A lil taste of pakistan

[Chitownstoner]

WOW its great to see my home country smoking some good green. I hope to visit my family in pakistan soon. Im going to be looking for that bhang! I speak urdu but i don't kno my area in pakistan. My family is from Karachi. Does anybody know where to score some around there?

 

[mriko]

Also whats it like for a female to travel in that part the world pretty risky ???? would love to drag my gurl along.

No pretty risky at all. Pakistan is one of the safest countries inthe world to travel. People are great very welcoming and extremely respectfull of ladies (wel, like everywhere there are some porn-fed guys who think of western ladies as easy ones...)

Last May in Delhi I met an american girl I had met 3 years before in Peshawar. She had spent a month and half or so in Pakistan, and kept travelling since, going Austral Africa, Sri Lanka, Nepal and then India. FOr her, Pakistan was best and she told me that Pakistani men where best in the world. Very respectfull, helping, courtuous. all perfect !

As long as you respect local customs and listen people advises (not like this Japanee girl who, not listening warnings from locals, went to trek with grimsly caracter from Astor and was later found dead...).

Chitown, Karachi is alas not the best place for scoring good hash. A friend of mine used to live there and it was hard to get the right thing. Try some rave party (carefull, some are for couples only), maybe you can score something there.

Irie !

 

[ngakpa]

Pakistanis reject bin Laden's "interference"

Pakistanis reject bin Laden's "interference"

I hope people don't feel this is unnecessarily political

By Faris Ali Reuters - 2 hours 40 minutes ago

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (Reuters) - A call from Osama bin Laden for holy war against Pakistan's president and army found resonance on Friday among some in Pakistan's conservative northwest but others rejected the cry for jihad as interference.
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In a Web audio tape issued on Thursday, a speaker purported to be bin Laden vowed to retaliate against "infidel" President Pervez Musharraf, his government and army for an assault on a radical mosque in the capital in July.

A militant cleric leading a Taliban-style movement and about 100 of his followers were killed when commandos stormed the Red Mosque compound to clear out gunmen.

Al Qaeda has in the past called for the assassination of Musharraf whose war-on-terror alliance with the United States is deeply unpopular in Pakistan, even among the vast majority who abhor militant violence.

"It's now obligatory on Pakistanis to wage jihad against Musharraf because he's pitting Muslims against Muslims for the sake of America," said Iqbal Hussain, a car washer in the northwestern city of Peshawar.

Suicide attacks and abductions of members of the security forces have surged since the Red Mosque assault and the collapse of a 10-month peace pact in the North Waziristan area on the Afghan border.

"What's going on in Waziristan and the frequent suicide attacks are the result of Musharraf's policies. He doesn't want to give up power," Hussain said.

Abdullah Khan, a shopkeeper in the town of Chaman on the Afghan border said Musharraf had turned Pakistan into a "slave of America".

"Osama has given the right message because Musharraf is working on America's agenda in Pakistan. He's killing people in the name of the fight against terrorism," Khan said.

"The people should stand up against General Musharraf and remove him to stop Mulsim bloodshed."

But such views were far from universal.

"General Musharraf's government is an internal issue of Pakistan. Osama bin Laden shouldn't interfere," said Abdul Ghani, 40, a Chaman car mechanic with a long black beard.

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Another Chaman resident, Hafiz Abdul Qayyum, said bin Laden didn't believe in democracy.

"General Musharraf's policies are against Islam and Muslims but Pakistan is a democratic country and Musharraf should be removed through democratic means," he said.

Peshawar shopkeeper Gulfaraz said he did not support bin Laden: "He just wants to create chaos which is un-Islamic."

In the eastern city of Lahore, Pakistan's cultural centre, bin Laden's call for jihad was widely condemned.

"Osama has no right to issue such statements," said Punjab University student Maryam Ali.

Government official Sohail Nasir said bin Laden had much blood on his hands: "He's responsible for killing tens of thousands of Muslims around the world and wants to get more Muslims killed through such statements."

Khurram Shehzad, a film company production assistant, said bin Laden shouldn't try to be a champion of Islam.

"He should mind his own business," Shehzad said.

A military spokesman dismissed bin Laden's call as irrelevant.

(Additional reporting by Saeed Ali Achakzai in Chaman and a Reuters reporter in Lahore)

 

[bozga]

Smokeaholic, my friend, that's an incredible thread!
I enjoyed reading it and couldn't believe it's possible that the giant pancake of black jelly hash costs 3 dollars! Wow, what a perspective shift!
Nice photos and text, all the best
Boz

 

[Yarkand]

Simply amazing thread bhai

1 day Insha Allah !

Great stuff and great stories man

 

[emmy75]

nice work and great pics. ive been to india many times but recently ive become fascinated with pakistan. it looks like a beautiful country and like indian has friendly people. i hope im lucky enough to go there and bring back some greaet seeds.

great thread

 

[ngakpa]

a lil taste of insurgency... anybody want some?

