Just checked my email and Luis tells me they are running low on the Purple Haze but did let me know that they would be able to fill my initial order which is AWSOME!!!
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Just checked my email and Luis tells me they are running low on the Purple Haze but did let me know that they would be able to fill my initial order which is AWSOME!!!
Great to hear man. I too am looking forward to running just straight Purple Haze. Will be a year or two but I can wait. Gotta see how the PH turns out compared to the GH and OTH. Thanks and please do keep us updated with pictures.
I started this thread because I was pretty much on a mission to get some real deal HAZE and this is just the purest expression left in existence it would seem. Lucky are we that are able to find it through ACE. I am sure they are planning on releasing more Purple Haze pure as it is such a mysterious expression of the Old-timers Haze line. I plan to use it as an outcross to other sativa's to bring down the months of flowering and combine it with my favorites. Seems a perfect match for my Cinderella 99. Maybe a zamal or golden tiger as well from the looks of them. Just looking at the purple haze x malawi I know its got to be very unique and all these plants overall seem to be the stuff of legends so a hunting I must go!
Add that to the list of excellent customer service provided thus far with my search for original sativa genetics. Its hard to find people like these guys. For the past few years you just don't see the breeders really entering the forums in the way ACE does. Sure there are some exceptions but ACE is without a doubt here for the real reasons. Muchas gracias por todo amigos!
LT
The problem with this poll is other than Dubi there are maybe a handful of people who have tried every one of these so it's an incomplete guess for the vast majority. My guess is the most popular strains on the list will rise highest due in part to familiarity. I was going to put in my vote as I have tried 4 Ace strains but only two of them were in the poll which means I really have no clue what the majority of these strains are like other than what I have read. The other thing to consider is that strains vary considerably depending on phenotype. For my two cents, the strongest ace plant I have tried is a long flowering pheno of zamaldelica. It has a unique strong, clear, uplifting and trippy effect.
Surely the info is skewed to the strains people have grown for certain. Just couldn't figure out for the life of me what to try first.
I sort of went for most of the strains listed after reading so much about all of them! Won't be running them all at once and I rarely buy seeds anymore but thought if I was going to get something it ought to be righteous and most definitely 100% sativa.
I am getting older and the indica craze is somewhat boring to me as I dislike the zombie couch lock trips to the kwiky mart for more munchidos! Hoping to find phenotypes that are alive and electric.
I have a nice F-13 and Cinderella which are my 2 favorite strains through the years. Thinking they would be good candidates for any super males I may find along the journey.
Can anyone verify time frame for collecting viable pollen on the old-timers haze lines? I read in another ace thread that they are still similar to indica males so 3-4 weeks of 12/12?
I voted Guatemala with a condition. It came out of a tropical mix pack. Yielded about a pound. Didn't finish until 1st June@30 degrees S.
It was a strawberry pheno had the Christmas tree shape and was about 14 feet. The Purple haze thais and Green haze thais finished around the same time. They showed some damage from the unusually wet conditions that year. A bit of brown rot on the buds.
Guatemala showed no damage at all. Malawis were wiped out unfortunately. I had grown f1 Golden tiger the year before and had a couple of favourites. One a meao pheno which was a heavy yielder and the other a more wispy budded pheno. Both smoked good with a heavy rush followed by a trippy thai like high.
Guatemala had that heavy rush followed by a trippy high. It also tasted really nice. Some of the more extreme thai phenos of GT had a really nice euphoric element. I've grown double thai and know about that quality. The Guatemala also had a lovely euphoric element to it later on in the stone.
I crossed it with Haze thai because I had that many males to pick from. Ace may have found a few phenos too slow of the Guatemala so perhaps that's why it ended up in tropical mix. I am just guessing but thanks Ace seeds because I loved it.
It was a strawberry pheno had the Christmas tree shape and was about 14 feet. The Purple haze thais and Green haze thais finished around the same time. They showed some damage from the unusually wet conditions that year. A bit of brown rot on the buds.
Guatemala showed no damage at all. Malawis were wiped out unfortunately. I had grown f1 Golden tiger the year before and had a couple of favourites. One a meao pheno which was a heavy yielder and the other a more wispy budded pheno. Both smoked good with a heavy rush followed by a trippy thai like high.
Guatemala had that heavy rush followed by a trippy high. It also tasted really nice. Some of the more extreme thai phenos of GT had a really nice euphoric element. I've grown double thai and know about that quality. The Guatemala also had a lovely euphoric element to it later on in the stone.
