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Im going to try this sometime this week, wondering if Everclear would be good to use for the ethanol? and after you make the BHO do you cook off all the butane? or can I just get it down to an oil then add the ethanol? thanks for the help guys
Yes you can use 190 proof Everclear.
I remove the butane first, add the ethanol, and then stick it in the freezer.
cool! so after the bho is liquid I put it in the freezer or even right after i add the etho to the BHo?? and then coffee filter again?also I only have access to a sprayer style exreactor, would that work? if not how could i make a coffee pot style like you have?
thanks for your help i will post results
thanks for your help i will post results
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Don't put butane in the freezer or fridge unless its in the can.. If its a liquid pool of butane, this can happen (b/c of sparks in the freezer)
http://www.katu.com/news/106087888.html
A small spark from a freezer ignited butane gas that had built up inside a home as a result of someone extracting THC from marijuana Monday afternoon.
The explosion blew the door off the fridge and through a wall in the home, investigators said.
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You should read through this entire thread if you have not already
http://www.katu.com/news/106087888.html
A small spark from a freezer ignited butane gas that had built up inside a home as a result of someone extracting THC from marijuana Monday afternoon.
The explosion blew the door off the fridge and through a wall in the home, investigators said.
You should read through this entire thread if you have not already
Hi bukket !
Currently, I prefer to use a thermos flask as an extractor,
which in my experience, has replaced the glass teapot, which had replaced the extractor tube.
In order to accommodate a teapot, coffeepot, PET bottle or thermos,
you need to mount the port to enter the nozzle of the can into the lid of the extractor.
A set of these plastic adapters are usually present on the can cap.
The adapter must be very tightly inserted into the prepared hole.
When you install in a plastic lid, a hole is made slightly smaller and softened by heating before inserting adapter.
Narrow part of the adapter should be cut. The nozzle of the can should protrude from the cut-off adapter,
so nothing is reduced flow of gas during the filling.
Of course, you can use a tubular extractor.
But for further dilution in ethanol, it is better not to spray a resinous gas directly into the evaporator flat plate,
and use compact vessel with high sides, which is convenient to stirring ethanol, and then put it in the freezer.
I'm happy with my ball-shaped glass teapot, for one can it fits perfectly.
Ethanol is added immediately after the end of the active evaporation of butane when new bubbles stopped appearing.
Do not waste time on purging, from a solution in ethanol remains of butane go easily.
Ethanol will dissolve concrete from the walls of the evaporation vessel with stirring.
At room temperature, the wax flakes are not always separated.
Probably the amount of wax is determined by its content in the original plant material.
What is called depending on the variety.
Perhaps the amount of wax is also dependent on temperature of butane.
At another site MTgrower showed a huge amount of wax flakes
that fell in ethanol from the extract obtained with butane under pressure at room temperature.
I never have seen such a lot of sediment when use refrigerated butane.
Precipitated flakes should be filtered.
This can be done immediately or after an additional freeze-out, depending on the urgency and demands.
Purified from the wax flakes solution is evaporated on a flat evaporation dish and collected.
Comment on deleted photo
Originally posted by MTgrower, 05-30-2011, 08:53 PM
Also sorry for removing all my photos. My lawyer made me feel like a real idiot for even being a member at these type of forums, let alone posting photos.
Anyhow, whatever damage I've done to myself has been done, but I won't be posting any more photos or discussing much of anything.
Hopefully I won't end up in prison.
Currently, I prefer to use a thermos flask as an extractor,
which in my experience, has replaced the glass teapot, which had replaced the extractor tube.
In order to accommodate a teapot, coffeepot, PET bottle or thermos,
you need to mount the port to enter the nozzle of the can into the lid of the extractor.
A set of these plastic adapters are usually present on the can cap.
The adapter must be very tightly inserted into the prepared hole.
When you install in a plastic lid, a hole is made slightly smaller and softened by heating before inserting adapter.
Narrow part of the adapter should be cut. The nozzle of the can should protrude from the cut-off adapter,
so nothing is reduced flow of gas during the filling.
Of course, you can use a tubular extractor.
But for further dilution in ethanol, it is better not to spray a resinous gas directly into the evaporator flat plate,
and use compact vessel with high sides, which is convenient to stirring ethanol, and then put it in the freezer.
I'm happy with my ball-shaped glass teapot, for one can it fits perfectly.
Ethanol is added immediately after the end of the active evaporation of butane when new bubbles stopped appearing.
Do not waste time on purging, from a solution in ethanol remains of butane go easily.
Ethanol will dissolve concrete from the walls of the evaporation vessel with stirring.
At room temperature, the wax flakes are not always separated.
Probably the amount of wax is determined by its content in the original plant material.
What is called depending on the variety.
Perhaps the amount of wax is also dependent on temperature of butane.
At another site MTgrower showed a huge amount of wax flakes
that fell in ethanol from the extract obtained with butane under pressure at room temperature.
I never have seen such a lot of sediment when use refrigerated butane.
Precipitated flakes should be filtered.
This can be done immediately or after an additional freeze-out, depending on the urgency and demands.
Purified from the wax flakes solution is evaporated on a flat evaporation dish and collected.
Comment on deleted photo
Originally posted by MTgrower, 05-30-2011, 08:53 PM
Also sorry for removing all my photos. My lawyer made me feel like a real idiot for even being a member at these type of forums, let alone posting photos.
Anyhow, whatever damage I've done to myself has been done, but I won't be posting any more photos or discussing much of anything.
Hopefully I won't end up in prison.
