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Relik
Hi V-man and Vash! Those nugshots are amazing, I almost bit my screen lol.
Take care everyone, keep it green (and frosty)!
Take care everyone, keep it green (and frosty)!
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vonforne
Vash said:
Yes Vash it is. I start to taper off around the second week with the veg nutes and ease into the mid bloom nutes where I'm at now. I will feed P dominant tea the next two times and then just molasses and water with K-mag. The last two will be plain water. I will let the plant eat itself dry of nutrients.
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jolene-do you know what specific type of comfrey you use? I have some 'regular' comfrey (Symphytum officinale L.) in my garden I've been using lately in bloom teas, but have heard what I really want is 'russian comfrey' (Symphytum x uplandicum). I've called every nursery in my area and then some, and just can't get anywhere. Nobody has even really heard of it. Any ideas on where to look locally for russian comfrey?
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vonforne
fisher15 - I am using bocking 14 (I think it is a sterile strain - you really don't want this thing self seeding...) - though I imagine that pretty much any commercial comfrey would be fine, though the more vigorous the better.
Can't really advise on getting some as I live in England - I got some off ebay if that is any help.
Can't really advise on getting some as I live in England - I got some off ebay if that is any help.
...though if you do live in England you can get some here
http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=59_154
'Ave it!
http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=59_154
'Ave it!
poorwhitefarmer
Member
great thread vonforne!
i was wondering about saliva as a enzyme? not early morning saliva either!lol
i have been very interested in wats in the -zyme products. i really am impressed with the hygrozyme product and too poor to afford 35 a bottle. also, i came up with a neat idea. i used to work/hangout in a petstore and there was this product that was used to humidify frog/amphibian enclosures. i ended up using it to grow shrooms! nehoo, i was reading up on fungal inoculation of compost piles and the need to turn them regularly. in my experience fungus will stall if tampered with so i figured on using this pet humidifier. it consists of a tall container bout 1/2 gal sized. drill 2 airtube hole in the lid. thread one airtube down to the bottom, the other end connected to a aquarium pump. the other hole you thread tubing just inside the lid and run it into the center of your compost pile/tub. fill the container with water and mayb hydrogen peroxide(for more o2) leaving a good pocket of air, kick on the air pump and it should send clean oxygenated moist air into the heart of your pile! in my theory this should help beneficial funus like go crazy. it sure worked for my cubensis! wut do you think of this?
also, have yall ever thought to add willow into your teas or is it too antiseptic?
much respect,
pwf
i was wondering about saliva as a enzyme? not early morning saliva either!lol
i have been very interested in wats in the -zyme products. i really am impressed with the hygrozyme product and too poor to afford 35 a bottle. also, i came up with a neat idea. i used to work/hangout in a petstore and there was this product that was used to humidify frog/amphibian enclosures. i ended up using it to grow shrooms! nehoo, i was reading up on fungal inoculation of compost piles and the need to turn them regularly. in my experience fungus will stall if tampered with so i figured on using this pet humidifier. it consists of a tall container bout 1/2 gal sized. drill 2 airtube hole in the lid. thread one airtube down to the bottom, the other end connected to a aquarium pump. the other hole you thread tubing just inside the lid and run it into the center of your compost pile/tub. fill the container with water and mayb hydrogen peroxide(for more o2) leaving a good pocket of air, kick on the air pump and it should send clean oxygenated moist air into the heart of your pile! in my theory this should help beneficial funus like go crazy. it sure worked for my cubensis! wut do you think of this?
also, have yall ever thought to add willow into your teas or is it too antiseptic?
much respect,
pwf
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Guest
With this tea feeding routine - is it the complete nutrition program or just extra love combined with regular feeding (ex. Earth Juice Line) ?
Scay Beez
Active member
If anyone is going to experiment with soy sauce (I hate endorsing brands) you must use Bragg's Liquid Aminos or some other fermented soy bean/meal mixture with low sodium. Most soy sauce has very high sodium. Bragg's has a proprietary fermentation process that makes their soy sauce taste salty but has very low sodium. Free amino acids. Great health food as well.