I crossed it with Haze thai because I had that many males to pick from. Ace may have found a few phenos too slow of the Guatemala so perhaps that's why it ended up in tropical mix. I am just guessing but thanks Ace seeds because I loved it.
Mr. Roseberry
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Can you elaborate? Are there different phenos? I just put (2) into flower along with another pure thai I have. All have been cloned and proven to be female.
I noticed a euphoric element in purple haze thai, green haze thai, double thai and golden tiger. It was mostly in the purple haze thai and the double thai.
My favourite pheno in the double thai was a purple one. The green ones I had took forever and didn't finish outside where I live. I assume the green phenos were taking after the Ko chang side.
To describe it I would say a happy just right feeling located in the centre of my chest. Like a bubble of joy growing in size and making my body tingle. Some of the GT's didn't have it. One did especially but it had some weird issues going on with male and female parts coming out of the fan leaves.
I've seen a drawing in Marijuana botany of that characteristic with some thai plants.
The haze thais that had the euphoric side were my favourites because of this. The racy ones in the PHThai I didn't like as much.
Most of the GHThais were racy with a few sedative ones.
My favourite double thai the purple pheno had the euphoria I am talking about with no raciness at all. Just cruising on bliss.
Hope that helps.
My favourite pheno in the double thai was a purple one. The green ones I had took forever and didn't finish outside where I live. I assume the green phenos were taking after the Ko chang side.
To describe it I would say a happy just right feeling located in the centre of my chest. Like a bubble of joy growing in size and making my body tingle. Some of the GT's didn't have it. One did especially but it had some weird issues going on with male and female parts coming out of the fan leaves.
I've seen a drawing in Marijuana botany of that characteristic with some thai plants.
The haze thais that had the euphoric side were my favourites because of this. The racy ones in the PHThai I didn't like as much.
Most of the GHThais were racy with a few sedative ones.
My favourite double thai the purple pheno had the euphoria I am talking about with no raciness at all. Just cruising on bliss.
Hope that helps.
Croissant
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nice how would you describe the euphoria of the Guatemala comparfed to the thais?
I actually found the Guatemala denser more like the GT. It surprised me when I first smoked it. I thought here goes am I going to be sick. Two well three of the GT's did this as well.
After the rush it would become very pleasant and euphoric. The purple haze thai that I liked for its euphoric side was trippy in a different way. It didn't have the physical rush of the GT and that Guatemalan. None of the HThais did.
I'd feel out of it in a less physical more cerebral way to start off with. I really liked that purple haze thai and the purple double thai because of the blissful feelings.
When I was coming down off the Guatemala and laying down to sleep I would feel very blissful. I mixed the two and had a synergistic effect one night I think.
Had three cones of my favourite PHThai. Later on had three of Guatemala. I had to go to bed after that and I was tripping seeing visions. It was intense more like acid or liberty cap type mushrooms.
After the rush it would become very pleasant and euphoric. The purple haze thai that I liked for its euphoric side was trippy in a different way. It didn't have the physical rush of the GT and that Guatemalan. None of the HThais did.
I'd feel out of it in a less physical more cerebral way to start off with. I really liked that purple haze thai and the purple double thai because of the blissful feelings.
When I was coming down off the Guatemala and laying down to sleep I would feel very blissful. I mixed the two and had a synergistic effect one night I think.
Had three cones of my favourite PHThai. Later on had three of Guatemala. I had to go to bed after that and I was tripping seeing visions. It was intense more like acid or liberty cap type mushrooms.
I only did one run of double thai. Had five packets of tropical mix which were predominately PHT and GHT. There were some Double thai in there and about 5 Guatemalan seeds.
The double thai grow was marred that year by extreme rainfall. Cyclone Oswald and other rain events made it hard. One pheno the purple one I've mentioned stood out. It was the only one to get tom full maturity. Was very resinous with a high pistil count. Smelled divine like honey and lavender.
At the same time there were some double thai in the 3 packs of tropical mix that year. Some had really fat bases fatter than beer bottles. Those ones didn't like it and were too slow. One finished off before any of the haze thai but wasn't near as good as the purple double thai.
Did 3 runs over three years with haze thai. I only grew the green phenos one year because they weren't as potent. In the last two packs I was lucky because they were all PHT. No Guatemalan seed in those however.
