Alien Rift & GG4 in RDWC under PLC LED...

[gmo]

Excellent negative37dBA Very, very good looking grow and awesome harvest!

 

[benjuanman]

Congrats on the weigh in mate. You have done well, so now is the time to enjoy the fruits of your labour. Take it easy

 

[negative37dBA]

Thanks for all the nice comment guys....enjoying the "fruits" right now. The most stinky pot to date I have produced. It makes me cough when I open the jar and pull a big whiff. There's a lot of fruit there to enjoy...hahaha. Chilling with a space dust and the bong close by tonight on this long weekend.
Do not want to bum anybody out but remembering my dads passing on this day 31 years ago...way to early due to a accident. Been thinking about him much lately...missed him so much growing up and still do.
Have a great night all. Peace, negative.

 

[JustGrowing420]

Jars* filled to the brim with this jewel you grew. Excellent!
No need to report on the next run, we'll just assume you crushed it as well haha

What do you mean bum someone?
It's all in life, I think it's great you remember him like this and it's only natural that you miss him no matter how many years pass.
It's good to show some emotion too and takes courage to disclose something like this.

 

[negative37dBA]

Jars* filled to the brim with this jewel you grew. Excellent!
No need to report on the next run, we'll just assume you crushed it as well haha

What do you mean bum someone?
It's all in life, I think it's great you remember him like this and it's only natural that you miss him no matter how many years pass.
It's good to show some emotion too and takes courage to disclose something like this.

Thanks for that nice comment JustGrowing420. What I mean by bum out is I did not want to give any bad feelings or vibes talking about someone who has passed. I have had a lot of time to deal with it. It is a very hard thing to deal with in life. I normally like to give positive feelings when I post. Thanks again.
I am having a good time sampling the jars contents!
I started the process of making some THCA diamonds yesterday. I pressed out 28 grams of 75 and 25 bubble hash in my rosin press. I got a 13.26 gram yield and that's my start material. I pressed it straight into a clean small mason jar and put it on the heat...time will tell how we did. The start material is like glass. It is a hard shattery glass like structure, almost looks like obsidian rock. It should produce some good diamonds and sauce. Looking forward to that.
Watching Apocalypse Now...what a great movie....PBR Streetgang this is Almighty...do you read...over.
Have a great day all, I know I will.
Peace, negative.

 

[exploziv]

Oh! Finally found your thread! Nice grow, man! Can't wait to hear what GPW you got on that. Looks like it's a nice yeld for the watts. I am way too high now, but will come back and read the thread someday.
Peace!

 

[negative37dBA]

Oh! Finally found your thread! Nice grow, man! Can't wait to hear what GPW you got on that. Looks like it's a nice yeld for the watts. I am way too high now, but will come back and read the thread someday.
Peace!

Thanks for looking and finding it! I got 810 grams or 1.26 GPW on this run. Not to bad. I have a feeling I can do a bit better. Shooting for at least 32oz on this run. Took me a run to get the Jacks figured out but now that I have it on point the numbers will go up a bit. One of the posts on page 8 has all the weight info. Thanks for stopping by.
Have a great day all! Peace, negative.
Heres a shot from a few days ago...about day 12 of flower. Healthy.

 

[sp4z205]

Look at how hard a few of them are praying for the light, wow they look happy in there!

I may have missed this from an earlier post, with your undercurrent setup do you have an air stone in each site or in the rez?

Also piggybacking off your other post in my thread. What press do you use if you don't mind sharing?

 

[negative37dBA]

Look at how hard a few of them are praying for the light, wow they look happy in there!

I may have missed this from an earlier post, with your undercurrent setup do you have an air stone in each site or in the rez?

Also piggybacking off your other post in my thread. What press do you use if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks for that..a praying plant is a happy plant I always say...

So with the UC setup I go with a 4x2 stone in each module run by a active aqua 8 outlet, 25 LPM pump. I take the 8 lines and reduce to 4 then to the stones. I also put a check on the 4 so I do not have a siphon problem if power should go out. That is what I went with last run. I added a second 15 LPM pump to the epicenter this time. I am liking what my roots tell me.

For the rosin, I run a fairly basic piece of kit. I use the Nugsmasher OG 12 ton. Digital heating control but no pressure gauge...I been doing it on feel. I have yet to blow out a bag and have gotten yields as high as 27% off the Glue. I see some super fancy rigs with recipe memory and digital readouts of pressure and time. Nice to have if your on a commercial scale. What I have produces some awesome product.

I have 2 fat jars of about 12 grams each sitting on the heat now turning to diamonds...Been pressing the hell outta buds. Some people would cry sticking that fire in a bag and pressing it. It is concentrate...some people forget that when 40 grams of prime weed ends up as 12 grams of rosin. haha.
Have a great day all...I am off to hit the dabber. Some Alien Rift rosin from 2 runs ago...getting down to my last little bit of it. Truthfully and no disrespect to Ocean Grown at all but the Rift looks like B buds compared to the glue...Still hits good and has mad flavor but the bag appeal is low...

