African photo thread

[African herbman]

WOW beautifull work Elaminito! Looks like that Early Lesotho is starting to pump out the resin.
Is that a giant male in the second pic!? Looks like that dude could do some damage...

Good to see you again here Txopín-Iruña!
What seeds did you crack if you don't mind me asking? Look forward to some pics!

Regards, Ah

 

[African herbman]

I must say, I am captivated by the contents of this thread.
So many wonderful pictures and incredible strains.
I would like to ask all of you who are growing or have grown these Landrace Sativas if you might pass along some info on the conditions these plants are being grown under.
For instance, I've heard that many of the African strains do not like to be fertilized much if any at all. Have you found this true? I would also be interested in any other details, especially those conditions one should know about in advance when growing these in a confined, indoor space. Do they require a higher temperature? More/Less water?

You folks have really inspired me and I am hopeful to learn more so, I do not stress my plants by doing a typical grow if these particular strains need more specific care.

http://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=139

http://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=140

Hey Owl, Ive had my eye on your threads...

The Africans I grow are collected by me here in South Africa. I found the seeds to usually have very high germ rates but do worse germing in the cold. They prefer a nice warm climate to germ and grow.
The sativas will often grow extremely fast especially on high Nitrogen ferts and prefer rich healthy well draining soil with lots of organic matter but are able to survive in even very poor hard pack soil. Not all though, just the hardier ones like Swazi.

I have notice that most of mine like the nutes even though I grow them in a rich soil made from composted horse manure rich in nitrogen. It keeps them going strong for a few weeks from seed but they suddenly start to yellow of from the bottom and need some high N veg nutes, then stand back as they tend to skyrocket with the heavy Nitrogen. They will want the Nitrogen quite well into the early flower stage until the heavy stretch stops, then the N is stoped and the buds are allowed to fill in and a standard high P and K nutes are used. I like to grow mine organic. Really brings out the often subtle flavours of Sativas.

I have noticed, that because of the very fast stretchy growth, they tend to drink quite allot. Also it can get hot here in mid summer and keeping the girls well watered becomes very important. A big sativa girl busting into flower in the intense dry heat can drink a few litres a day.

As for indoor, I usually flower my Africans from seed (12/12 from seed) and top once or twice. If I wanted a bigger yeild I would veg for a few weeks and emply heavy topping and LST to keep them low, promote bud sites and get a thick even canopy of buds. So basically train them hard as they can really stretch.

And a little tip for sativas indoors. Often certain strains would start foxtailing indoors so I thought it was a sign they needed more light so I moved thm closer to the bulb and the foxtailing got worse. I figure out that they want to be further away from the bulb. I moved them away and the buds started to firm up.

Hope that helps some what. I'm interested to see others views.

Regards, Ah​

 

[Owl Mirror]

Thanks AH ! yes that info is helpful

 

[elmanito]

WOW beautifull work Elaminito! Looks like that Early Lesotho is starting to pump out the resin.
Is that a giant male in the second pic!? Looks like that dude could do some damage...

Thnx, that giant male which is a Danish Gold is pollinating this Early Lesotho with purpose to have next year a much earlier sativa with a bigger yield.I already harvested ripe seeds from this plant.

Namaste

 

[Hazy Lady]

Great thread, you don't often see these strains, great advice African Herbsman

 

[elmanito]

For instance, I've heard that many of the African strains do not like to be fertilized much if any at all. Have you found this true?

Thats not in tiredly true.In the veg stage i give them a high Nitrogen like 12-12-10 (organic nutes) and they like it like hell.In the pre flowering stage right now i give them Vitrasol which is based on sugar beet molasses NPK 3-2-9 + natural minerals Ca, Mg, Cu, Fe.
In the flowering stage i wil give them Bat Guano extract + Vitrasol.

Namaste

 

[Owl Mirror]

Thats not in tiredly true.In the veg stage i give them a high Nitrogen like 12-12-10 (organic nutes) and they like it like hell.In the pre flowering stage right now i give them Vitrasol which is based on sugar beet molasses NPK 3-2-9 + natural minerals Ca, Mg, Cu, Fe.
In the flowering stage i wil give them Bat Guano extract + Vitrasol.

