As long as you have been good about runoff it shouldn't be a problem. I belive it's a problem if you have salt build up and then you add dripclean it may release all the salts at one time burning the plants.
A few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW
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As long as you have been good about runoff it shouldn't be a problem. I belive it's a problem if you have salt build up and then you add dripclean it may release all the salts at one time burning the plants.
Bongstar420
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Can we please see the differences expressed as g/w/month, g/gallon media, average potency (lab analysis from the same lab). Also, how is continuous, low PPM feed so spectacular as a uncommon thing? The "difference" must be shown with the same cut, same nute practice, and same environmental conditions.....otherwise, its really subjective.
Hey, if it's a great concern , show us.
It is very subjective, there are many way to skin a cat it screams every time... You can feed higher but different rates n considerably more run off, I've ran both and got same results, the lower ppm feed is what I stick to, much more manageable, efficient, and overall it was just better, no reason to worry about ppm and ph fluctuations caused by altering mixes weekly.. I'm a firm believer in doing as little as possible for the best results...
Never a truer word spoken Stoney.....less is more....and Bongstar....
It was never about more gpw with me , but rather the best quality and once dialed after several runs , yields took care of themselves and side by sides were never needed after learning the plants needs and exploiting em for as much yield with quality first as possible...
I started fast hydro setups 25 yrs ago by shoving almost 2000 ppms up my plants ass for days at a time then flush for a day or so to bring shit back into ph and ppm parameters , then start over and shove shit up their ass again.......continuously all the way til the last 7 days and then used R/o water only to allow the plants to cannibalize themselves till Harvey while dwindling down ppms to the tapwater range in the 100`s....but....
I learned from a damn dope growin genius nicked Heath Robinson about using 6-750 ppms continuously across the board start to finish and the shit practically grew itself .....now....back to dripclean....
NEVER employ it "during" a grow cycle , and it "will" release all stored juice left in the rootzone as stated above but it won`t burn the plants up , it goes 1 step further and strips the coco of ALL nutrients @ 1 ml per gal and fucks the CEC up and causes all manners of deficiencies and lockouts that shut the plants down and throw em into recovery mode and that adds time to Harvey and is no Bueno....and hey....
I know folks that run all but 0 runoff with lower ppms/ec period and no dripclean with dialed results , but they`re experienced with yrs of intermediate skills and frankly for the cost of dripclean @ only 1 ml per gal , why NOT use the shit start to finish as complete insurance ....Oh....
I forgot to say that I used ball valves at each level to help control pressure to all the plantsites PF , and with 80 plants , You`ll most likely need em....also.....
A bypass above solution level in the rez with a ball valve above a "tee" to help control pressure from the oversized pump that simply blows excess juice back down into the rez and then up to all 4 levels while using the other valves at each level to dial solution to each plantsite........anyways....
Good luck and ....
Peace.....DHF.....
.....Never a truer word spoken Stoney.....less is more....and Bongstar....
It was never about more gpw with me , but rather the best quality and once dialed after several runs , yields took care of themselves and side by sides were never needed after learning the plants needs and exploiting em for as much yield with quality first as possible...
I started fast hydro setups 25 yrs ago by shoving almost 2000 ppms up my plants ass for days at a time then flush for a day or so to bring shit back into ph and ppm parameters , then start over and shove shit up their ass again.......continuously all the way til the last 7 days and then used R/o water only to allow the plants to cannibalize themselves till Harvey while dwindling down ppms to the tapwater range in the 100`s....but....
I learned from a damn dope growin genius nicked Heath Robinson about using 6-750 ppms continuously across the board start to finish and the shit practically grew itself .....now....back to dripclean....
NEVER employ it "during" a grow cycle , and it "will" release all stored juice left in the rootzone as stated above but it won`t burn the plants up , it goes 1 step further and strips the coco of ALL nutrients @ 1 ml per gal and fucks the CEC up and causes all manners of deficiencies and lockouts that shut the plants down and throw em into recovery mode and that adds time to Harvey and is no Bueno....and hey....