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi guys!! It has been awhile. I was getting lonely so decided to throw up some pics of weeks 4 flower this run....um it has gotten a bit outta control. 6 1/2 foot beasts hitting the lights and going full jungle mode. So green as well. Jacks is killing it. Been stripping a ton of leaves.
Day 25 of flower. GG4 from clone.

The next round...Dough G from Ocean grown....Forum cut Cookies X Vader OG. OK, ok..I am going to be a dam dirty cookie cross grower...haha. Had these for quite awhile, they were a limited release. We will see. They show some mad vigor.

Hope you all are killing it in your grows!! I still got my diamonds cooking away...starting to look like something.
Have a great day all. Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

These girls got some legs!! Feel like I am going to have lack of trellis issues a bit later on as they heavy up...May have to do something about that. Good problem to have.

If you notice the one plant in the back right...its friggin huge!! I could have nearly filled the trellis with just that one plant...a couple others have only 2 or 3 mains...haha.

GG4, clone only. Day 28. These may be my healthiest ever!! JACKS for the win. So simple, so effective.

Legs!!! Check out that back plant...that's the beast I took clones from...just dwarfed the rest!

Having a great time this run guys...finally have the LED figured out after 3 runs...hell yes!! All other systems are just on cruise control....
EC, 1.4 Ph, 6.2 Water temp, 68 Air temp day 75...night 68 Humidity 43% Using just Jacks 3-2-1, cal mag, Sweet, Superthrive and Hydroguard...pretty simple. I dropped the Tribus, Mammoth P and Sensizym this run with no adverse effects that I can see...
Have a great night all...peace, negative.

 

[exploziv]

Heya bro! You figured it out for sure! They look better than they need to, hahahaha!
Could you tell me what problems were you facing before? I have some problems that show as cal mag deffs, sometimes some P def. Happens even when I feed 2-3 times the usual strenght. Have you had any problems related to the ones I have? I learned a lot during the last 3 grows under high intrnsity led lights, but I still get some mild cal mag deff signs and the violet stems. Any advice for me?

 

[negative37dBA]

Sure...Depending on the strain those purple petioles may be genetic. It is with the Glue for sure.
I would get deffs showing up around week 5. Looked like cal mag or even would start as what looked like nute tip burn. Then it would progress outward into the leaves till they were dead all the way through.
Look close at some of the leaves in this shot..you will see what I am talking about.

Same here. This is later on and you can see how it gets worse over time...

Looked like hell and the plants needed something to change.
Started by upping my ph to right at 6.2..I had been running at 5.9. I use a ph controller so it stays exactly there all the time...
I upped my daytime temps by 5 or so degrees in the room. I have a enviro controller hooked up to a small heater...keeps the room at 75 to 77 canopy all the time during lights on. Helps with leaf surface temps and the rate of transpiration.
I am using nothing but Jacks 3-2-1 for the main food. I had been using Advanced sensi. I like Jacks so much more and will stick with it..cheap as chips and works very well.
I dropped a bunch of fluff I was using in the rez. No Sensizym, Mammoth P, Tribus or any of the 3 or so root inoculants I was using.
I did add some more air to my system(RDWC)but I do not think that is what has made the difference.

Here is a shot of today, week 5 of flower and there is no signs of this coming on again. They are perfectly green all over and putting on trichs like mad. I do see some tip issues here and there..very slight, but I do see something there...not worried about it.

Having the ability to dim your light is nice. You have to get the plant ready to perform at a high level if you are going to run the light hard. This type of lighting intensity really demands that all parameters are spot on. I am running mine at about 80% right now. Mine have gotten a bit to close to the light this run. Hope some of that helps and makes sense to you.
Have a great day all. Peace, negative.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi everyone...Couple shots from week 6 of flower...starting to get somewhere! Have a couple leaf issues showing but we are quite a ways in so it should not be a problem. I am trying to diagnose it though. It is real full in there and hard for me to get a good pic but here is a idea of what it looks like.
GG4 from clone. Day 35 flower.

Frost level is rising!

Here are the leaf issues with the browning at the tips and edges. May be a lack of K...have upped that a bit lately to see if it helps.
Some info. Day 35 flower in RDWC. Jacks 3-2-1 at 1.2-1.4 EC. Added cal mag at .3 EC. 68 degree water and 75 degree canopy...lots of airflow and exchange. Ph is at 6.0 to 6.2..mostly 6.2
LED 660 watt bar type fixture. 20 inches from canopy in front at full intensity. In the back the plant is much closer...about 5 to 10 inches and light is dialed down to around 60%. I realize that is mostly not enough clearance but I cant do anything about it now. They got a bit outta control early on. Mostly things look great but the leaf edges keep browning further....smell and trichs are great!

