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A question for the growers using Jacks 5-12-26

Treetroit City

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I find giving my ro water 1 ml of protekt per gallon allows my ph to stay stable over the course of a week. 1 ml plus jacks/calnit lands me right around 5.9.
 

p0opstlnksal0t

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For drinking water I pass my 20ppm RO water through a big blue filter housing filled with crushed sea coral calcium. Turns the water alkaline with a pH of 8.0 and 100ppm
 

Treetroit City

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For drinking water I pass my 20ppm RO water through a big blue filter housing filled with crushed sea coral calcium. Turns the water alkaline with a pH of 8.0 and 100ppm
Not to get too far off topic but where does one find crushed sea coral ca? Are you talking powder?
 

Big_Al's_Buds

Active member
For drinking water I pass my 20ppm RO water through a big blue filter housing filled with crushed sea coral calcium. Turns the water alkaline with a pH of 8.0 and 100ppm

Have you tried using this water in your garden? Depending on high the alkalinity is it may work great. Some extra calcium and alk to stabilize. Would need a water test to really tell.
 

p0opstlnksal0t

Active member
Have you tried using this water in your garden? Depending on high the alkalinity is it may work great. Some extra calcium and alk to stabilize. Would need a water test to really tell.

No I use well water. Just too time consuming filling up a 300g res and 60g res with my roommate unit
 

Big_Al's_Buds

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No I use well water. Just too time consuming filling up a 300g res and 60g res with my roommate unit

No shit.. 300g would take a week to fill with an RO. I need to fill 120g and it takes about 3 days.

Iv used my well water in the past, but find I get airy buds with it for some reason.. all else staying the same
 

bsgospel

Bat Macumba
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120g over three days? You might need to get a better unit or change the filters. I can get 300 overnight and that's slow for me. With clean membranes, I can usually get about 600-800 in a day and night.
 

Miraculous Meds

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120g over three days? You might need to get a better unit or change the filters. I can get 300 overnight and that's slow for me. With clean membranes, I can usually get about 600-800 in a day and night.



They are probably using a 100 or 200gpd unit. I upgraded to a 1000gpd unit, and it fills my 200gal bulk res's in less than a day no prob. Probably needs a booster pump to hit closer to the actual 1000gpd though.


Oh, and I use whole house pre sediment n carbon filters to get long life and quick fills out of my ro system. Makes a big difference for me.
 

Big_Al's_Buds

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They are probably using a 100 or 200gpd unit. I upgraded to a 1000gpd unit, and it fills my 200gal bulk res's in less than a day no prob. Probably needs a booster pump to hit closer to the actual 1000gpd though.


Oh, and I use whole house pre sediment n carbon filters to get long life and quick fills out of my ro system. Makes a big difference for me.

Yes its just a cheap amazon RO 100gpd with booster pump. Goes through an iron filter, softener, whole house filter before to RO. If it goes right form well to RO the filters are clogged in less then 2 weeks.

Can you hook up a 1000gpd to a standard house? Would such a huge bootser pump fuck with the back pressure of the whole place?
 

p0opstlnksal0t

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The bigger 1000gpd units are the hydro logic units. I've heard mixed reviews on them.

My apec RO system is 100% American made along with its filters. its only 150gpd and cost about 1.5x what the standard 1000gpd hydro logic costs. But I didn't want to deal with petrochemicals leaching into the water because of cheap Chinese parts like every other RO unit I've used in the past.
 

p0opstlnksal0t

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Yes its just a cheap amazon RO 100gpd with booster pump. Goes through an iron filter, softener, whole house filter before to RO. If it goes right form well to RO the filters are clogged in less then 2 weeks.

Can you hook up a 1000gpd to a standard house? Would such a huge bootser pump fuck with the back pressure of the whole place?

They just use higher surface area membranes... they can be used like any other standard smaller unit
 

Big_Al's_Buds

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They just use higher surface area membranes... they can be used like any other standard smaller unit

Interesting. I thought it may require a stronger pump to bring the pressure up that high. Most I have seen at high gpd use 3/8 of 1" lines and large pumps. TBH im not sure how the pump actually work, and if the would suck more water the house filtration system is willing to give it.
 

Absolem

Active member
Anyone use Jacks in a stock solution? I mixed some up and after a couple weeks or so it chunked up and wouldn't mix back up.


Did you mix it up with tap water?
Try mixing it with "Distilled Water". You can buy a gallon of it at most stores for a $1. Distilled water has no trace minerals like tap water or "Drinking Water" for the Jacks to react with.
 

Big_Al's_Buds

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Did you mix it up with tap water?
Try mixing it with "Distilled Water". You can buy a gallon of it at most stores for a $1. Distilled water has no trace minerals like tap water or "Drinking Water" for the Jacks to react with.

If you read back through this thread there are pages and pages of talk of stock solutions. I personally never had luck with it, but lots do.

When I speak to Krystal Snyder about it, she recommended mixing the stock solution in my well water, and that would stabilize the RO.
 

MrBungle

Well-known member
I've been using distilled for my raw salt concentrations for the last few batches... I think I'm going back to tap water... I saw some precips using both.... but the plants seem to like it better with the tap for concentrates....

People go ape shit over precips.... To me its not a huge deal...
 

Absolem

Active member
For those mixing stock solutions with Jacks or any other salt based fertilizer it's normal to see some sediment in the stock solution jug after mixing. The sediment is from the impurities in the salts and not from precipitation.

Fertilizers like Jacks, calcium nitrate, magnesium sulfate, etc are usually 99.5%-99.9% pure. This means if you mix 100 grams of Jacks into a stock solution you should see anywhere from 1/2 gram or less of "impurities" on the bottom after the jug sets for awhile.
 
Did you mix it up with tap water?
Try mixing it with "Distilled Water". You can buy a gallon of it at most stores for a $1. Distilled water has no trace minerals like tap water or "Drinking Water" for the Jacks to react with.

I did only use tap, and it was fine for a few weeks, but maybe I'll try distilled and see if I have better luck, thanks.
 
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