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Ak47 from seroius compared to f2 ak47 from joey weed...?

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FTL

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I grew out multiple packs of SS ak47 between mid to late 00s and found nothing but short BLD rubber smelling stuff with heavy highs.

Then I scored a NLD Clone of the late 90s release.

It had the spiraling bud sites and finished up all droopy like a weeping willow. Would get 10 foot easily outdoors. Had a soft kind of woody/sweet smell. Good Strong high but less heavy than the mid 2000s stuff.
Took ages to build tolerance to it. man it would make people white out and puke if they had a low tolerance though.

I made a cross of NL5(Clone) xAk47(2005) ......lol hated it, was to unkind,jittery, strong and dark feeing. Full horror movie high. Binned the lot
 

SunnyListon

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Had some at some arround 2000, still have the Original seeds.

It sucked. As FTL said, horror movie high. Will never grow them again.

If you want to sit around with no thoughts, like your brain takes a break from you, this is your stain.

Kali Mist sucked too, but in a different way.
 
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LostTribe

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I was just chatting with ol LouDog420.

He reported to me that this same newer batch of Joey Weed AK47 has given him hermie males when using the female JW AK47 as seed moms. I am going to make an educated guess that JW used hermie males to repro this batch giving rise to hermie traits in the progeny of both female and male sides of the line.

I am glad I chose to cull my recent male hermie TRSC Double Jamaican. That would have been a big mess! Guess I will hit the Jams with frozen THH and a bit of Real Sour s1 instead.
 
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Carraxe

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Its still got the Power. I smoked a little of this JW the other day. I was going through some older jars I am going to turn into gummies and that one is pretty damned strong even for just a random 2 seed pop. I have a few more packs to look for a sweeter pheno. Loudoggs looked insane this one was more sativa and longer. The shorter quicker one was not as tasty. This one was more sandlewood and very white. Looser bud too.

I don't remember the smell or taste. But I wanted to re-experience the AK47 and bought some from the original breeders more than 10 years ago and it was totally different, they were weak in effect and had a very specific smell I just can describe as unattractive.

Sweet smokes
 
I don't remember the smell or taste. But I wanted to re-experience the AK47 and bought some from the original breeders more than 10 years ago and it was totally different, they were weak in effect and had a very specific smell I just can describe as unattractive.

Sweet smokes
I remember growing and purchasing white russian many times from roughly between 2010-2015 from many different people, and all was absolute poo, 1st joint gets you high, then absolute nothing.
 

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The two plants on the right are Serious AK-47. While it may be my poor growing, these two plants are not the same structure. The one in back is doing well, the one in front is a runt that didn’t stretch much.
 

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Burt

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A very KIND member sent me some seeds to various clones from Cali over 14 years ago and one of them was an AK47 cross.
His Rez sourced princess diesel hermied due to power strip light
I too got rubber tire terps. We called her tire fire it was that foul.
However, her sister was an elite. An orange citrus/tropical lady that deserved her own line breeding.
There is gold in the line but it is one in 20 imo
 

silverhazefiend

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Ak 47 from up north was fire unique smell like bad breath and something orange or tangerine and some sweet spice … nice up high that settled into a chill body stone lime green with orange hairs ain’t seen it since 2010-12

Would it compete with the top stuff today no .. it wasn’t even moving faster than the bubba at the time it was unique tho
 

Carraxe

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There are some seed makers in Spain that made a cross between a Jack Herer cut and an AK-47 cut, most likely both being legit from the 90s or early 2000. They sell it under the very unoriginal name of Jack 47.

I've grown some of them. The result is strong and productive, but it doesn't carry the special terps and high of the Jack. And of course is not as uniquely day-wrecker destructive as the original AK-47 I know. They sell it as a 75% sativa, but we all know how deceptive these numbers are.

I keep a specimen with the idea of using it for productive strong hybrids. The smell is quite strong and nice, but a little aggressive. Nothing to do with the sweet and attractive scent of the Jack. There is a reason I keep that Jack... it is consistently better than any commercial sativa hybrid I test.

I'd also like to get these AKs that kicked out our young asses twentysomething years ago. Maybe my opinion would be different after all these years.

Sweet smokes
 

i.love.scotch

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There are some seed makers in Spain that made a cross between a Jack Herer cut and an AK-47 cut, most likely both being legit from the 90s or early 2000. They sell it under the very unoriginal name of Jack 47.