Thanks alot for your help jump and everyone! im really excited to try this, im going to use a oz of frozen dry bottom of the bag, with a frozen tubular exractor, chilled london butane, and 190 proof everclear. how long in the freezer befor all the waxes are solid? and coffee filter is how I remove them from the solution right?
thanks again guys!!!
thanks again guys!!!
gunnaknow said (click):
chill the solution for 24 hours, rather than just a few hours. It takes quite a long time for a liquid to go from room temperature down to -20°C and 4 hours will only just about get it to below 0°C. It is true that the majority of the waxes and oleaginous substances will precipitate from the alcohol at ambient temperatures but there are still shorter chained waxes that can be removed upon sufficient refridgeration. If the alcohol is perfectly clear at -20°C then it truly is an absolute.
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yes, remove waxes via coffee filter
chill the solution for 24 hours, rather than just a few hours. It takes quite a long time for a liquid to go from room temperature down to -20°C and 4 hours will only just about get it to below 0°C. It is true that the majority of the waxes and oleaginous substances will precipitate from the alcohol at ambient temperatures but there are still shorter chained waxes that can be removed upon sufficient refridgeration. If the alcohol is perfectly clear at -20°C then it truly is an absolute.
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yes, remove waxes via coffee filter
Thanks again for the quick response Jump, after all the waxes are removed do you cook it off on a stove on low heat? or just let it evap naturally? or does it matter? thanks again, this will be my first time using 190 proof everclear(normally jst did butane tube extraction or iso)
Before the evaporation of ethanol, all processes were cold.
The colder evaporation, the more flavor will remain in the product.
But with evaporation, the viscosity of the extract increases, tending toward Amber brittle hardness.
Increased viscosity stops the natural cold evaporation.
To remove ethanol from solid amber, it has to melt. I cook it off on a steam bath.
Pan with boiling water, covered with evaporation dish as lid.
The bottom of the dish does not touch the water, and heated by steam.
In appearance, the temperature is set slightly below the boiling point of ethanol.
I've never used isopropyl extraction, but know his piercing smell.
Food and potable ethanol does not produce such a dramatic impression with its smell,
sometimes it can even be enjoyable.
Shit, I second that, where do I vote?
Alright guys, so tonight I tryed my first shot at making AA,
Ingredients:
1 Tubular sprayer type extractor, pre chilled in the freezer filled with herb for 6 hours
28 grams dryed bottom of the bag( small nugs and shake ) Frozen for 6 hours
2 bottles of London butane, chilled for 5 hours in a cold room aprox 16 degrees
1 Coffee pot(12 cup)
1 Pyrex dish, used for double boiling
extractor was grabbed and butane from the freezer and the cold room immediatly rushed outdoors and sprayed directly into glass coffee pot, 1 oz of herb and 2 cans of butane.
after it was finished spraying i had some water boiled and held the coffee pot above the water for steam heat( still outdoors ) untill all the liquid and bubbles stopped appearing, then I added the EtHO(Everclear 190 proof) to the coffee pot and disolved the solution then poured the solution into a cup
and placed it in the freezer, going to leave it for 24 hours then filter with coffee filter and evaporate with steam heat VIA double boiler.
let me know if you have any advice or tips guys everything is much apreciated
Ingredients:
1 Tubular sprayer type extractor, pre chilled in the freezer filled with herb for 6 hours
28 grams dryed bottom of the bag( small nugs and shake ) Frozen for 6 hours
2 bottles of London butane, chilled for 5 hours in a cold room aprox 16 degrees
1 Coffee pot(12 cup)
1 Pyrex dish, used for double boiling
extractor was grabbed and butane from the freezer and the cold room immediatly rushed outdoors and sprayed directly into glass coffee pot, 1 oz of herb and 2 cans of butane.
after it was finished spraying i had some water boiled and held the coffee pot above the water for steam heat( still outdoors ) untill all the liquid and bubbles stopped appearing, then I added the EtHO(Everclear 190 proof) to the coffee pot and disolved the solution then poured the solution into a cup
and placed it in the freezer, going to leave it for 24 hours then filter with coffee filter and evaporate with steam heat VIA double boiler.
let me know if you have any advice or tips guys everything is much apreciated
In my opinion, you did everything correctly and got the solution of the wonderful colors.
Refrigerated butane dissolves slowly, and tubular extraction occurs rapidly.
I suspect that the remaining cake can be extracted again.
Soaking in a refrigerated butane can be extended to two hours or longer.
I recommend to start the evaporation of a solution with small portions
in order to compare the dynamics of evaporation of a thin layer vs. thick.
Refrigerated butane dissolves slowly, and tubular extraction occurs rapidly.
I suspect that the remaining cake can be extracted again.
Soaking in a refrigerated butane can be extended to two hours or longer.
I recommend to start the evaporation of a solution with small portions
in order to compare the dynamics of evaporation of a thin layer vs. thick.
I predict you will have some good stuff with your process!
Two cans of butane for one ounce would be excessive for the material that I personally run.
You might try one on your next run, and do a second extraction, after dumping and repacking the tube.
Looking good and looking forward to hearing your results!
It will happen the fastests with as large as possible surface area and least depth.
You will also get the greatest amount of atmospheric relative humidity condensation, so you will have to deal with the water if you live in a moist climate.
Here in the PNW, I use a deeper, narrower container, to float out the atmosphere, but it requires more stringent efforts to fully evaporate.
As I read you bro, you are saying to discharge the butane into a hot dish, so that the ice doesn't form, to produce water issues.
If that is so, I have found the same thing.
