Advancing Eco Agriculture, Product Science

[Backyard Farmer]

I think part of the EC bump comes from the increase in biology from protein , sup R green is partially composted litter , if you want the real deal chicken poop , and the only poop I'll is btw is stutzman nutri rich 4-3-3 with 7% ca from oyster shells

 

[c-ray]

http://www.tigersul.com/products/organic/organic-sulphur/tiger-90-cr-organic-sulphur.html

 

[c-ray]

anyone looked at their corn program vs tomato?

 

[milkyjoe]

I have not seen it c-ray. Why do you ask?

Because of the acres involved I would guess fewer applications higher rates

I am thinking the forage program. With a crop that never becomes polliated the harder you drive photosynthesis the more yield.

 

[c-ray]

just thinking tomato is more of a multi pick crop esp. greenhouse, while corn is a once pick.. fill and finish.. I've read a few bio guys say they like to alternate between anionic and cationic drenches in the GH tomatoes, to create resistance, but also to keep pumping out new flowers and frame while simultaneously filling the old ones.. cannabis it just seems to me, with the typical faster strains we want a big surge of flowering followed by a big fill and finish, like a grain.. long flowering plants are a bit different of course but I think you will catch my drift.. btw there are bio guys doing weekly foliar all the way to the end on grains, using overheads and planes..

 

[c-ray]

btw the sulfur link I posted just above is a type that is blended with 10% bentonite.. I am told it is kinder than the straight sulfur

 

[TerpeneTom]

How late into flowering are people applying foliar?

 

[milkyjoe]

Up to one week. The later in you get the more important enzymes become. I do cut out sea shield a couple of weeks out

 

[surfguitar]

How late into flowering are people applying foliar?

I did it till around week 5 or 6 last round with no issues at all, probably gonna do the same this round.

 

[TerpeneTom]

What refractometer for ~$100?

 

[c-ray]

I paid 26 bucks for a refractometer on ebay (direct from China)

 

[c-ray]

a couple interesting documents from nova crop control

http://www.novacropcontrol.nl/download.php?file=nccacresusa.pdf

http://www.novacropcontrol.nl/downl...reputtingcropsonaprecisedietbysjoerdsmits.pdf

http://www.novacropcontrol.nl/download.php?file=plantsapanalysisbyjtimmermansacresusa.pdf

 

[milkyjoe]

So John says seeing the soil test numbers for a green house mix will confuse me cause it does not behave like soil. I ain't having that. Gary is in town this week and we are gonna talk. But if they think I won't send it to logan they are wrong

 

[FatherEarth]

Think he's saying it's not gonna show much in the test. Minerals cycled by microbial populations waxing and waning ...he says don't show up on analysis...

 

[milkyjoe]

That is gonna make re amending a crap shoot. It would also be the case with other seriously living soils or compost

 

[Backyard Farmer]

That's the same idea behind the worm soil factory stuff

 

[milkyjoe]

Exactly. Also the thinking behind Coot's mix. And not a question in my mind it works.

But the plants are gonna remove minerals that need to be replaced. Not a problem if you are using it to start plants. But reusing the soil you will need to figure out how to replace those minerals. Something that needs to be considered.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

I have a system for doing it , but it requires never letting the area to fallow because the thing that activates the soil is the relationship between plant microbe soil water

It's gotten to the point though that I won't share any information because of all the fighting it starts. We can pm about it or talk off site

 

[Bulldog420]

It's gotten to the point though that I won't share any information because of all the fighting it starts. We can pm about it or talk off site

Let the trolls fight, if you have good information spread it. I don't understand why that would hold you back. You really that sensitive? Every time I post I get the haters also. Just find people who's opinion you respect and completely ignore the ones you don't. Simple stuff.

 

[surfguitar]

It's gotten to the point though that I won't share any information because of all the fighting it starts. We can pm about it or talk off site

Who cares what people say, every good idea gets pushback. Your doing us all a disservice by not sharing imo...