ACE's Absolute Strongest 100% Sativa
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collembola
i order direct from ace. the freshest way for me. the angola x and panama x's are some thing i ask for and the congo x. look at there gallery and go to new works and that is what i ask for and they gave me the chance to buy the congo x. dubi and the crew are top notch people in the business. if you are getting them cheaper than the ace site i would say they have some age to them. i have seeds that i ordered over 2 yrs ago and every one has cracked when dropped. so when you order from ace just ask in the comments box (i see you don't have enough post to pm dubi) if they are still available and if so i am sure he will fix you up even so they have a nice variety to choose from for freebies that you do choose from
hope it helps
peace
i order direct from ace. the freshest way for me. the angola x and panama x's are some thing i ask for and the congo x. look at there gallery and go to new works and that is what i ask for and they gave me the chance to buy the congo x. dubi and the crew are top notch people in the business. if you are getting them cheaper than the ace site i would say they have some age to them. i have seeds that i ordered over 2 yrs ago and every one has cracked when dropped. so when you order from ace just ask in the comments box (i see you don't have enough post to pm dubi) if they are still available and if so i am sure he will fix you up even so they have a nice variety to choose from for freebies that you do choose from
hope it helps
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Collembola
thankyou!, very helpful, interesting.
It only gets better and better from all comments from people dealing with Dubi and the rest of the ACE staff! Come next week I am ordering for sure!
hope it helps
Hi LostTribe,
I think we have had threads with a similar question in the past.
Regarding raw potency, the strongest sativas we have available are Malawi, Golden Tiger, Zamaldelica and Panama. They are all very very strong. Each one has its own and different psychoactivity and personality, so i would choose the ones that fit better your needs and growing conditions.
Other sativa strains like Bangi Haze, Congo and Tikal can be very strong too, but the strongest are the ones commented previously.
Oldtimer's Haze is highly inbred so it's not so strong like for example Malawi or Golden Tiger, but the effect is great, very clean with no tolerance.
If you are looking potency and yield with Oldtimer's Haze genetics, then i would recommend you Haze hybrids like Panama Haze, Purple Haze x Malawi and Haze x Kali China.
As others pointed out, it's not only about the raw potency: quality of effect and terpene profiles are also very important for the whole experience.
One strain could be a little less potent but maybe provides the effect you are looking for, so you only need to smoke more to reach the peak of potency you are looking for.
Hope it helps, let us know if you have any other doubt.
dubi
I think we have had threads with a similar question in the past.
Regarding raw potency, the strongest sativas we have available are Malawi, Golden Tiger, Zamaldelica and Panama. They are all very very strong. Each one has its own and different psychoactivity and personality, so i would choose the ones that fit better your needs and growing conditions.
Other sativa strains like Bangi Haze, Congo and Tikal can be very strong too, but the strongest are the ones commented previously.
Oldtimer's Haze is highly inbred so it's not so strong like for example Malawi or Golden Tiger, but the effect is great, very clean with no tolerance.
If you are looking potency and yield with Oldtimer's Haze genetics, then i would recommend you Haze hybrids like Panama Haze, Purple Haze x Malawi and Haze x Kali China.
As others pointed out, it's not only about the raw potency: quality of effect and terpene profiles are also very important for the whole experience.
One strain could be a little less potent but maybe provides the effect you are looking for, so you only need to smoke more to reach the peak of potency you are looking for.
Hope it helps, let us know if you have any other doubt.
dubi
Thanks Dubi this thread has helped me out a lot I wasn't even considering the malawi but with 48% of the votes currently I am atleast interested in a malawi cross if not the pure.
Anyone with experience in the difference with the Panama Haze vs the Purple Haze x malawi? If I am gonna run sativas this long atleast one version of the haze is a must regardless of my other choice/choices so if its a cross I think these 2 are the lower flowering times vs the x kalichina.....
Anyone with experience in the difference with the Panama Haze vs the Purple Haze x malawi? If I am gonna run sativas this long atleast one version of the haze is a must regardless of my other choice/choices so if its a cross I think these 2 are the lower flowering times vs the x kalichina.....
OlDirtyHuman
Well-known member
My ph x m has another 6 weeks or so left so I can't speak on the potency of the smoke yet. The smell however is the nastiest/strongest I've ever grown. Hard to describe, but when I get a good whiff of it I get a little scared.
All the best sativas I've smoked scared me at some point, usually when they are just dry enough to start sampling them. I don't mean just taking too much, I mean pure terror as part of the high. It's just a phase in the high though, it always morphs into something more kind. I have never found a strain that kept this quality during the cure, it mellows out over time.
OlDirtyHuman
Well-known member
It's a good thing more of a respect really.
