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CoCoSativas

CoCoSativas

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Hammerhead said:
The info you provided I'm sure is on point. If its a cut I'm really interested in I will do as much as possible before I do anything rash. Some cuts are not so easy to tell if fake. If the only thing that's off is the way she looks can be attributed to they way she way grown.

I would try a TC and see if that brings her vigor back.. But we are getting way off topic. So back to Chem 91
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Whats a TC?

I was given the info by a guy who has had the cut for like 20 years+ so i hope the info he provided is spot on im merely passing it along my experience with underdog is limited to my bx seedlings at this time though will have the underdog clone only soon enough to share pics.

You are right HH back on topic
 
CoCoSativas

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ThaDocta said:
According to Weasel, Underdog/Headband has been extinct since the 90's since he never gave anyone cuts. It was sour diesel that came from it.
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You might want to double check your info.... its not really helpful to make a statement thats not accurate.
Ask jj he knows who i know and knows he has it. :biggrin: the cut is up here in canada.

Thats really all I have to offer, ask for yourself... someones still got it.
 
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BAKED_BEANZ

CoCoSativas said:
You might want to double check your info.... its not really helpful to make a statement thats not accurate.
Ask jj he knows who i know and knows he has it. :biggrin: the cut is up here in canada.

Thats really all I have to offer, ask for yourself... someones still got it.
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i want him IQ tested ......
 
Elmer Bud

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CoCoSativas said:
Outside of the holder i know, jj nyc and weasel you arent likely to find any pics. Well thats not 100% true i have a shitload of underdog pics.

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Thats the real deal. Shes still alive but in rough shape.


I dont mean to be a asshole but if dans cut is as he describes its not the real undersog cut. Real or not all that matters is he likes it but if its a fast vegger its a fact its not underdog. Even in the best shape it was a slow vegger, my bx seeds are SLOW AS FUCK and the slowest of 80 young plants to veg.

I hate to be the guy who says its not real but i have a overwhelming amount of info on the real underdog as im in contact with a holder whos had it for nearly as long as its been going if i correctly understand

Hes not going to be able to find anyone to actually verify if its real underdog. Jj and my bro would be able to tell you but they would tell you the same thing im saying. Ive read jjs post at **** (garbage farm) and the holder i know told me the same info. The underdog the real underdog has a host of issues. Unfortunately being able to verify the underdog the way you sugest wont likely pan out because most of what people have tried as undersog is fake.

Also its 100% eliminated there is 0% possibility dans is legit if it grows fast, and has no issues with lack of smell or potency. Most people dumped the cut my buddy who holds it might be the last guy with the real thing. Hes doing a bx project because the original cut is fucked up and dosent do it anymore.

There may be several reasons the 91 is in better shape. Im told its a genetic abnormality something about chromosome shit. Its what causes the mutation in seeds from many of the original chems. The underdogs display that particular retardation fairly often i had 3 out of 14 survivors of the seed pop the hooked mutant leaves.

Anyway i hope those pics help. Theres so much fucking fake ass bullshit floating around comfusing people and while many fakes are near as good or as good as what they immitate the name of its not the same and for growers thats a hassle. We shouldnt have to go to rediculous lengths to get the right shit. Hopefully next time someone says yeah i got underdog, daywecker or original diesel theres some pics so you can tell them to stop wasting your fucking time... i hope these goodballs that pass fakes just find something else to do rather than fuck up the dope buisness with silliness

Ill have a real deal cut to run beside the bx seeds in no time. Ill drop more pics here once i have it. Im not expecting much from her i hear the smell is very deminished, low vigor and potency its like most 20 year old cuts weary and tired reef told me the pink kush master mother is 33 years old and tired too it happens to all.

One thought as to why many old cuts are rough but the 91 is ok, many may have been effected my pathogen early before mass passing.