Insurgent Activities in Afghanistan and Pakistan 2007
http://www.drug-policy.org/modules/maps/images/maps/insurgency_activities

http://www.drug-policy.org/modules/maps


... this all speaks for itself I think

n.b. the above map was complied before Pakistan's Swat Valley came under Taliban control
Swat Valley Insurgency
http://counterterrorismblog.org/fas...s=1&search=Swat
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archi...s_talibanis.php


"Pashtunistan"
http://www.drug-policy.org/modules/...ps/pashtunistan

full report
Stumbling into Chaos: Afghanistan on the Brink Nov. 2007
http://www.drug-policy.org/modules/...an_on_the_brink

 

[maripurix]

very great thread.do you have ani citral seeds?i like indika landrace send me a PM.thank you

 

[ngakpa]

Dozens die as Pakistan suicide bomber targets mosque (Peshawar)

Dozens die as Pakistan suicide bomber targets mosque (Peshawar)

Randeep Ramesh, South Asia correspondent
Friday December 21, 2007

At least 35 people were killed today when a suicide attacker detonated a bomb at a mosque near the home of Pakistan's former interior minister during an Islamic holiday.

The bomber blew himself up as worshippers held prayers on the holy day of Eid al-Adha at the mosque inside Aftab Khan Sherpao's sprawling compound in Sherpao, a village 12 miles from the city of Peshawar, in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province.

The bomber had apparently sat in the front row of worshippers and begun to pray before exploding the device.

"We were saying prayers when this huge explosion occurred," Shaukat Ali, a 26-year-old survivor of the blast, told reporters. "It almost blew out our ear drums. Then it was it was like a scene from Doomsday."

Initial reports suggest that the death toll could increase in the coming hours. Local police chief Feroz Shah said: "According to my reports so far, 55 are dead but we are checking this figure, and over 100 are wounded."

Sherpao, seen as close to President Pervez Musharraf, survived the attack. "Yes, I'm fine," Sherpao told The Associated Press in a brief telephone interview. One of his sons was reportedly rushed to hospital.

The former minister is contesting next month's parliamentary elections. In office he took a strong anti-militant line, a conviction strengthened after a suicide attack killed 29 people at a public rally in his constituency, Charsadda, earlier this year.

Musharraf had justified imposing emergency rule in November by saying that that it was needed to stop a "wave of terrorism and militancy". It was lifted last weekend after the president said there had been a "considerable improvement" in the country.

A recent wave of attacks, which has seen seven suicide bombings in the past two weeks, appear to be a direct challenge to the government's authority with militants embarking on a bloody campaign to undermine claims that they had been contained. Analysts say almost 800 people have died this year from attacks this year.

 

[canaboid]

Coming from a persepctive of an Anglo-Saxon American, pakistan is a realtively safe country. I went there in 2003 and was a great country. People treated me well there. But Im not so sure if its these safe days...
In all the country has great hash and low prices. India also has great hash but the prices are a bti higher due to high tourism etc, In these days i woudl rather go to India and head up to Malana or maybe even Indian kashmir(its seem that kashmri is safer these days then alto of places around the world)

 

[canaboid]

Coming from a persepctive of an Anglo-Saxon American, pakistan is a realtively safe country. I went there in 2003 and was a great country. People treated me well there. But Im not so sure if its these safe days...
In all the country has great hash and low prices. India also has great hash but the prices are a bti higher due to high tourism etc, In these days i woudl rather go to India and head up to Malana or maybe even Indian kashmir(its seem that kashmri is safer these days then alto of places around the world)

 

[luciano28]

I read this whole thread the other day, but I couldnt post yet because my account hadnt been activated yet.

I just want to say this is probably the most interesting thread I have read on any marijuana forum. Thanks smokaholik and the others who have contributed to this great thread.

 

[Bulénath]

Yes, Peshawar is said to have cheap hash from the tribal areas like the Orakazi Agency and tribal places alike that are "off limit" to tourists.

Peshawar is far from here at Gilgit, but a dealer here
in town sold me some so-called "Twisted Gharda" from Waziristan, or the surrournding regions, calling it "Pesahwar Gharda".

This first deal of hash was super soft, like first rub cream. Exactly like pure malana charas, but costing only 1,000rs ($12.50 excactly), for about 40-50 grams. That breaks down into about $0.25 to $0.30 cents a gram) So it was an OKAY first deal in Pakistan, I think....

The second deal in Gilgit, from the same dealer, sold me the same soft cream charas at 40 grams for 1,700rs, or $22.00usd ($0.50 per gram!)
I was notvery happy with this second deal at all, but then again, I did not get to met the dealer yet, and therefor could not bargin with the "middle man".

