Some shots of the nearly dry 3b plant. I placed the colas into a paper bag today for 24 hours or so and then into jars they will go.
Ace Purple Old Timer's Haze x Meao Thai
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Very appealing looking buds you have there Humbl.
I can't help but post a link to Red Rider's thread about strains in Columbia:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=5817608&postcount=223
Red has some very authentic looking buds in his thread. Of course they are authentic, they are grown in Columbia! I would say that some of the old strains I had when I was a kid are definitely still around, although apparently on the decrease.
In the post above, he is showing off some strain he grew in a high altitude area of Columbia. I don't believe the strain is identified, but it sure turned purple.
The leaves are skinnier, but I see a vague resemblance to the shape of the leaves on my OT Purple Haze x Thai male that I got from Dubi and shown in my Avatar.
Hmm... O.K., It may be a bit of a stretch. But still, considering the cross with a Thai... I think a little. Anyway, they both have very beautiful leaf shapes.
This happens when I almost inevitably fall in love with the plants that I grow.
Cheers,
ThaiBliss
My new set up seems to be doing well. I made an organic soil mix based on the now defunct ROLS experience. It did not have proper 'cook time', but it went in the bottom of my 20 gallon tubs. The top half of soil was partially ROLS from an old batch and recycled (amended) soil per the same groups recommendations. I've got a 400 watt MH running vertical and some overhead Indagro 420 and T5's for a total of about 1000 watts. The MH is on a temp set, so it is likely running only about 6-8 hours a day.
Group shot in the cabinet.
I'm slowly turnng the light cycle down. I will start flower next week as things are looking set to explode.
Here are the PCK's
From clone.
From seed
And here is the PHT 3b looking oh so much better now that it has room to stretch it legs.
Going to get pretty exciting around these parts in a month or so.
Group shot in the cabinet.
I'm slowly turnng the light cycle down. I will start flower next week as things are looking set to explode.
Here are the PCK's
From clone.
From seed
And here is the PHT 3b looking oh so much better now that it has room to stretch it legs.
Going to get pretty exciting around these parts in a month or so.
Congrats on the new Haze Thai harvest Ur Humbl Nr8tor!
Wish you enjoy the fruits of your sativa this summer time.
Your Haze Thai thread is becoming a real interesting saga
The new cycle looks healthy and promising.
Let's see what happens next with the Haze Thai x F13 cross ...
thanks a lot for your updates!
Wish you enjoy the fruits of your sativa this summer time.
Your Haze Thai thread is becoming a real interesting saga
The new cycle looks healthy and promising.
Let's see what happens next with the Haze Thai x F13 cross ...
thanks a lot for your updates!
dubi, I will have a few of the Haze Thai x F13's running 12/12 from seed just to gauge whether the hermi traits are strong or diminished in the F1's. Realizing, of course, that not showing in F1 doesn't mean they couldn't become apparent in F2's, etc.
I picked up another pack of F13 as well as a pack of Blueberry to continue looking for a true male to mate with my 3b. Initial samples of seeded 3b are very promising!!
I also started some new seed stock including the Killer Malawi S1's (2 for 2 sprouted, but an ant seemed to cleave one of them at the base). Also started 3 seeds from an old 10 pack of Afropips Malawi Gold (as promised). Even though the seeds are almost 10 years old, all three sprouted. Hope to have at least one female of each in flower for comparison in a couple months. Also, popped (1 for 1) PHT x Malawi (fem) as well as an old friends cross OTH x TW/AK47 and three DJ Short Blueberries. In all 11 for 11 seeds sprouted and one succumbed to the ant's jaws.
I picked up another pack of F13 as well as a pack of Blueberry to continue looking for a true male to mate with my 3b. Initial samples of seeded 3b are very promising!!
I also started some new seed stock including the Killer Malawi S1's (2 for 2 sprouted, but an ant seemed to cleave one of them at the base). Also started 3 seeds from an old 10 pack of Afropips Malawi Gold (as promised). Even though the seeds are almost 10 years old, all three sprouted. Hope to have at least one female of each in flower for comparison in a couple months. Also, popped (1 for 1) PHT x Malawi (fem) as well as an old friends cross OTH x TW/AK47 and three DJ Short Blueberries. In all 11 for 11 seeds sprouted and one succumbed to the ant's jaws.
Some shots of the garden today a little over a week since timer hit 12/12.
The Organic Soil Mix I've concocted based on ROLS is working really well. All plants are seriously thriving. The two Pakistan Chitral Kush are on the far left wall.
Clone
Seed
Here is the PHT 3b from clone
The Organic Soil Mix I've concocted based on ROLS is working really well. All plants are seriously thriving. The two Pakistan Chitral Kush are on the far left wall.
Clone
Seed
Here is the PHT 3b from clone
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Yeah seems like they`re really liking that soil mix. Nice green and healthy plants.
Awesome work as always Ur Humbl Nr8tor 
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Your garden is looking great Ur Humbl Nr8tor! Also, I have to say again, over and over, that the PHT 3b is awesome looking.