I've grown some of them. The result is strong and productive, but it doesn't carry the special terps and high of the Jack. And of course is not as uniquely day-wrecker destructive as the original AK-47 I know. They sell it as a 75% sativa, but we all know how deceptive these numbers are.

I keep a specimen with the idea of using it for productive strong hybrids. The smell is quite strong and nice, but a little aggressive. Nothing to do with the sweet and attractive scent of the Jack. There is a reason I keep that Jack... it is consistently better than any commercial sativa hybrid I test.

I'd also like to get these AKs that kicked out our young asses twentysomething years ago. Maybe my opinion would be different after all these years.

Sweet smokes

What is the source of the sweet and attractive smelling Jack? There have been so many Jack seed lines, clones and hybrids over the years it's kind of like SSH where it's hard to pin down a specific 'type' to the strain.

Same sort of deal with AK47, where we have different legendary clones of it such as the Cherry pheno and the Sandalwood pheno, and then obviously many many special plants private and commercial growers have found in seeds, and then also there have many several versions and recreations of the seeds. Making AK47 as a 'strain' pretty massive, like Jack Herer.

One AK47 seed line I am most intrigued by is Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds. Feminized seeds of an old AK47 Sativa pheno, apparently.

Likewise, Pyramid also offers Lennon, feminized seeds of an old Jack Herer x Haze pheno.

I'm quite intrigued to try them both and to hear if anyone has any experiences with them
 
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FTL

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Likewise, Pyramid also offers Lennon, feminized seeds of an old Jack Herer x Haze pheno.

I'm quite intrigued to try them both and to hear if anyone has any experiences with them
^^^ I would be keen to hear about this one especially.
Will look those guys up.
Cheers scotch
 

Carraxe

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What is the source of the sweet and attractive smelling Jack? There have been so many Jack seed lines, clones and hybrids over the years it's kind of like SSH where it's hard to pin down a specific 'type' to the strain.

Same sort of deal with AK47, where we have different legendary clones of it such as the Cherry pheno and the Sandalwood pheno, and then obviously many many special plants private and commercial growers have found in seeds, and then also there have many several versions and recreations of the seeds. Making AK47 as a 'strain' pretty massive, like Jack Herer.

One AK47 seed line I am most intrigued by is Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds. Feminized seeds of an old AK47 Sativa pheno, apparently.

Likewise, Pyramid also offers Lennon, feminized seeds of an old Jack Herer x Haze pheno.

I'm quite intrigued to try them both and to hear if anyone has any experiences with them

You are totally right. I have grown two Jack cuts that were the result of the same breeding ideas, but came to be totally different individuals.

I can't say anything about the cut the Spanish "breeders" used for the Jack 47, because I don't know it.

The one I keep is sweet, wood and varnish-like with some lemon, productive (for a sativa hybrid), strong, fast (9-10 weeks) and very appetizing. The other one was drier and woodier, but it had a caramel background, and was slower and less productive. Also very attractive and appetizing. Both of them were vital and energetic sativa-like growers, and keepers, no doubt. Both of them had a strong, tasty and very satisfying uplifting hybrid effect.

For me, the AK-47 was a world apart. I can't say it was better or worse. It was just a totally different thing. Smell, taste, production, stimulation... none of that mattered. What mattered was its effect. It was like being high on something different. Jack was very good weed with a great psychotropic effect, but the bloody AK was something that hit you in your body, with sweat, tachycardia, disorientation and fear. After that, benzo-like brain death.

I had my experiences with AK several years before I got my JH cuts. This can mean that my tolerance then was very different and that effect we had back then, now we wouldn't. Anyway, from that group of people who got to smoke that shit, no one wanted to plant it again or asked for it again. All of us remember that shit with respect.

I don't know if there are several cuts and they are different, special, or even if they are what I knew. I got them from a regular pack from Serious Seeds and I didn't get to anything similar ever since, 25 years ago. An unique experience I can't compare with anything else.

Hope you get to experience that someway.

Sweet smokes
 

Dime

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What is the source of the sweet and attractive smelling Jack? There have been so many Jack seed lines, clones and hybrids over the years it's kind of like SSH where it's hard to pin down a specific 'type' to the strain.

