Absolute Amber from Banana Silver Ladyboys

[gunnaknow]

Ah, you're only making amber for personal use, so the market value doesn't matter. I see that medicalgreen raised the issue of price, not you.

 

[Gray Wolf]

It's not really a loss because the idea is to take the premium grade first and then do a second or even third wash for the remaining cannabinoids.

Even though extracts can be more than 5 x stronger than premium bud, gram for gram, they don't usually fetch 5 x the price. You might be able to fetch the true value of an extract by adding it to edibles like candies, as it then becomes a value added product. You might need a special permit to make edibles, I don't know. You'd also have to use a suitable, edible solvent.

Good point brother GK! Unfortunately locally, adding a gram of cannabis extract to a 100 gram medible, counts as 101 grams of cannabis.

IMO, the ultimate medible to die or commit mahem and murder for, is one of Eloquentsolution's cherry or huckleberry truffles. Trying different oil extractions, she has settled on using cannabis acetate, which has a mild taste as compared to some of the extracts, and more rapidly passes the blood brain barrier.

Here in Oregon, the truffle is saleable, but none of the cannabis that goes into it. Making acetate from already extracted oil is an afternoon job and uses difficult to obtain chemicals, besides requiring an investment in equipment, in addition to training.

Most certainly that limits the market servers, because even without charging for the originating cannabis oil, the sustainable market price is circumscribed by mounting material and labor costs.

Makes you wonder where this whole thing is headed, does it not?

 

[gunnaknow]

Wow, that's harsh brother GW, a 100g medible counting as 100g of cannabis! While cannabinoid salts like acetate or citrate would be the ideal for flavor neutrality, you might be able to make an extract considerably less flavorful by water curing the trim or kiff before extraction and/or doing a lengthy purge with heat to drive off more of the volatiles. Those truffles sound devine! Things like cherry, cranberry, orange and lemon would definately help balance out the flavor profile of the extract. It's a bit like blending a perfume, you need some fruity or light floral notes to counterbalance the earthy, musky notes.

 

[gunnaknow]

dude I dunno how my buddy does it but he sells amber grams for between 40-60.. There's got to be a way.... He acknowledges that it yields less than other methods, but he still gets good enough yield to sell g's for that low of a price..

You'll probably get the largest yield of amber glass with butane but it still needs to be a quick wash, if you're not to pick up too much crap. Here's a generous amount of amber glass made by Leocadius, by passing butane through a pipe filled with trim. This would ofcourse still need to be redissolved in alcohol, chilled and filtered at a very fine level to become an absolute amber.

 

[jump117]

>>>>>>>>>> PET session (prequel) <<<<<<<<<<

~10 gram of undeveloped buds were frozen in 600 ml PET bottle 32 mm throat
and sprayed with 250 ml of frozen "London" butane to wash for 30 minutes.




Butane Hash Oleoresin

Wax flakes float in solution EtOH 96%

In the same bottle in the same way later was treated decarboxylated cake.
Resin residues on the walls were washed with ethanol.
Effects of solvents does not change the appearance and elasticity of PET bottle,
which may well serve as a container for freezing and storage, and extractor.

 

[dope_roor]

do you simply invert the bottle and allow for the built up pressure to spray the butane out? is additional shaking or squeezing necessary?

 

[meduser180056]

I know someone who has been producing top quality amber glass shatter for about 10 years now. He has supplied many clubs with it and he makes pounds of it so it can definetly be mass produced... His batches are extremely consistent even if he uses different kinds of trim batch to batch. It's gone for up to 100 a gram in some clubs and he used to wholesale it for 44 a gram. Past couple years tho shits been changing like u guys said clubs don't wanna pay over 25 per gram max usually. He finally started having trouble moving it cuz of that. Before that people couldnt get enuf. He has since dropped his wholesale price some, but it moves much slower these days. The concentrate game has blown up big time.

 

[jump117]

dope_roor, bottle is not corked tightly and the excess pressure is not formed,
the liquid butane is poured from a bottle into a funnel with a coffee filter in the same way as any other solvent.

During the extraction butane is shaken and stirred as often as possible because,
unlike the tubular extractor, there does not appear movement of the solvent under pressure.

No squeezing used. Better thermo-insulation is needed.

 

[dope_roor]

dope_roor, bottle is not corked tightly and the excess pressure is not formed,
the liquid butane is poured from a bottle into a funnel with a coffee filter in the same way as any other solvent.

During the extraction butane is shaken and stirred as often as possible because,
unlike the tubular extractor, there does not appear movement of the solvent under pressure.

No squeezing used. Better thermo-insulation is needed.

great! i need to look into this procedure

 

[jump117]

dope_roor, I look forward to your great new photos!

PET has good resistance to butane but exactly how good is hard to know without technical data beyond the scope of most chemical resistance charts. I'd recommend opting for borosilicate glass/pyrex or stainless steel when you have a choice.

Hey gunnaknow!
Of course I have a choice and I think the best extractor is a glass thermos flask, which no doubt is chemically inert.
Interest to plastics due to the desire to avoid condensation of atmospheric moisture on the frozen material
under shifting it from the container into the extractor.

Grow friends are using PP (polypropylene) ice cream containers for the storage buds and trim in the freezer,
the other for this purpose use PE ziplocks. I suppose PET bottle with wide throat is also suitable.

Attractive is the idea of using containers as the extractors.
In my opinion, PET has been successfully tested,
and what is known about resistance to butane PP and PE (HDPE, LDPE)?


Extract from decarboxylated cake can not be called amber, it never hardens.

 

[ImaginaryFriend]

Great thread. Excellent presentation of very interesting information.

 

[Gray Wolf]

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Attractive is the idea of using containers as the extractors.
In my opinion, PET has been successfully tested,
and what is known about resistance to butane PP and PE (HDPE, LDPE)?

Here's a Harrington Engineering manual page.

 

[jump117]

What does the X sign for polyethylene with butane?

 

[Gray Wolf]

What does the X sign for polyethylene with butane?

Unsuitable.

 

[jump117]

And what does the 180 for the PP and butane? It is a pity that the table does not have PET.

The last session of the extraction I spent in the usual mode 1+1 hrs,
nothing new except a few weekend pictures of a “viscous fluid of a golden color”.

 

[Gray Wolf]

And what does the 180 for the PP and butane? It is a pity that the table does not have PET.

It means suitable up to 180F.

Yeah, this plastics engineering handbook dates back to 1990. Being retired, I haven't updated it.

 

[jump117]

Mold them into a single chip. Could not choose from two facial expressions.

 

[jump117]

It means suitable up to 180F.

Does it mean spray into zip-lock safe?

 

[jump117]

These chips are made from amber, which in the ingot has a dark amber color.

 

[Gray Wolf]

These chips are made from amber, which in the ingot has a dark amber color.

Jump, me lad, besides extraction technology, you have a talent for presentation and I admire not only your artistry, but your lighting and camera techniques.

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