I think you have an opportunity for an rough experiment here. You have grown the 3b where the soil was not as "healthy" for the plant as the new soil. However, your buds wound up looking great in the end. It would be interesting to make note of how good the smoke is from a plant that has a healthy amount of fertilizer or the best pH, or whatever is making the plants look so vigorous now. Compare that high to the buds from the previous grow.
The reason I mention this are some experiences from the past that I have had. Once I gave a cutting to a friend that was trying to teach me to eliminate nitrogen fertilizer a month before the plants start to show flowers. In our area, this is July 1st outside. I must have given this cutting, that I was so proud of, at about the beginning of July. He immediately planted outside without any nitrogen fertilizer. When I saw it at the 1st of August, it looked like it was going to die. It was very yellow and most of the bottom leaves had fallen off. I begged him to give it just a bit of nitrogen to make it healthy. He did not. He showed me the bud in October, and they were about one fourth the size of the buds that I grew, and it was so yellow, it looked like Columbian Gold from the old days. After smoking some, I judged it was something on the order of 10 times stronger than what I grew!
Before seeing this, I had been reducing the nitrogen just enough to make about half of the older leaves turn yellow and fall off by the time that the buds were ripe. This did not seem to reduce quantity noticeably. It did improve the flavor, but I was not sure about improved potency. Ever since seeing what happened to my friend's grow of my best strain, I have reduced nitrogen much more than in the past.
I don't know if this works for all strains, but I do it because some of the best I have ever grown was grown under nitrogen deficiency. The cutting that my friend grew so well was 50% Thai.
And that, my friend, is the story of my signature.
For what it's worth,
ThaiBliss
P.S. Does anyone else have similar or conflicting stories?
Your garden is looking great Ur Humbl Nr8tor! Also, I have to say again, over and over, that the PHT 3b is awesome looking.
I think you have an opportunity for an rough experiment here. You have grown the 3b where the soil was not as "healthy" for the plant as the new soil. However, your buds wound up looking great in the end. It would be interesting to make note of how good the smoke is from a plant that has a healthy amount of fertilizer or the best pH, or whatever is making the plants look so vigorous now. Compare that high to the buds from the previous grow.
The reason I mention this are some experiences from the past that I have had. Once I gave a cutting to a friend that was trying to teach me to eliminate nitrogen fertilizer a month before the plants start to show flowers. In our area, this is July 1st outside. I must have given this cutting, that I was so proud of, at about the beginning of July. He immediately planted outside without any nitrogen fertilizer. When I saw it at the 1st of August, it looked like it was going to die. It was very yellow and most of the bottom leaves had fallen off. I begged him to give it just a bit of nitrogen to make it healthy. He did not. He showed me the bud in October, and they were about one fourth the size of the buds that I grew, and it was so yellow, it looked like Columbian Gold from the old days. After smoking some, I judged it was something on the order of 10 times stronger than what I grew!
Before seeing this, I had been reducing the nitrogen just enough to make about half of the older leaves turn yellow and fall off by the time that the buds were ripe. This did not seem to reduce quantity noticeably. It did improve the flavor, but I was not sure about improved potency. Ever since seeing what happened to my friend's grow of my best strain, I have reduced nitrogen much more than in the past.
I don't know if this works for all strains, but I do it because some of the best I have ever grown was grown under nitrogen deficiency. The cutting that my friend grew so well was 50% Thai.
And that, my friend, is the story of my signature.
For what it's worth,
ThaiBliss
P.S. Does anyone else have similar or conflicting stories?
Interesting comments ThaiBliss. The last go around with 3b was grown in very similar soil. It did have the light snafu, which caused a reveg and mild stretch (additional N consumption) and it was heavily seeded, so again a large nutrient sink. It would be difficult to compare seeded and non seeded bud even in the best of circumstances (I think).
I wonder about your comparison with your friends N deprived harvest. Were there any other differences, like more intense sun for your friends grow?
For me, I am slowly on the journey to a ROLS type set up. The base soil is 33% Peat (with a slight bit of coir), 33% substrate (in this case lava rock, vermiculite and a small amount of perilite) and 33% humic matter (EWC, compost, top soil). To this base, I add a good amount of rock dust, Kelp and Karanga meal, Fish Bone meal, crab and shrimp meal, some old N guano I have laying around, lime mix (oyster shell, gypsum, dolomite lime), a little bit of greensand and langbenite, some biochar, potters clay and a few scoops of leaf litter from the yard. The soil mix these plants are in is 25% recycled from the last run and 75% fresh mix. These are 20 gallon containers filled to about 16 gallons. The last 3b was in about 7-8 gallons of soil similar to above but with less precision in measurement and no biochar or leaf litter.
I have no idea what the soil pH is nor do I adjust my filtered tap water prior to additions.