Namaste

Thank you for that insight.
I'm just starting my Ethiopian Highlands out so,
I think I will follow as you've laid out and see how well they do.
What medium are you planting in? If outdoors, do you have the soil tested?
Or do you simply replace what you dig from the hole with your own mix?

While I'm asking questions, I have a Nepali male which just started showing sack about one week ago. About how long until they will be ripe enough to cut and put in a cup of water, allowing the pollen to fall on a mirror ? As far as I can tell, not one sack has opened as yet.

This is the product you talk about?

VITRASOL ~ Organic soil-improver

Vitrasol contains lime, potassium, and a great number of trace elements.
This product gives an extra sweet taste to fruits.

 

[RAGGA MON]

Sawubona mama afrika!

 

[elmanito]

This is the product you talk about?

VITRASOL ~ Organic soil-improver

Yep, thats right!!!

Namaste

 

[African herbman]

Sounds like a nice cross Elmanito. What are the genetics of the Danish Gold?

Owl Mirror, if planting directly in the ground I dig out a hole roughly about 30cm x 30cm. I then mix in composted manure of some sort with about 1/2 native soil if the soil isn't too bad. I'll add less native soil the worse it is but I try to grow in a fairly fertile spot. I try to use well composted horse manure from stables as I've found it to work better than any other manure I've used.

I'll then mix in a healthy scoop of Bone meal and worm castings. After that I'll just supplement the plants with nutrients buy hand as they need them. Fish Emulsion for veg, Blackstrap Molasses for early flower and late flower and anytime really and high Phos dry bar cave bat guano for flower.
I do the same for a potted mix eccept I use 1/2 composted horse manure 1/2 high organis matter potting soil.

Here's some 3 week + cured Congo black pheno no'1 about to get sampled. She smokes more like and indica with a very spicy hashy taste that tickles the throat and expands in the lungs. Very little fruityness or sweetness in the taste unlike the smell of the ground nugs. Nice hard compact heads too.

Durban Poison x PurpleAids f1's. All showing different expressions.

This one looks more PA leaning in the leaf shape and structure.

And 5 Rooibaard. Very hard strain to come by so I've been collecting anything that could be the real deal in hopes of getting the real Rooibaard. These are the 5 seeds I've managed to collect.
Very exited to see how these turn out

Regards, Ah

 

[elmanito]

Sounds like a nice cross Elmanito. What are the genetics of the Danish Gold?

Danish Gold F3 - Danish Passion x Guerilla Gold [Kona Gold x Himalayan X Afghani x Mighty Mite]

Pic of the male

Namaste

 

[dkmonk]

Malawi Gold x Colombian Gold

 

[African herbman]

Nice male Elmanito! Looks like it should be a nice early sativa.

Welcome dkmonk, and thanks for the contribution.
That looks like a great cross. Is this the first time growing out these genetics? Is it a cross of your own?

Regards, Ah

 

[elmanito]

Nice male Elmanito! Looks like it should be a nice early sativa.

Extremely early & potent, flowering started in June.

Namaste

 

[African herbman]

Nice work mate! What part of the world you growing these?

Remember those chinese hempseed I was messing with? Those things were the earliest plants I've ever seen. I crossed one with a durban (the durban was not so early, normal really) and both females flowered well over a month before any others strains of the same age.

There is defintely some potential there if I can get some to germ. Early, lots of colours I noticed in the line and very potent. Small calyx plants. Looks like a southern Asian Sativa. Some of the most ball breaking stuff I've grown in it's power trippyness and electric high.

I am sitting with a nice confirmed Rooibaard male in early flower and a Wild Highland Nepalese male from Bodhi that started dropping pollen last night.

I got my durban girl in the re-veg tank and she still has a bunch of fresh white hairs begging for the Highland Nepalese pollen. What you think?

Might just do a few even though the male is untested and the line is completely unknown to me. He looks to be a solid male though.

A buddy has some real nice Hashplants in early flower which I think will recieve some Nepalese pollen. The hashplant is supposed to be a pure inbred landrace Indica so I'm happy to combine the genes.

Regards, Ah

 

[Owl Mirror]

Nice work mate! What part of the world you growing these?