Last run was off my favourite PHT. Some of the phenos reminded me of the double thai that I liked. Some even looked like double thai so that's always a possibility. The males in the tropical mix of Double thai and Haze thai looked different but who knows. I could easily have done a Double thai cross Haze thai.
Anything to get that Meao thai. I've discussed this with other people who have tried that weed and we all think that the Meao thai must have been something special.
My problem with the double thai is that it doesn't handle the cold weather we get in June like the Haze thai has shown itself to be able to. First year I had to pick the Haze thais in the beginning of June which was too early. They seem to want to go about the middle to late June. Next two runs I let them go until the frost made me pick them all by late June.
Effects wise I kind of go towards anything which shows that meao expression. I haven't planted the seeds off my favourite double thai. It's not because I don't want to. It's just it seems a bit slower than the haze thai so it probably wouldn't make it.
The double thai grow was marred that year by extreme rainfall. Cyclone Oswald and other rain events made it hard. One pheno the purple one I've mentioned stood out. It was the only one to get tom full maturity. Was very resinous with a high pistil count. Smelled divine like honey and lavender.
At the same time there were some double thai in the 3 packs of tropical mix that year. Some had really fat bases fatter than beer bottles. Those ones didn't like it and were too slow. One finished off before any of the haze thai but wasn't near as good as the purple double thai.
Did 3 runs over three years with haze thai. I only grew the green phenos one year because they weren't as potent. In the last two packs I was lucky because they were all PHT. No Guatemalan seed in those however.
Last run was off my favourite PHT. Some of the phenos reminded me of the double thai that I liked. Some even looked like double thai so that's always a possibility. The males in the tropical mix of Double thai and Haze thai looked different but who knows. I could easily have done a Double thai cross Haze thai.
Anything to get that Meao thai. I've discussed this with other people who have tried that weed and we all think that the Meao thai must have been something special.
My problem with the double thai is that it doesn't handle the cold weather we get in June like the Haze thai has shown itself to be able to. First year I had to pick the Haze thais in the beginning of June which was too early. They seem to want to go about the middle to late June. Next two runs I let them go until the frost made me pick them all by late June.
Effects wise I kind of go towards anything which shows that meao expression. I haven't planted the seeds off my favourite double thai. It's not because I don't want to. It's just it seems a bit slower than the haze thai so it probably wouldn't make it.
I remember that was Cannabiogen's solution to acclimatising the Meao thai female. I thought about it years ago. Apparently its high resin on the buds makes it a bit mould prone.
You'd laugh if I told you all the strains I've tried over the years with mould tolerance being the main consideration. Instead of bashing different strains I can talk about the ones that did work.
One Malana cream pheno from RSC. The Guatemala from ACE tropical mix. One Golden tiger. Absolutely no mould in the worst conditions. That's it but I have to say to be fair Mangobiche from Cannabiogen was stolen so I don't know if it would have got through or not.
Most Double thai phenos had good mould tolerance along with Haze thai also. A bit of brown rot that's all.
The Golden tiger was big budded too. The Guatemala had big buds but they were loose so I can understand why it got through. The Malana had wispy little buds.
You'd laugh if I told you all the strains I've tried over the years with mould tolerance being the main consideration. Instead of bashing different strains I can talk about the ones that did work.
One Malana cream pheno from RSC. The Guatemala from ACE tropical mix. One Golden tiger. Absolutely no mould in the worst conditions. That's it but I have to say to be fair Mangobiche from Cannabiogen was stolen so I don't know if it would have got through or not.
Most Double thai phenos had good mould tolerance along with Haze thai also. A bit of brown rot that's all.
The Golden tiger was big budded too. The Guatemala had big buds but they were loose so I can understand why it got through. The Malana had wispy little buds.
Shame, I didn't find any racy Purple Haze Thais. I believe those would be prime examples of haze, which nowadays shows itself only in crosses (when growing from seed obviously). All my phenos - from really purple to clearly Thai dominant - were rather dreamy.
Double Thai is much more energetic by comparison. Satva described it as spacious, which really hits the nail on the head IMO. Destroyer has that too, so the Thai has been preserved reasonably well. A purple DT pheno, though? First time I heard of it!
Double Thai is much more energetic by comparison. Satva described it as spacious, which really hits the nail on the head IMO. Destroyer has that too, so the Thai has been preserved reasonably well. A purple DT pheno, though? First time I heard of it!