I've been dripping filtered (not pH'd) tap water around the perimeter of the containers (timed drip) and applying a mist spray (from a 1 gallon bleach type sprayer) to which I add fresh aloe puree (1x week), Ful-Power (per label instructions 1x week), Sprouted Barley Tea (1x every week or two), Fresh coconut water (1-2x per month), ACT (1x month or so), EM-1 (1 x month or so). I usually add ProTekt to the spray water.
The soil in the original 3b smart container was not maintained under the same constant levels of moisture these larger containers are receiving. I'm attempting a constant moist environment to give the living soil constituents everything they need to assist the plants in assimilating whatever components they need. I've mulched with a little dry comfrey, crab shell, Karanja meal and EWC to keep fungus gnat populations down. I'm looking forward to see how this soil mix does over the next 16 weeks or so as it nourishes the PHT 3b to seedless completion.
I'm always experimenting, but if this soil mix works well, my intent is to leave the containers as is upon harvest; chop the plant at dirt level and immediately plant new specimens ready for flower. I will then top dress with any sound mix of the following:
crab meal, neem meal, langbenite, kelp meal, mineral rock dust
and/or possibly some dried comfrey. On top of that mix, I will add an inch or so of EWC.
So let's see what the 3B does in this nearly certifiable organic goodness...we can always starve her some other time.
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Ur Humbl Nr8tor,
There was a lot of differences between my friends grow and mine. It could have been lots of reasons for the differences. I think it would be very hard to make it the same even if that was the desire.
Your grow this go around is especially vibrant looking. Now I think I understand why. Your soil has nutrients from a very wide and rich assortment of natural sources, and you seemed to have hit just the right balance. It shows.
I'm humbled by the effort you have made with your soil. I can't seem to make it work with soil. I can't control the mites and thrips. I use Hydroton and make a tea with a bunch of different stuff like sea weed, and different guanos. It is not ideal, but I have been able to go 4 or 5 years without spider mites or thrips.
Sometimes experiments just happen by accident even if they are not perfectly orchestrated. I have noticed that my winter grows tend to be better. I'm guessing wildly that it stems from the fact that it is easier to keep the temperatures from getting too high.
Peace,
ThaiBliss
There was a lot of differences between my friends grow and mine. It could have been lots of reasons for the differences. I think it would be very hard to make it the same even if that was the desire.
Your grow this go around is especially vibrant looking. Now I think I understand why. Your soil has nutrients from a very wide and rich assortment of natural sources, and you seemed to have hit just the right balance. It shows.
I'm humbled by the effort you have made with your soil. I can't seem to make it work with soil. I can't control the mites and thrips. I use Hydroton and make a tea with a bunch of different stuff like sea weed, and different guanos. It is not ideal, but I have been able to go 4 or 5 years without spider mites or thrips.
Sometimes experiments just happen by accident even if they are not perfectly orchestrated. I have noticed that my winter grows tend to be better. I'm guessing wildly that it stems from the fact that it is easier to keep the temperatures from getting too high.
Peace,
ThaiBliss
The soil seems to be working fine. I had some spider mite issues a number of months back, but that was from an infected cut that I didn't properly quarantine. We will see how good I am at keeping pest insects to a minimum while encouraging beneficials.
I agree, winter grows are best for me as well. It is quite warm in the cab right now.
Regards,
I agree, winter grows are best for me as well. It is quite warm in the cab right now.
Regards,
Humbl Nr8tor, I always look forward to seeing your updates. So did ya pollinate the pure purple haze with F13 as well?
I did although the amount of seeds produced wasn't huge. I need to sort through them to see how many mature seeds I actually got.
I've got a PHT x F13 growing straight flower from seed. I will start a few more and see how they turn out.
These are shots from about 1 week ago.
Group Shot Above.
Mostly of PCK cut
PCK Seed
PHT 3b just starting to throw pistils.
Group Shot Above.
Mostly of PCK cut
PCK Seed
PHT 3b just starting to throw pistils.
Some additional shots from today.
PCK's
PHT3b
PCK's
PHT3b
nice looking setup Nr8tor, they should finish beautifully in there.
Hello Ur Hmbl Nr8tor,
It has been a while since your last PHT 3b picture. Actually, it has only been about 10 days, but of all the plants I look forward to seeing updates to, your 3b and Yoss33's Zamaldelica are the ones that I get withdrawals from not seeing in a while. I'm hoping you will give us an update soon.
Hope all is well.
Thanks,
ThaiBliss
It has been a while since your last PHT 3b picture. Actually, it has only been about 10 days, but of all the plants I look forward to seeing updates to, your 3b and Yoss33's Zamaldelica are the ones that I get withdrawals from not seeing in a while. I'm hoping you will give us an update soon.
Hope all is well.
Thanks,
ThaiBliss
Thanks Randy, it's a cozy little set up. The bare HPS is a wee to close to a few plants. I've got a couple scorched Strawberry Diesel fans, but it's working for it being a warm summer. I can't wait until this winter. I should be well into my second full run in these no till tubs.