Same sort of deal with AK47, where we have different legendary clones of it such as the Cherry pheno and the Sandalwood pheno, and then obviously many many special plants private and commercial growers have found in seeds, and then also there have many several versions and recreations of the seeds. Making AK47 as a 'strain' pretty massive, like Jack Herer.

One AK47 seed line I am most intrigued by is Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds. Feminized seeds of an old AK47 Sativa pheno, apparently.

Likewise, Pyramid also offers Lennon, feminized seeds of an old Jack Herer x Haze pheno.

I'm quite intrigued to try them both and to hear if anyone has any experiences with them
A long time ago I grew galaxy and another one from Pyramid and both hermied,shitty pot too.
 
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What is the source of the sweet and attractive smelling Jack? There have been so many Jack seed lines, clones and hybrids over the years it's kind of like SSH where it's hard to pin down a specific 'type' to the strain.

Same sort of deal with AK47, where we have different legendary clones of it such as the Cherry pheno and the Sandalwood pheno, and then obviously many many special plants private and commercial growers have found in seeds, and then also there have many several versions and recreations of the seeds. Making AK47 as a 'strain' pretty massive, like Jack Herer.

One AK47 seed line I am most intrigued by is Tutankhamon by Pyramid seeds. Feminized seeds of an old AK47 Sativa pheno, apparently.

Likewise, Pyramid also offers Lennon, feminized seeds of an old Jack Herer x Haze pheno.

I'm quite intrigued to try them both and to hear if anyone has any experiences with them
i've grown 3 tutankhamons in my lasty grow, they are curing now. i got 3 different phenotypes: #1 was the most hybrid pheno, cut at 9 weeks, the testers from this plant were daywreckers, strong rubber/liquorice aftertaste(Tho it still needs to cure, so its not reliable info), sativa dom but highly impairing high. #2 was cut at day 72, smells like apricot jelly with a little rubber undertone lol, the high is very medicating for pains or headaches and is not impairing at all. #3 cut at almost 80 days, havent tried it yet but was the strongest smelling pheno and most definetly the most sativa leaning one ( thai like leaves). it is a big yielder and very easy to grow strain, it needs a lot of leaves removal and branch removal if grown indoors because it is too bushy.
View media item 18725227this is #2, the others flowers look similar, a bit denser in #1, more foxtailed on #3

p.s. i forgot to say i grow in organic living soil, no salts added. to me they dont look prone to being hermi at all, i had #3 throw a couple nanners because my lights timer broke in w11 of flowering but thats it.
 
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I've grown a lot of AK-47, indoors and outdoors. It wasn't consistent even in Feminised form. It might have been at one time, compared to GrowDoc's Bubbledust which were almost identical with 2 main phenotypes. Some with a polyploid expression others without.. 'Alpha' & 'Betty' I've not seen much consistency in seed lines where 70% is on the money and 15/15% is like the mother or father.. Ak-47 isn't that.

I have some experience smoking Ak and Bubblegum from Amsterdam and in Amsterdam.. These are the kinds of things that wet my beak.. We were getting a lot of Swiss import.. In the Swiss import was 2 types of cannabis that were almost identical with one having more lemon fuel. maybe different maybe one was outdoor.. (I doubt it). Out of all the types of cannabis coming in at that time. It was much more higher quality than anything ive had since as mass produced.. This American wave has nothing on that Swiss wave..

Anyway. In the Dam I get some Ak- roll it up pure proceed to melt into my American pancakes.. Not used to these kinds of effects I quickly bought some seeds.. I can remember that spliff to this day.. the bud was not indica but it wasn't Kali mist either.. or Jack. It was much much much stronger... Best coffeeshop weed I've ever had that was..

The only oath strain I remember having that effect was some pure NL 30 years ago.. The weed looked unlike modern hybrids. Was grown by a friend of a friend.. Instant whitey it was.. First time smoking anything green.

Fast forward to September 2001 and the Swiss stuff is coming In.. Then stopped.. That's when the UK went into full home grown production mode.. Few years later the Haze started coming over in serious amounts and still does.. You only get the Hypro, Core the Silverhaze and the Silver Bubble these days.. It's so much cheaper than the American stuff that been irradiated and the dutch Swiss stuff is much better quality..
 

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