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? about 3 gallon pot size and yield
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If you transplant, go with an air bag of some kind. Three gal should be OK, but 5 won't hurt. Let watering interval be your guide. The cost of bags is pretty insignificant in the grand scheme.
If it were me, I would transplant to a bag, cut those babes back by 1/2 to 2/3. Keep them short going into 12/12 stretch. If you let them get tall, you'll have a bunch of superfluous stuff at the bottom. Anything more than 24" below the tip top of the plant should be removed. Prune them back and feed well, let them put out new tips 3-6", then go to bloom daylength.
Bags are a whole different ball game than plastic pots. No root circling. When a root hits the air at the pot, it stops there. It is air pruned and then will branch all back down the root. In coco80%/perlite20%, I get a seriously dense root system all thru the medium. This allows you to grow big plants in a 3 gal.
You need to prune them almost severly, and let them put out, then 12/12, because after going to 12/12, you don't want to prune for height because if will hurt yield, maybe by a lot. Good luck. -granger
If it were me, I would transplant to a bag, cut those babes back by 1/2 to 2/3. Keep them short going into 12/12 stretch. If you let them get tall, you'll have a bunch of superfluous stuff at the bottom. Anything more than 24" below the tip top of the plant should be removed. Prune them back and feed well, let them put out new tips 3-6", then go to bloom daylength.
Bags are a whole different ball game than plastic pots. No root circling. When a root hits the air at the pot, it stops there. It is air pruned and then will branch all back down the root. In coco80%/perlite20%, I get a seriously dense root system all thru the medium. This allows you to grow big plants in a 3 gal.
You need to prune them almost severly, and let them put out, then 12/12, because after going to 12/12, you don't want to prune for height because if will hurt yield, maybe by a lot. Good luck. -granger
Lol OP has a mild case of "OVS" (over veg syndrome) imo.. I suffer from this greatly also!
I have quite alot of experience with 3 & 5 gallon soil differences so i feel qualified to post here..
Yield wise OP your going to see probably around a 25-30% decrease in yield using 3 gallons over 5 with identical veg times.. APPROXIMATELY. This shouldn't matter too much as your larger quantity of plants should more than make up for it. Your going to have issues in that tent with getting light to all the bud sites imo.. Really clean up the girls and focus on all tops like you alluded too.
If your going to do 30 day veg definitely go 5 gallons everytime. This becomes more important obviously the longer the flowering time too. You will get away with 3 gallons but you may experience some rootbound symptoms towards the end of flower.. No biggie really just observe and learn. Watering frequency will be somewhere around every 3 days for 3 gallons depending on your setup.
For 3 gallons i wouldn't recommend vegging much longer than 3 weeks whereas with 5 gallons you can push it to 4-5 weeks if your really keen.
That is all
Blaze on stoners
Darth
P.S Next time plan better its good your on here asking but if you had of thought your whole op through many times before you begun you would not be asking this question at day 20 or so into veg!
I have quite alot of experience with 3 & 5 gallon soil differences so i feel qualified to post here..
Yield wise OP your going to see probably around a 25-30% decrease in yield using 3 gallons over 5 with identical veg times.. APPROXIMATELY. This shouldn't matter too much as your larger quantity of plants should more than make up for it. Your going to have issues in that tent with getting light to all the bud sites imo.. Really clean up the girls and focus on all tops like you alluded too.
If your going to do 30 day veg definitely go 5 gallons everytime. This becomes more important obviously the longer the flowering time too. You will get away with 3 gallons but you may experience some rootbound symptoms towards the end of flower.. No biggie really just observe and learn. Watering frequency will be somewhere around every 3 days for 3 gallons depending on your setup.
For 3 gallons i wouldn't recommend vegging much longer than 3 weeks whereas with 5 gallons you can push it to 4-5 weeks if your really keen.
That is all
Blaze on stoners
Darth
P.S Next time plan better its good your on here asking but if you had of thought your whole op through many times before you begun you would not be asking this question at day 20 or so into veg!
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Iron_Lion
I just got my all time best yield from 3 gal of soil. 5oz on the dot.
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Good one iron lion,I consistently get 5-6 oz plants in 3 gal classic 1200 container,I tried the 5 gal classic 2000 for flowering and found not a lot of difference at all.There is a lot to say about large containers and flowering size,but there is also a lot to say about using all of your soil.In the classic 600 2 gal nursery size container,I normally veg to about 30 inches in height with a strain like blockhead.I dont transplant until I am having to water evry other day.Then I'll go into the classic 1200,stuff as much dirt on the sides and bottom as is humanly possible,then go 12/12.You will have root growth during the stretch then it basically subsides,I can get many more 3 gal in my 8 by 8 room than 5 gal containers.