I know folks that run all but 0 runoff with lower ppms/ec period and no dripclean with dialed results , but they`re experienced with yrs of intermediate skills and frankly for the cost of dripclean @ only 1 ml per gal , why NOT use the shit start to finish as complete insurance ....Oh....
I forgot to say that I used ball valves at each level to help control pressure to all the plantsites PF , and with 80 plants , You`ll most likely need em....also.....
A bypass above solution level in the rez with a ball valve above a "tee" to help control pressure from the oversized pump that simply blows excess juice back down into the rez and then up to all 4 levels while using the other valves at each level to dial solution to each plantsite........anyways....
Good luck and ....
Peace.....DHF.....
Hum, I have no clue how to pull that off , mabey I should just run hempys. I am looking to cut out the daily watering so I can still have a life.
K waxy I will give it a go, 80 buckets is going to cost a small fortune, and o have a 100 #2 smarties. I will probably be picking your brain waxy. I am kicking myself for doing a high plant count stadium, instead of a scrogg or a standard flat garden.
Yeah I don't have room in the reservoir for 4 pumps, also Don't have the electric capacity either.
PF bro......I apologize greatly for makin this shit sound complicated......but....
It is....specific....Once you do it , you`ll look back and say that shit was easy.....and hey....Octabubblers rock....back when I ran my flip rooms Octabubblers didn't exist and /or were inferior facsimile sprinkler system bullshit that`s built to break...and lastly....
Overkill `s underrated on equipment....remember that with pumps , fans , waterproofing feedlines and other vital tools that control environment and production in your grow area , and once in place and dialed ......
Guaranteed yields plus quality will increase from each plant getting exactly the same juice as needed start to finish.....anyways......
Have a great weekend guys.....and....
Peace....DHF.........
It is....specific....Once you do it , you`ll look back and say that shit was easy.....and hey....Octabubblers rock....back when I ran my flip rooms Octabubblers didn't exist and /or were inferior facsimile sprinkler system bullshit that`s built to break...and lastly....
Overkill `s underrated on equipment....remember that with pumps , fans , waterproofing feedlines and other vital tools that control environment and production in your grow area , and once in place and dialed ......
Guaranteed yields plus quality will increase from each plant getting exactly the same juice as needed start to finish.....anyways......
Have a great weekend guys.....and....
Peace....DHF....
.....I have a 1/5 horse pump already hopefully that will work, probably go with th6 gal per hour octobubbler. I am going to use a single run of 2 in pvc. I think this will be better than tubing for each level.
Do I still need to cut my 1/4 in line coming off the octo to be the same length?
Thanks for the encouragement waxy, and DHF. That's why I love this forum.
PF bro......I apologize greatly for makin this shit sound complicated......but....
It is....specific....Once you do it , you`ll look back and say that shit was easy.....and hey....Octabubblers rock....back when I ran my flip rooms Octabubblers didn't exist and /or were inferior facsimile sprinkler system bullshit that`s built to break...and lastly....
Overkill `s underrated on equipment....remember that with pumps , fans , waterproofing feedlines and other vital tools that control environment and production in your grow area , and once in place and dialed ......
Guaranteed yields plus quality will increase from each plant getting exactly the same juice as needed start to finish.....anyways......
Have a great weekend guys.....and....
Peace....DHF....
No need to apologize, I am just not sure what I need to make it work. I will probably be picking your brain also. It's reassuring to know a pro like you is willing to help the little guys. I won't have any plants in the room untill early October so I have time to tinker, and get it perfect. Trying to pick up a few things at a time. The wife doesn't need to know how much it's going to cost, lol. If I get 3 more ounces it will pay for itself. Plus I will have more time to spend with the kids and the wife. We have a tradition of going to the mountain's for new years, It's always a pain trying to find someone to water. Last year the kid locked his keys in the shed, luckily I kept a key to the shed on my key ring.