(First two deals I went through my Hotel Manager who is very Islamic, no drinking, honest, but regardless he over charged me big time!)

The third and final deal in Gilgit took place three days ago. It was from the same dealer, whom I finally met for the first time in person, and finally did the deal alone!

He had two types of hash, both from "Peshawar". Both are made and imported from the infamous "restricterd tribal areas".
The first hash was the same as the first two.... Sticky, soft, and creamy with a good smooth high.

BUT, the third stuff offered looked more raw, smelt nice, felt crumbly, and appeared to be the famous "twisted gharda" seen on ICMag threads.

This third hash is brown on the outside, light on the inside, sweet, and crumbes with normal heat (no flame needed). It is not extremely sticky like the first two charas, but it needs tobbacco to burn, unlike pure sifted hash, which I am DESPERATE to find.

The third deal cost me a grand total (after much barganing) for 3,300rs, or $42.50usd, for exactly 100 grams. He took us to a bakery and weighed it on an old scale as a dealer should weight his product infront of the buyer!

So the grand total is 6,000 Pak rupees (OR $75USD) for a total of 180-200grams.
Basically I paid $0.30 tp $0.35 per gram for what the locals call "mid quality" Hashish, but it beats any Parvati hash so far!

On the contrary, this is Gilglit: The largest, most touristic transit town in the Northern Areas. Also, it is July, known better as dry season. So Perhpas, if you add up these many situations, the three deals were OKAY, even for a man on a budget.

BUT, I am stilll on a hash-venture into the Hindu Kush. All to look for and document the BEST hash and ganja strains.

Regardless of it all, I am looking for the better stuff like posted here on ICMag's "Pakistan" and "world wide hash" threads:
The EXACT same smoke you and a few brave travelers paid a mere $0.10-$0.15 per gram for, or 100 grams per 1,000 rupees!

Perhaps in Yarkhun gol, Matsuj, Sor Laspur, Turikho, Mulkho & Tirich valleys, and the Nuristani areas of Kalash valleys will provide me with such quality and inexpensive Hashish as many spoke of!


Pictures will be posted as soon as I find a computer with an old memory!!

 

[buddymate]

Bulenath,your in Gilgit?Jump on a bus over to Skardu,incredible place,also when you were in Peshawar did you visit Darra adam khel,the old hash and gun town in NWFP?If I remember correctly the cheapest place to buy hash in 'Pindi was Rajah Bazar.

 

[Bulénath]

Yeah I've been stuck here on a severe couch lock for 25 days. Moving on very soon to the North (Hunza region), and plan to trek to Matsuj, stoping at villages along the way. Very remote villages with no paved roads and kilometers from any civilization. All to look for the best hash.

Skardu? Skardu is my Pakistan town #2 out of three visited so far!
Yeah it is great out there, but I saw NO ganja plants at all. Asked some cool guy for some hash, he gave me what seemed like mid-grade Parvati charas, and the high was okay. So the deal was declined in Skardu. The mountains there are simply amazing! Nothing else like them, blows away Nepal's Annapurna treks, and I want to return with a motor bike!
But due to food poisoning from Mull Berries, I spent my four nights there without any further trekking, other than the single trek along the white-sand, ancient Indus river bed that leads to a hidden Organic Village that lie around the old fort's ruins atop the large stone hill.


No I haven't been to Peshawar for a few reasons. One, it is July and fucking HOT.
Two, the situation there is sketchy, with a few suicide blasts within the last few weeks. Coupled with the fact that my "Illegal" country America (I am from Hawai'i) is bombing the Orakzai, Waziristan and other tribal regions just miles from Peshawar.

But the dealer told me that this stuff is from Peshawar's tribal areas.



Daram Adam Khel is outa the picture until I HOPEFULLY (InshaAllah) get a second visa extension from September 29 to December 29. Then, only then, will the weather be pleasant enough.

VISAS
As expected the policy for visa extensions change from day to day, traveler to traveler, official to official, country to country, and so forth. Let it be known Pakistan initially gave me a SINGLE month visa for $120.
So I waited, hoped, chilled and prayed that in Gilgit, they will extend my American visa for the first time.
The Official Website of Pakistan says "Only 30 day visa extensions are possible for Americans, but 45 days with a sponsor or letter of recommendation, all for another $120 PER MONTH, or extension!

