publishers do what the Texas school board wants.

Texas, where they still love GW Bush even now.

It's not looking good over here.

<3 Tesla

I've read quite a bit about the Texas BORED of education.
There are lots of videos on youtube, of meetings and discussions of the board. Good grief is all I can say.
Hey ho though, you have Aronra educating these pillocks whether they like it or not.

 

[DreamsofTesla]

This is the difference between the religious mind and the skeptical.

There's a really famous quote by professional jerk Bill O'Reilly:

"Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that."

(At about 1:50 in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY)

The fact that science can, in fact, explain this? Well, that changes nothing in O'Reilly's mind.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

There's a really famous quote by professional jerk Bill O'Reilly:

"Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that."

(At about 1:50 in this clip)

The fact that science can, in fact, explain this? Well, that changes nothing in O'Reilly's mind.

I really like watching Bill O. I watch it like people watch Horror films. People watch Horror films to be scared, I watch fox "news" to get my blood up.

 

[legalizeDK]

if I watch to much of bill O´i wanna beat up the computer or TV that im watching it on

 

[DreamsofTesla]

if I watch to much of bill O´i wanna beat up the computer or TV that im watching it on

You watch Bill O'Reilly, your blood pressure goes up. You can't explain that! LOL

When I moved here to the south I was completely culture shocked. The first time someone said to me, "It's not good to open your mind, the devil can get in" my jaw literally dropped. I asked her, "Well, what if he's trapped inside there and can't get out?" I'm lucky I didn't get shot.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

When I moved here to the south I was completely culture shocked. The first time someone said to me, "It's not good to open your mind, the devil can get in" my jaw literally dropped. I asked her, "Well, what if he's trapped inside there and can't get out?" I'm lucky I didn't get shot.

I just find that really sad.

 

[Anti]

There's a really famous quote by professional jerk Bill O'Reilly:

"Tide goes in, tide goes out. You can't explain that."

(At about 1:50 in this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb3AFMe2OQY)

The fact that science can, in fact, explain this? Well, that changes nothing in O'Reilly's mind.

I have to believe that O'Reilly is as much a character as Stephen Colbert. Colbert's character is an OPEN parody of O'Reilly's character.

O'Reilly can't possibly be as dumb as to really believe that "tide goes in, tide goes out" is a good answer for anything. It's his way of playing to his base, which unfortunately, eats crap like that up.