Vonforne: Much more clear instructions, well done. Like the ideas of fermented fruit. There is a product I use called Banana Manna and it I think it is just fermented extracts of "bananas, kiwi, payapa, and other tropical fruits". Their other product is Coco-Cat which has coconut water (not sure if fermented coconut milk,coconut water, or coconut vinegar) and fermented ginger. These could be emulated very easy.
ThaiPhoon: I use ridiculously low amounts of compost tea on my pure sativas. About 1:6 - 1:10 ratio (AACT/H20) worm castings/molasses/seaweed depending on what they can take. Avoid using bacteria innoculants with nitrogen fixing bacteria because it will fix nitrogen too fast for sensitive sativas.
poorwhitefarmer: These types of fungus are a lot easier to grow and all you need is an fungi source (compost/fungus products) and a food source (soy sauce, corn syrup). Take a keg cup or any type of container and put the compost in it, add food source, keep it wet, covered with plastic, and in a dark place. In about 7-10 days if I remember correctly it should be visible. This can be put in the compost tea bag to increase the fungi counts in your teas.
- sbz
Vonforne: Much more clear instructions, well done. Like the ideas of fermented fruit. There is a product I use called Banana Manna and it I think it is just fermented extracts of "bananas, kiwi, payapa, and other tropical fruits". Their other product is Coco-Cat which has coconut water (not sure if fermented coconut milk,coconut water, or coconut vinegar) and fermented ginger. These could be emulated very easy.
ThaiPhoon: I use ridiculously low amounts of compost tea on my pure sativas. About 1:6 - 1:10 ratio (AACT/H20) worm castings/molasses/seaweed depending on what they can take. Avoid using bacteria innoculants with nitrogen fixing bacteria because it will fix nitrogen too fast for sensitive sativas.
poorwhitefarmer: These types of fungus are a lot easier to grow and all you need is an fungi source (compost/fungus products) and a food source (soy sauce, corn syrup). Take a keg cup or any type of container and put the compost in it, add food source, keep it wet, covered with plastic, and in a dark place. In about 7-10 days if I remember correctly it should be visible. This can be put in the compost tea bag to increase the fungi counts in your teas.
- sbz
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vonforne
I see a lot of questions about teas so I will bump this up. Maybe some one will find it useful.
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nice job Vman & Suby,,
finally,, I got off my ass and purchased that book we often drooled over Von - "The Compost Tea Brewing Manual" (5th edition) by Dr. E. Ingham.
Fantastic read, only problem is the recipes are for commercial tea machines used in farming i.e. 50 gal and over,,,,, easy fixed,,, divide the ingredients by 10, to bring it down to what we normally brew (5 gal or 20 litres) every thing should be sweet. I'm so glad that the simple task of brewing a tea has slowly caught on.
The best part is that compost teas have been recognized as more nutritional and biologically active than anything purchased/manufactured off the shelf. Quite often the only way to convince people of the merits in tea making is to pull rabbits from a hat,,,, the only majik I know.
100% certified organic, so here goes........
These pics from Oct + 4th & 6th Nov - no tricks here - outdoor buds grown right thru winter @ 44 deg sth ,,, I put it down to the compost tea.
happy tea-making folks
smurf
finally,, I got off my ass and purchased that book we often drooled over Von - "The Compost Tea Brewing Manual" (5th edition) by Dr. E. Ingham.
Fantastic read, only problem is the recipes are for commercial tea machines used in farming i.e. 50 gal and over,,,,, easy fixed,,, divide the ingredients by 10, to bring it down to what we normally brew (5 gal or 20 litres) every thing should be sweet. I'm so glad that the simple task of brewing a tea has slowly caught on.
The best part is that compost teas have been recognized as more nutritional and biologically active than anything purchased/manufactured off the shelf. Quite often the only way to convince people of the merits in tea making is to pull rabbits from a hat,,,, the only majik I know.
100% certified organic, so here goes........