I am more than halfway there for sure and I like what I see....still some minor things to work out...getting closer!
If you have any ideas feel free to chime in.
Thanks for checking in and have a great day all.
Peace, negative.

 

[sp4z205]

oh wow, those sure are frosting up nice!

Does your PH swing below 6.0 much? I saw you have an auto adjuster for PH but can you decide how wide of a range it goes through?

I love your setup!

 

[negative37dBA]

oh wow, those sure are frosting up nice!

Does your PH swing below 6.0 much? I saw you have an auto adjuster for PH but can you decide how wide of a range it goes through?

I love your setup!

Hi and thanks for checking in. My ph controller has a adjustment range of 4 to 10 and you can adjust it pretty much as tight as you want. My low set point is 6.02 and my high is 6.22, so a .20 swing. The only time I see it dip is right after a water change out. It wants to drop to like 5.7 or so but the controller bumps it right back up. I leave the controller off from time to time to see if there are any significant swings. Plus I can tell a bit by how much solution is left in the individual reservoirs.
Appreciate the comments about the setup...it has taken me a long time to get here. I built most of it myself and i like that. Also the fact that it is all working real well together makes me happy...best meds I have ever produced have been these last couple runs under the LED with undercurrent. That's in over 10 years of growing....

I been watching your grow pretty tightly....you are kicking ass by the way! Cool how we are just a few days apart yet they look a bit different...seeds vrs clone. I have really let mine get a bit to crowded...I am working on that each run I seem to get a bit better.

My diamonds attempt failed...was not seeing ANYTHING after 3 weeks so I pulled the plug...will try again. Still ended up with some real nice separated rosin if you will. Lots of air bubbles and a terpy layer on top of a thicker more viscous, caramel colored substance....its so sexy and super strong. The lady and I take a dab each and there's just silence after....it hits harder than my fresh pressed for sure. Going to press another couple ounces today....I am loving having the option of sweet flower or the hard hitting dabs. Plus semi full jars of the stuff look amazing. Just do not pull out a 27 gram jar of rosin in front of a group...it kind of screams hey I grow!
Here is a shot of that rosin,,it was from gg4. I cant do more than 2 before tapping out...and I do little grain of rice sized hits. I usually save this for nigh time but I am going to hit 1 right now just for the hell of it. My lady just loves it. Those dudes that dabs multiple grams at a time are just unreal...I could never do nor do I want to do that..I would die. When I see them do that I just think..I could have dabbed for a week on what that guy just put down!!

Have a great one all! Peace, negative.

 

[sp4z205]

Hi and thanks for checking in. My ph controller has a adjustment range of 4 to 10 and you can adjust it pretty much as tight as you want. My low set point is 6.02 and my high is 6.22, so a .20 swing. The only time I see it dip is right after a water change out. It wants to drop to like 5.7 or so but the controller bumps it right back up. I leave the controller off from time to time to see if there are any significant swings. Plus I can tell a bit by how much solution is left in the individual reservoirs.
Appreciate the comments about the setup...it has taken me a long time to get here. I built most of it myself and i like that. Also the fact that it is all working real well together makes me happy...best meds I have ever produced have been these last couple runs under the LED with undercurrent. That's in over 10 years of growing....

I been watching your grow pretty tightly....you are kicking ass by the way! Cool how we are just a few days apart yet they look a bit different...seeds vrs clone. I have really let mine get a bit to crowded...I am working on that each run I seem to get a bit better.

My diamonds attempt failed...was not seeing ANYTHING after 3 weeks so I pulled the plug...will try again. Still ended up with some real nice separated rosin if you will. Lots of air bubbles and a terpy layer on top of a thicker more viscous, caramel colored substance....its so sexy and super strong. The lady and I take a dab each and there's just silence after....it hits harder than my fresh pressed for sure. Going to press another couple ounces today....I am loving having the option of sweet flower or the hard hitting dabs. Plus semi full jars of the stuff look amazing. Just do not pull out a 27 gram jar of rosin in front of a group...it kind of screams hey I grow!
Here is a shot of that rosin,,it was from gg4. I cant do more than 2 before tapping out...and I do little grain of rice sized hits. I usually save this for nigh time but I am going to hit 1 right now just for the hell of it. My lady just loves it. Those dudes that dabs multiple grams at a time are just unreal...I could never do nor do I want to do that..I would die. When I see them do that I just think..I could have dabbed for a week on what that guy just put down!!

Have a great one all! Peace, negative.

Thank you for the kind words about my grow!

That sucks the diamond attempt failed but the results are at least still enjoyable as a product. I'll have to look into how to make those when I have a few grows under my belt.