Also while you say the 91 has plenty of everything, my buddy who has had it for 20 years has told me DEFINITELY is not the same as back then. Its still fantastic but he said its not as good. I suspect either its abnormal genetics or possible pure luck have shielded it from some of the perils of keepi g a cut of a annual flowering plant for a long time.

Oh hammer, yeah headband is supposed to be good actually many say as good as any chem and diesel and id guess likely a descendant but ive been told it was one of the leading fakes floating around the east coast and was ised to knock of all sorts of good shit until they realized why knock off if its as good?

The info i am providing is courtesy of the holder who gave me the bx seeds as well as a couple fill details, as mentioned jjs posts and theres a few other people who were very kind to fill in some of this for me as its pretty confusing. I live on the other side of north america and im a year older than the 91 so obviously i am not the originator of this info just passing it along.

The underdog is still out there. Just dont expect to see the real one around anywhere and if you do if its not old and tired its likely not real deal. Ill be happy to post pics. Theres more interest than i though and that makes it worth it for me. No ones asked to see a light dedicated to them yet but theres more than enough interest to post more pics.

If those pictures are not enough i can seek more. The rest of them have slices of my buddies property in them so i wont post that. Id love to see a pic of dans plant and see if it looks even close to the underdog but i suspect he might have headband or another more available knockoff that was passed as underdog by some unscrupulous asshole who put it on a path into his hands.

Fake or not i dont really care as long as dan likes smoking it thats what matters. Lame you cant make any real underdog s1 or shit with it but theres tons it the world. My buddy might release his work later until then though the real underdog is some kind of rare
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CoCoSativas

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Lol i didnt come be apart of a circus as these clone only arguments often turn into. If anyone wants to talk im around but i wont be hanging around here. I didnt accept to test these seeds so i could argue and deffend them. Im done deffemding seeds. Waste of time theres always some spastic sideshow shit that goes with it.

Lol @ firein.thesky im not confused about anything. A dude hooked me up with seeds and info. :laughing: whats the omg because i actually told ThaDocta to check his info? Im sorry but the info he has is not the info i have and the holder i know has told me explicitly jj knows who he is and can verify his cut is legit.

Anyway sorry i bothered to share ill leave you guys to it, whatever it is lol. I saw all sorts of chem stuff other than 91 in here i thought some might enjoy to check it out but obviously some rnjoy the side show more. Later guys :laughing:
 
shishkaboy

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Piney, citrus cleaner.
Looking pretty nice.

Edit: Its actually more freshener chemical than cleaner.
 
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Grøn

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Can anybody sum up some grow advise for the Chem D since i am going to try her out, she is vegging now and all i know is she has a nanner issue and is a strong feeder.

Any other special needs she like, how long does pepol take her ?
Also is long veg needed for good yeild ?
 
Scrappy-doo

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I never had a problem with nanners on the d. She likes to eat. Yields well always. The only issue if you consider it one is the leaf variegation which can be minimized with some extra calmag or some epsom salts. If you grow her into a bush you may need to support some branches because she can be a little floppy sometimes. 9 weeks maybe a few days more is all she needs. Excellent plant, nice score.
 
ThaDocta

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^^^It's pretty disgusting the amount of fake genetics, imposters, clone baiters, and attention whores that have to fuck up the genepool and authenticity for everyone. OhSo and his not so REAL SKUNK. ISP ripping off the good homie SIerraSkunks Chem4 bx3. Is there literally no one honest about their genetics today. WTF. I blame THC FARMER. When that site went up almost every member from that site I've ever met is a scammer and liar.
 
Hammerhead

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There's always 2 sides too every story. Unless you where there its just another person spreading rumors IMO..The same story keeps coming back year after year. OHSO has categorically denied having anything to do with Ripping off anyone. Who am to take a side. I wasn't there. If 2 people have a beef you think there gonna talk kind about ea other right lol..


I agree too much fake shit being passed around. Renaming cuts its Bullshit
 
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