These pics from Oct + 4th & 6th Nov - no tricks here - outdoor buds grown right thru winter @ 44 deg sth ,,, I put it down to the compost tea.
happy tea-making folks
smurf
Holly Shit Smurfster those look amazing 
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Can you give us an example of a flowering mix from your book, I`m curiouswhat she recommend, I have been reading alot of her articles so I`m wanting to pick up a few books, but give me the Smurf Cliffnotes on a few items.
I can`t believe I never noticed there was no formal thread on tea making and honestly my friend Vman does ALOT of experimentation and is an Ingham fan as well.
I have been seeing yucca extract come up alot as a surfactant, anyone trying to dissolve neem or kelp in any form in water knows they are hard to dissolve and personnally I don`t like using dish soap so Yucca is a great surfactant that apparently encourages fungal growth.
Rok it out in your buckets peeps
Suby
!Can you give us an example of a flowering mix from your book, I`m curiouswhat she recommend, I have been reading alot of her articles so I`m wanting to pick up a few books, but give me the Smurf Cliffnotes on a few items.
I can`t believe I never noticed there was no formal thread on tea making and honestly my friend Vman does ALOT of experimentation and is an Ingham fan as well.
I have been seeing yucca extract come up alot as a surfactant, anyone trying to dissolve neem or kelp in any form in water knows they are hard to dissolve and personnally I don`t like using dish soap so Yucca is a great surfactant that apparently encourages fungal growth.
Rok it out in your buckets peeps
Suby
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Relik
Suby said:Holly Shit Smurfster those look amazing
I second that! Impressive plants, I almost bit my screen! Who can deny the power of compost teas now? 
Seems like you'll be smoking the dank soon (if you aren't already), keep it rocking Smurf!Peace
Scay Beez
Active member
Another thing I've been doing with my teas the past year which I feel makes a huge difference is putting an airline in the sock so the compost inside the sock moves around better. It also keeps the biofilm level very low on the sock (more microbes getting into the tea).
SMURF-> GO! GO! GO! Hell yeah man! Beautiful foam! Next read the 2nd field guide and Teaming With Microbes, the lost books of the religion of compost tea..hahaha.. J/K
Suby -> I have been seeing yucca extract come up alot as a surfactant, anyone trying to dissolve neem or kelp in any form in water knows they are hard to dissolve and personnally I don`t like using dish soap so Yucca is a great surfactant that apparently encourages fungal growth.
You can use a castile (vegetable oil) or coconut oil based soap with no problem (Dr. Bronner's works great! or Coco-wet is good and inexpensive). You will never want to be without yucca again once you start using it. The powdered yucca can be a little hard to mix as well. You can put it in a container with a lid and shake vigorously and then mix it into the pitcher. I prefer the liquid but shipping is more expensive. Brix level determines how good the source is and lots of products on the market have preservatives which are a BIG NO NO in compost tea brewing. It was used as a foaming agent in rootbeer, so don't brew it in with your compost tea if you can use your imagination. I'll pm you with info on neem.. too much crap neem on the market.
- sbz
SMURF-> GO! GO! GO! Hell yeah man! Beautiful foam! Next read the 2nd field guide and Teaming With Microbes, the lost books of the religion of compost tea..hahaha.. J/K
Suby -> I have been seeing yucca extract come up alot as a surfactant, anyone trying to dissolve neem or kelp in any form in water knows they are hard to dissolve and personnally I don`t like using dish soap so Yucca is a great surfactant that apparently encourages fungal growth.
You can use a castile (vegetable oil) or coconut oil based soap with no problem (Dr. Bronner's works great! or Coco-wet is good and inexpensive). You will never want to be without yucca again once you start using it. The powdered yucca can be a little hard to mix as well. You can put it in a container with a lid and shake vigorously and then mix it into the pitcher. I prefer the liquid but shipping is more expensive. Brix level determines how good the source is and lots of products on the market have preservatives which are a BIG NO NO in compost tea brewing. It was used as a foaming agent in rootbeer, so don't brew it in with your compost tea if you can use your imagination. I'll pm you with info on neem.. too much crap neem on the market.
- sbz