I can't wait until I have the ability to expand so I can start my first attempts at cloning and running a perpetual, then I need to buy a press, then I need..... oh boy this hobby is going to consume me I think!

That rosin looks so delicious I have to try making my own some day.

 

[Canopy]

Hey Negative, I recently found your journal here and I am on about page 4 so far trying to catch up but dont want to miss any nuggets of info so I am taking my time reading. First let me tip my hat off to you for a such a clean and well thought out grow, taking time to document it for us lurkers, and for detailing your methods for others to learn. I'm sure at times it felt lile you might be talking to the wall here as there was not much posting besides yourself but let me tell you it is very valuable info for someone like me learning.

Let me get caught up and I will have some questions about your setup. First one unless you already went thru it is the F & D tray for vegging. I also grow in DWC and have a hard time for first few weeks, namely getting seeds to root well and establish roots. Do you start them in the aeroponics bucket?

Anyways have a great day and I'll get back to page 4 and get caught up.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hey there Canopy...thanks for taking the time to check it out...appreciate the kinds words.
So page 4 eh? That would be the start of flower of the gg4 monocrop run...yeeesss!
As far as the flood and drain veg set up. I germ my seeds with the paper towel method. Then when they have tails I go straight to the aerocloner. I have been using hydroton in the net pots. I then move up to larger net pots when I go to the F&D. I cut away the original net pot carefully so the roots have no restrictions. Usually when I move into the F&D they go into the Current Culture 8" net pots so I can transfer them straight into the flower setup with ease. My seeds seems to have no issues getting going. I have 4 going right now of Ocean Grown's Dough G. A cross of Forum Cookies X Vader OG. They are looking healthy and about ready to switch to the F&D setup. They were placed in the aero cloner about 10 days ago and are about 6" tall. I have 1 straggler but it is going to make it.
Rdwc is so nice to grow in I love it.
Have a great day all. Peace, negaative.

 

[Canopy]

Hey there Canopy...thanks for taking the time to check it out...appreciate the kinds words.
So page 4 eh? That would be the start of flower of the gg4 monocrop run...yeeesss!
As far as the flood and drain veg set up. I germ my seeds with the paper towel method. Then when they have tails I go straight to the aerocloner. I have been using hydroton in the net pots. I then move up to larger net pots when I go to the F&D. I cut away the original net pot carefully so the roots have no restrictions. Usually when I move into the F&D they go into the Current Culture 8" net pots so I can transfer them straight into the flower setup with ease. My seeds seems to have no issues getting going. I have 4 going right now of Ocean Grown's Dough G. A cross of Forum Cookies X Vader OG. They are looking healthy and about ready to switch to the F&D setup. They were placed in the aero cloner about 10 days ago and are about 6" tall. I have 1 straggler but it is going to make it.
Rdwc is so nice to grow in I love it.
Have a great day all. Peace, negaative.

Hey Negative, appreciate the response. So glad you didnt completely stop journaling. I signed up just so I could comment on this thread. I've got maybe 60-80% grow knowledge down but I do get hung up on details of some of the processes. I've had a few successful runs, 1 in soil, 1 in coco and a couple in DWC. Each run has had some major issues along the way and I'm trying to find my groove. DWC for example I had issues with water temp too high in summer, got root rot and then its game over. Also had light leaks into bucket causing algae and again root rot. I know I definitely need a water cooler.
I was initially attracted to your journal because you were starting out with Ocean Grown and I follow Vader on YouTube. I have grown Shockwave F2 and Malibu Pie. After reading the thread for a while I noticed we had some things I common. I quit my job 8/20 and I walk my dog through a creek near my house, also I press my flowers into rosin and do many projects around the house in my spare time. From what I read you sound like a cool guy I could smoke a bowl with.

Ok sorry for rambling on here I'll ask a more detailed question that I have. So I can get a seed to crack and sprout pretty easy. I use water soak 24 hours, then in between paper towel and into plastic container. After i get a decent tail I plant them into root riot and then into net pot surrounded by hydroton. At first I used big 6" net pot but it took a long time for the tap root to reach the water and growth was slow. Until the tap hit the water. Then I'd try to use a smaller net pot and raise the water level to get the root into water faster. It kinda works but not much faster and lots of extra work setting up a small bucket. So then i see your method which looks much better. So so you just put the seed on top of the hydroton and it will make it's way down? So I'm thinking it must be that the sprayers soak the underside of the net pot and keep the seedling from drying out? I would have to top water the seedling a few times a day manually and if I forgot it would dry out and die.

Also wanted to ask if you cycle the pump on/off for the sprayer or does it run all the time? What is needed to make that aerocloner? Did you make a thread for that I can reference? I'm a diy guy so if I can I like to build things myself, save some money and learn at the same time.