The only strain I've found thus far that had zero mellow effects for me was Ace's OTH. 24 weeks and she was just like a goddess, perfect in every way. Like Dubi said basically just have to pick which one will probably suit you best. It may take you 5-10 strains or even more to find which one you like the best. After all the great reviews and talk I'm gonna have to pop a PH x W with the Panama Haze. Current Zamaldelica will be kept as a clone and not flowering. Find out which one/s I like the best then which to them if I like em more
. OTH was grown when I was only running a 400 in my Sativa tent. Can't wait to blast the new Sativas with my extra 1k Led. Good luck on what you choose man.
Not sure if we're talking about the same thing here. I am referring to the changing high over time as the harvest gets older. Much of my sativa product is initially wilder and crazier, but mellows out after a couple of months. But that doesn't mean it's now a mellow smoke, it's mellower. It's unavoidable I suppose: THC and other compounds degrade.
MadMac
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Collembola
i just get it with high THC doses, also psylocibin, i generally stay away from psylocybin unless in spaces of "wellbeing" as i find the "come up" / "assimilation" phase VERY testing (need to have good health (i suffer from poor health).
i think it has to do with the intergration of the psycoative compounds on to brain chemistry, this is for some people, like me (i consider myself "drug sensitive") is tough.
...others enjoyable.
depends on subjective human drug interaction, also familiarity with drug compound i think <
i harvested a brazilian sativa hybrid, that first sampling, was horrors and panic, but now i can smoke .6g or something and be pleasurabley up there.
> i don't attribute that to curing, but familiarity.
> i think your brain remembers, all the nuance, terpene profile / effect / links, and then you can drift more easily into "happy places", pending percieved effect
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however, as with psylocibin / very high-psychoactivity cannabis, i think, it is tooooo much a state beyond familiarity, that your brain has less and less "nuance" memory to draw upon (as this are based on "reality"), and then the horrors can come out.
i stopped smoking cannabis for several years for anxiety disorder, but now it is better (...or my mental health is further dimished)
i have only tried panama from the list, and that is VERY spacey for me, which is a very good sign as it is not "up" just powerfully spaced out, "sideways".
i hope though that the GT i bought will be "horrible", and will stay bad, for as long as i keep going back !
hope that all makes sense.
...assuming i can grow it up to standard.
i think it has to do with the intergration of the psycoative compounds on to brain chemistry, this is for some people, like me (i consider myself "drug sensitive") is tough.
...others enjoyable.
depends on subjective human drug interaction, also familiarity with drug compound i think <
i harvested a brazilian sativa hybrid, that first sampling, was horrors and panic, but now i can smoke .6g or something and be pleasurabley up there.
> i don't attribute that to curing, but familiarity.
> i think your brain remembers, all the nuance, terpene profile / effect / links, and then you can drift more easily into "happy places", pending percieved effect
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however, as with psylocibin / very high-psychoactivity cannabis, i think, it is tooooo much a state beyond familiarity, that your brain has less and less "nuance" memory to draw upon (as this are based on "reality"), and then the horrors can come out.
i stopped smoking cannabis for several years for anxiety disorder, but now it is better (...or my mental health is further dimished)
i have only tried panama from the list, and that is VERY spacey for me, which is a very good sign as it is not "up" just powerfully spaced out, "sideways".
i hope though that the GT i bought will be "horrible", and will stay bad, for as long as i keep going back !
hope that all makes sense.
...assuming i can grow it up to standard.
I hope your GT stays Naughty aswell!
Not an easy decision by any means but n the end I have decided to go with the following selections.
Purple Oldtimer Haze
Malawi
Zamaldelica
Panama
They also give 12 Golden Tiger freebies!
I plan to start with the zamadelica, purple haze and Malawi. I find it most intriguing that both come with a warning! That's what I'm talking about! It's gonna be gnarly to give all these a try.
Purple Oldtimer Haze
Malawi
Zamaldelica
Panama
They also give 12 Golden Tiger freebies!
I plan to start with the zamadelica, purple haze and Malawi. I find it most intriguing that both come with a warning! That's what I'm talking about! It's gonna be gnarly to give all these a try.
Heusinomics
Active member
Ha. A warning u say!??
Could u snap a pic of the Zamaldelica pack?
I guess I was under the assumption that they only shipped direct within Europe.
So My ACE-&-Cannabiogen gear came from a distributer n did not contain the complete breeders pack.
I'd love to see the origonal packaging and info.
Best of luck w all your sativas I'm sure you will find a winner!
Big ups respect and happy growing.
Could u snap a pic of the Zamaldelica pack?
I guess I was under the assumption that they only shipped direct within Europe.
So My ACE-&-Cannabiogen gear came from a distributer n did not contain the complete breeders pack.
I'd love to see the origonal packaging and info.
Best of luck w all your sativas I'm sure you will find a winner!
Big ups respect and happy growing.