On the other hand, other Americans, along with other tourists from Brazil, japan, and other places got free extensions for 1-2 months! Everyone got a month for free, but the Brazillian guy played his cards right. His Visa offical at the time demanded money for an extension and would not extend for more than 30 days. The situation became a little tense, but the very next day, the same Visa Officer gave my Brazillian friend 60 days for FREE!
However, what ever the reason, my honest, cool as fuck hotel manager drove to the Visa office with me, wrote an official letter, and got me a 90 day extension, in which the official working at the time said "Come back in 90 days, and we will give you another 90 days. Even six months to a year can be possible".
Maybe it had much to do with giving the Visa official a 2,000Rs or $25.00 tip or "Backsheesh" as they sometimes call it. Maybe it had to do with wearing a nice Shalwar Kameze and a large happy smile. Most likely it had to do with the Hotel Manager promising to take responsibility of my entire Pakistan duration, as written in his official letter.
Still, what luck, what grace from Allah, and what a great time this has turned out to be! May Allah lead us to pictures, studying, and analyzing the best smoke in Pakistan. Allaho Akbal! (God is great).



Wow man! Gillgit, a high altitude oven, in the mountains for fucks sake, is so hot and the the mid day sun is so intense, that T-Shirts dry within two hours. It is nearly impossible to walk around during mid day. Things were different, cooler and more pleasant just a single month ago.

Time to move north very soon, and hopefully buy different types of hash, Gharda, Ganja during harvest, and other cheap goodies like Haffim (opium) which helps with chronic pain and stomach illnesses, Diarrhea and over all sickness. It only cost me about 30-60 cents per gram, but I honestly think it should cost 10 cents a gram or less. Some naive travelers pay up to $5 per gram, HAH!


But as always, Haffim can be dangerous, and should be used only for medicinal purposes. The fact I speak of Haffim is the fact that I don't care for chemical based pain relief, which ties into health, politics, and the evil FDA. Regardless, the information is for reading purpose only, and not intended for viewers.

On that same note, I just smoked with three fully uniformed police officers, in a dark alley at midnight! So many police smoke here, it is fucking insane! Even the chief of Gilgit police sat and smoked a fat one with me! Crazy times, great life.


They say that 75% of Gilgit locals smoke, and it seems to be an accurate statistic.


ALCOHOL

Alcohol is available in Gilgit even though the Lonely Planet says it's non existent! The down-low black market booze is relatively safe, as most Gilgit locals like to partake in a drink. There is local wine made from Mal Berries, Grapes, or Apricots that cost 700rs (about $8.75) for 1.5 litters and contains 20-30% alcohol.

There is also lots of imported Alcohol from China that is most common. It comes in a special factory sealed package and cost 500rs for 510ml, or about $6.25 for 18 solid shots of what tastes like Vodka. (one ounce per shot is standard at most American pubs). This stuff is 45% alcohol, so it is a solid deal for Pakistan's Illegal substances, yet much more costly to get drunk compared to India or Nepal.

There is also Brandy and Chineese beer that I have heard about from the locals, but have yet to find. The common stuff is the local stuff, naturally.


I am having tourble finding a camera to take my memory card so I can transfer pictures to this computer, and show ya'll the goodies gifted by Allah!


Aloha, respect and love,
Bulenath

 

[buddah]

nice thread

 

[buddymate]

Bulenath,I saw loads of Plants in Skardu,did you get yourself up to Satpara?I got a huge bag of seeds back in 2002 the last time I visited from a kid who was trout fishing,your right,Skardu blows annapurna out of the water,I remember the road too and from Skardu back in the early 1990's,scary as f*ck.If your up in Hunza next month,august is Apricot season if I remember correctly,try and get yourself up into Hoppar valley,right at the top the glacier is amazing.

 

[Bulénath]

Aloha

Aloha

Apricot season is almost over here in Hunza. All the best trees are bare of fruit. Will post picutres as soon as addequate computer hardware is found, that or a traveler with a camera that has the camera conection cable!

Oh and I bought some so called Gharda from the same man. We went to a different bakery with a typical ballance scale, and he weighted me 150 more grams of some different stuff.

He said, just "said", that this one is Gharda , but it looks like charas to me. Sticky and black on the outside, but the surface scrapes and lightly peeles back into a light brown color. But the direct inside is not very colorful as the scrapped surface when the whole brick is cut in half.
"He" also claimed that this one is from Minigora in SWAT valley, where the Taliban stronghold is. Hopefully this smoke is as good as the first two Chara looking ones I got. Nothing beats the brown/gold Gardah I got a 100 grams of during my third deal in Gilgit (mentioned previously).




Wow, 250 grams of hash and I still want more!

 

[buddymate]

July is it?I just remember going up through Hunza and everyone giving me apricots,probably the best apricots I ever had in my life,they also gave me dried ones,add a little hot water early in the morning before trecking for a great drink,I miss pakistan,hope it all settles down one day so I can take my kids there and show them a few places.

 

[azad]

I returned from kashmir in july this yr.I tried to fly to chiral but airport was closed.I just toked on the local black..im planing to visit again in 2010 and travel to mardan and chitral god willing..peace...azad

bluenath try aquiring some shilajit (herbal health food)