Remember those chinese hempseed I was messing with? Those things were the earliest plants I've ever seen. I crossed one with a durban (the durban was not so early, normal really) and both females flowered well over a month before any others strains of the same age.

There is defintely some potential there if I can get some to germ. Early, lots of colours I noticed in the line and very potent. Small calyx plants. Looks like a southern Asian Sativa. Some of the most ball breaking stuff I've grown in it's power trippyness and electric high.

I am sitting with a nice confirmed Rooibaard male in early flower and a Wild Highland Nepalese male from Bodhi that started dropping pollen last night.

I got my durban girl in the re-veg tank and she still has a bunch of fresh white hairs begging for the Highland Nepalese pollen. What you think?

Might just do a few even though the male is untested and the line is completely unknown to me. He looks to be a solid male though.

A buddy has some real nice Hashplants in early flower which I think will recieve some Nepalese pollen. The hashplant is supposed to be a pure inbred landrace Indica so I'm happy to combine the genes.

Regards, Ah

Sounds like we are thinking along similar lines.
I now have two Nepali males, one is superior to the other but, I plan on spreading the pollen around to any willing female in my closet.
I just flipped the light cycle of my veg chamber to 12/12 as the only plants in there right now are the three Ethiopian Highland.
I have one Mazar {SB freebie} that is about to reveal it's sex so, I'm thinking of sprinkling a few buds on her as well.

 

[African herbman]

Sounds cool Owl. You've got a nice selection there. A pure Indi and 2 pure Sativas. Either way you look at it, you'll get a nice true hybid (indy/sat) out of those plants. I think the Ethiopians with their thin tall structure and loose buds would benefit from the Mazar the most. The Nepal should also beef up the Ethiopians.

I think a three way cross of ethiopian, nepalese and pakistani in a ratio 75%sat 25% indi would be something nice.

Good luck with the projects. I hope to start my own true landrace indica/sativa hybids in the very near future.

Regards, Ah

 

[Mota de Dios]

Hey so your saying that Rooibard is a strain or a phenotype? I've only heard the term used to describe Swazi as in Swazi Rooibaard. Red beard or red hairs. Thanks for your time.

Mota

Nice work mate! What part of the world you growing these?

Remember those chinese hempseed I was messing with? Those things were the earliest plants I've ever seen. I crossed one with a durban (the durban was not so early, normal really) and both females flowered well over a month before any others strains of the same age.

There is defintely some potential there if I can get some to germ. Early, lots of colours I noticed in the line and very potent. Small calyx plants. Looks like a southern Asian Sativa. Some of the most ball breaking stuff I've grown in it's power trippyness and electric high.

I am sitting with a nice confirmed Rooibaard male in early flower and a Wild Highland Nepalese male from Bodhi that started dropping pollen last night.

I got my durban girl in the re-veg tank and she still has a bunch of fresh white hairs begging for the Highland Nepalese pollen. What you think?

Might just do a few even though the male is untested and the line is completely unknown to me. He looks to be a solid male though.

A buddy has some real nice Hashplants in early flower which I think will recieve some Nepalese pollen. The hashplant is supposed to be a pure inbred landrace Indica so I'm happy to combine the genes.

Regards, Ah

 

[RAGGA MON]

rooibaard is a swazi pheno

 

[African herbman]

Ye aparently it's a Swazi Landrace. From what I've seen and smoked, I think the Rooibaard and Swazi are 2 very differant lines. Both similar but put some Rooibaard next to Swazi and you'll notice the difference in colour, structure, smell, then smoke them and you'll really feel the difference.

I would put the Rooibaard as a "red" cultivar completely. Red stems usually, bright red hairs and dark buds. Swazi is by no stretch of the imagination a red variety. I agree they are landraces fromt he same area, just different landraces coming out of the same region.

RAGGA MON, many times I have seen what look exactly like Rooibaard buds in a bag of swazi but lack the unmistakable smell of redbeard and were just average when smoked.

The real Rooibaard seems sooooo hard to find. Got it only once before and I won't forget it. The same is a similar story with allot of local tokers. Only ever got the redbeard once and will always describe how legendary it was. I really want to get some of this shit in my stable so to speak.

Regards, Ah