I am hoping I can get 2 pounds a light, last crop was 7.5, handwatered and I was working a lot, missed quite a few waterings and had some salt build up. That shouldn't be a problem this time. I am hoping my 60 gallon reservoir will last at least 3 days.
With 50 watts per sq ft and dialed environment , 2 lbs per light is baby shit compared to what`s available with dialed strains monocropped and increased plant numbers that have automated feed as needed......but.....
60 gals DTW for 80 plants in a 3 day cycle is a recipe for disaster bro.....First off.....If you give each plant ONLY a qt of juice "once" a day , that`s 60 gals over a 3 day period.....trust me.....
80 qts = 20 gals per day x 3 days= 60 gals.....with only a qt of juice per plant per day.....so....
Dialed and suckin juice as needed , they `ll use as much as you`ll give em during veg and stretch once flipped 12/12 , and once they`re in full bloomage , if dialed , their liquid consumption doubles for swellage during lights off till end of cycle........anyways.....
We`ll get you through this bro , you`re just gonna haveta adapt to what it takes to do said stadium as needed to get as close to 12 lbs with 4 K as possible with dialed environment , feed setup and proper watts per sq ft.....
My angled rack rooms did well over 98 ozs with 64 plants using 3-600`s stacked running clone only Chem D for many yrs.....You can do it too with time and patience........regardless....
Good luck ....DHF.....
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Seriously..... DHF knows what's going on..... Yall listen and take notes..... He won't steer ya wrong.... If you can follow his advise you will be GOLDEN.
Packer dont be difficult Babe.....
Lol, not being difficult just try ing to get this figured out. Nothing is set in stone.
With 50 watts per sq ft and dialed environment , 2 lbs per light is baby shit compared to what`s available with dialed strains monocropped and increased plant numbers that have automated feed as needed......but.....
60 gals DTW for 80 plants in a 3 day cycle is a recipe for disaster bro.....First off.....If you give each plant ONLY a qt of juice "once" a day , that`s 60 gals over a 3 day period.....trust me.....
80 qts = 20 gals per day x 3 days= 60 gals.....with only a qt of juice per plant per day.....so....
Dialed and suckin juice as needed , they `ll use as much as you`ll give em during veg and stretch once flipped 12/12 , and once they`re in full bloomage , if dialed , their liquid consumption doubles for swellage during lights off till end of cycle........anyways.....
We`ll get you through this bro , you`re just gonna haveta adapt to what it takes to do said stadium as needed to get as close to 12 lbs with 4 K as possible with dialed environment , feed setup and proper watts per sq ft.....
My angled rack rooms did well over 98 ozs with 64 plants using 3-600`s stacked running clone only Chem D for many yrs.....You can do it too with time and patience........regardless....
Good luck ....DHF.....
Shit 12 lbs, is a fucking huge pull from 4k. I tried mono crops for the first time. I need some variety, lol.doing5 strains most likely. All about 10 weekers. I can add a second reservoir. First run was 7.5 pounds and I was pleased with that.
oti$
Active member
My favorite pump for the big jobs is a Wayne 1hp sprinkler pump. You can find them on Amazon for $120-$150.one of those will give you plenty if pressure for your stadium. I'd run the # 2 smarties and irrigte 3-6x's lights on... No need to buy new pots,I think those would be perfect size for your set up.
Also have any of you ran dosatrons or minidos setups to eliminate the Rez? Been wanting to do it so bad, and now I need to cause I'm running into PF's problem. Rez size and filling it up constantly.
Imagine if you have no rez...life would be nice
That would be awesome , I saw a thread about dosatrons somewhere here.
I use a 355 gph pump to feed 48 plants in 2 gal pots. Feeding every hour and 30 minutes for a minute and 15 seconds. They drink about 35 gallons with about 3 to 5 gallons run off in a 12 hour cycle . I only have a 50 gallon reservoir. So every day I look at the level notches and determine how much water to top off then add my nutrients. Then every 5 days I take the rez out and clean everything.. been working fine.