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Good one iron lion,I consistently get 5-6 oz plants in 3 gal classic 1200 container,I tried the 5 gal classic 2000 for flowering and found not a lot of difference at all.There is a lot to say about large containers and flowering size,but there is also a lot to say about using all of your soil.In the classic 600 2 gal nursery size container,I normally veg to about 30 inches in height with a strain like blockhead.I dont transplant until I am having to water evry other day.Then I'll go into the classic 1200,stuff as much dirt on the sides and bottom as is humanly possible,then go 12/12.You will have root growth during the stretch then it basically subsides,I can get many more 3 gal in my 8 by 8 room than 5 gal containers.
Since this thread is about pot size I have a question. I have a large grow with many plants, and the problem is I didn't use my 5 gallon pots like I usually do, they are in 3 gallon pots and quite large. My question is, they are 4 weeks into bud so will it be beneficial to transplant in to 5 gallon pots or just a waste of time? The strain is an 8 week strain so no more than 4 weeks left. Any benefit?
Sorry to ask this here, the thread pertains to this question and thought it was relevent. If not let me know and sorry.
TGT
Sorry to ask this here, the thread pertains to this question and thought it was relevent. If not let me know and sorry.
TGT
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ekomsi
Im testing out 3gal smart pots vs 3gal plastic pots, hoping I get 4oz per pot average
TGT - I would leave them and just record the yield difference ..instead of running the risk of losing yield for a transplant ur not even sure would increase the yield ..with only 4 weeks left its not worth it to me ..
OP- somebody was spot on with the 3 day watering and pots drying out faster but I think ur yield should still be ok ..I would worry more about height issues than root bound ..
I always ran 3 gallons and sometimes even with a long veg the pants didn't use all of the dirt but it's strain dependent ..I see people saying 18 is 2 much I think he's just fine ..I ran 12 3 gallons in a 4x2 ..just prune and keep constant airflow of cool air and u should be fine ..
Stale hot air in that space = bud rot ..it's gonna be a bitxh to water but that's about it
OP- somebody was spot on with the 3 day watering and pots drying out faster but I think ur yield should still be ok ..I would worry more about height issues than root bound ..
I always ran 3 gallons and sometimes even with a long veg the pants didn't use all of the dirt but it's strain dependent ..I see people saying 18 is 2 much I think he's just fine ..I ran 12 3 gallons in a 4x2 ..just prune and keep constant airflow of cool air and u should be fine ..
Stale hot air in that space = bud rot ..it's gonna be a bitxh to water but that's about it
Thanks, that's what I was thinking, but feel much better hearing it from another experienced grower. They are now starting to bulk up nicely. I have grown this strain many times in 5 gallon pots but never 3. Nothing was done different other than using different sized pots so I'll see the difference quite easily and post the results here. I was not expecting to do an experiment when I seen this thread. It just turned out that way, so fortunately something good might come from this screw up! LOL.
Even if yield is not effected too much I will still go back to 5 gallons as I won't have to water every single night. Also, with the plants being fairly tall they get top heavy when the Promix dries out and I'm always worried they are going to fall over and into the light. Luckily most are tied to the ceiling to support buds. To say it mildly, I am not happy with this grow at all. The other I have at a friends house are perfect so it should even things out to being a normal haul. I have to learn not to slack. Procrastination is my nemesis.
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I'm using about 20gal of promix per 600w bulb effectively... You can divide it up as it suits your style homie! All peace
I usually place six, five gallon pots around each 1000 watt HPS hung vertically and let the plants veg for aproximately six weeks. This seems to be fine even for faster vegging plants, although I do have to water more often. In the past I have used larger pots with the same strain and grow style and did not notice any increase in yield. I did get to water less which was nice, but I am at the grow everyday anyways so it's really no hastle. Works out to 25 gallons of Promix per 1000 watt bulb so it's really close to your number Lederman.
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TGT I was wondering if you used two different pot sizes besides the finishing 3 gal?The reason I ask is when I really let the plant grow into the pot before transplanting,I'm normally watering every third day when my plants are finishing.You should never have to water every day.On a rare occasion trying a new pheno I may end up having to water every other day,but that is rare.I flower big plants too 4-5 foot sometimes but I like 3-4 ft indicas.Twice a week or every third day works best for me
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TGT I was wondering if you used two different pot sizes besides the finishing 3 gal?The reason I ask is when I really let the plant grow into the pot before transplanting,I'm normally watering every third day when my plants are finishing.You should never have to water every day.On a rare occasion trying a new pheno I may end up having to water every other day,but that is rare.I flower big plants too 4-5 foot sometimes but I like 3-4 ft indicas.Twice a week or every third day works best for me
Floidian, I believe you are correct in I have to water too often at the end of flower. The reason is I am using too small a pot for each plant. I have used a little larger pots and have found a larger yield, but the place I am in now it is hard to bring in and out Promix, so I tend to go smaller than I should. I do transplant three times before ending my pot size though. Usually even though my pot soze is lacking I get a pound and a half per 1000 watt consistantly. When I was at the other place with the same strain and proper sized pots I got 2 pounds every 1000.
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gogetta4293
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lst on that many plants in such a small area will definitely cause "havoc" in the end...try taking a few out so that the lst training can really benefit from the light that it wont be able to benefit from if the tent is too crowded...good luck on everything...gg
