Yes new phone. I like extreme mycos. I’ve used the WP and granules. I flush with brix weekly or so. Also, don’t run mycos WP through any irrigation system. I premix my brix before I add to the Rez as to not gunk it up.
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Yes new phone. I like extreme mycos. I’ve used the WP and granules. I flush with brix weekly or so. Also, don’t run mycos WP through any irrigation system. I premix my brix before I add to the Rez as to not gunk it up.
Looking great up in here. The LEDs are doing the damn thang!!
p0opstlnksal0t
Active member
At this stage can you describe the comparison of the flowers under those LEDs versus the HPS
So we’re at day 32 in this pic. The flowers look very similar to the rest of the room. I feel the buds are maybe a hair bigger and appear to be growing slightly more compact. It’s hard to say for sure honestly. I can tell you all the plants are being fed the same nutes and were trained as usual.
I do have experience with the spydr 2i’s made by fluence. I can tell you these growers choice fixtures rival them closely, potentially outperform them at a better price point. And no I don’t work for them lol.
Ibechillin
Masochist Educator
4.85 pounds per 1000 DE HPS in a 969 sq ft room with 42 lights is the highest Ive seen, LED potential even higher...
Veggia farmer
Well-known member
Hijacking a little here now... We dont have hormex where I live..
Anyone know what the active ingredients are? Maybe I can find a substitute here if I know the content?
Been dreaming about that root porn for awhile now.. Jesus.. I have aerocloners and I want my stuff like you, no doubt! LOL.
Overall, still looking good. Interessting to see how it will go further with the LEDs you got.
Much love, Veggia
Anyone know what the active ingredients are? Maybe I can find a substitute here if I know the content?
Been dreaming about that root porn for awhile now.. Jesus.. I have aerocloners and I want my stuff like you, no doubt! LOL.
Overall, still looking good. Interessting to see how it will go further with the LEDs you got.
Much love, Veggia
Biologist
Active member
Veggia, I bought this-
https://www.amazon.com/HiMedia-GRM575-25G-Naphthalene-Acetic-Extra/dp/B00DYOAIFG/
But I haven't had a chance to try it yet instead of Hormex. It should be the ingredient that makes Hormex work, as the other ingredient, Vitamin B1's usefulness is a myth in plants as far as I know. Hormex is 0.24% 1-naphthaleneacetic acid so you will have to dilute that a ton and 25g would probably last a liftime of growing. Maybe if I run out of Hormex again, I'll try it and see.
https://www.gardenmyths.com/vitamin-b1-for-plants/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
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Veggia farmer
Well-known member
Amazon gives me a sorry coment, but its 1-Naphthaleneacetic acid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
Edit: Read, funny about Vitamins. Shame if so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
Edit: Read, funny about Vitamins. Shame if so.
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That translates roughly to a good kilo every square meter. It's one hell of a number. I guess leds won't be able to produce more per square area but will consume less watts per gram produced.
Cheers
Ibechillin
Masochist Educator
Josh_Neulinger on instagram is the grower responsible for the result I shared above.
Current research is supporting possibility to increase past 84 grams/3 oz per sq ft under LED. Outdoor during summer plants tolerate tons of IR and ~2000PPFD in full sun at noon, with 60 DLI common over a day with only ~400ppm atmoshperic CO2 available.
Bruce Bugbee from Apogee's presentation on grow lighting explains cannabis yields continue to increase up to 60 DLI (1400ppfd over 12 hours). Josh_Neulinger mentioned in an instagram comment Bruce Bugbee only tested and recorded up to 60 DLI with 700ppm CO2 concentration and not to think of it as a maximum threshold. Im also unaware of feed solution/strength used, feed/watering frequency or how the environment was maintained other than CO2 during the tests which are crucial factors for yield as well.
Josh_Neulinger's latest instagram post from 11/15 is an LED room pushing 1700PPFD and 1500ppm CO2 with supporting environment (84F and 70% RH) also monitoring pore water EC and utilizing crop steering techniques. He has also mentioned maintaining the same temperature and humidity during lights off which keeps the leaves in praying up position. Pretty sure I read he runs 9 plants per light (25 sq ft) 6.5" rockwool blocks on slabs, does not top or train plants.
Current research is supporting possibility to increase past 84 grams/3 oz per sq ft under LED. Outdoor during summer plants tolerate tons of IR and ~2000PPFD in full sun at noon, with 60 DLI common over a day with only ~400ppm atmoshperic CO2 available.
Bruce Bugbee from Apogee's presentation on grow lighting explains cannabis yields continue to increase up to 60 DLI (1400ppfd over 12 hours). Josh_Neulinger mentioned in an instagram comment Bruce Bugbee only tested and recorded up to 60 DLI with 700ppm CO2 concentration and not to think of it as a maximum threshold. Im also unaware of feed solution/strength used, feed/watering frequency or how the environment was maintained other than CO2 during the tests which are crucial factors for yield as well.
Josh_Neulinger's latest instagram post from 11/15 is an LED room pushing 1700PPFD and 1500ppm CO2 with supporting environment (84F and 70% RH) also monitoring pore water EC and utilizing crop steering techniques. He has also mentioned maintaining the same temperature and humidity during lights off which keeps the leaves in praying up position. Pretty sure I read he runs 9 plants per light (25 sq ft) 6.5" rockwool blocks on slabs, does not top or train plants.
Loving this thread, have a question how much crossover light effect do you guys think is effecting both sides would the lights perform the same if there was a wall up the middle ?
Have a small 9ft x 9ft room that had 9x 600 HPS and just changed it out to 4x CMH 630de so far just in early veg with the lights on the ceiling and only 2 running and the plants are growing great very short and lots of branching, this strain used to stretch bad with HPS. These CMH are very bright if I can get near the same yield from these 4 as the 9 sodium's I will be very happy so much less heat .
Cheers
Have a small 9ft x 9ft room that had 9x 600 HPS and just changed it out to 4x CMH 630de so far just in early veg with the lights on the ceiling and only 2 running and the plants are growing great very short and lots of branching, this strain used to stretch bad with HPS. These CMH are very bright if I can get near the same yield from these 4 as the 9 sodium's I will be very happy so much less heat .
Cheers
mikeross
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The overlap on the lighting makes a difference for sure, how much, not sure, to many variables. If there was a wall in every aisle the overall yield would go down for sure IMO.
Biologist
Active member
Yep, Veggia that is the one. Sorry, I left some of the Amazon link off. I corrected the link in my original post.
Biologist
Active member
Roadblock, I think the crosslighting is super important. When I turn on just one row of my lights it is extremely dim looking compared to with all the lights going. That would be what I assume it would look like with a wall in there. If you read the Gavita and other manufacturers literature that they put out they say walls kill your yield. Even with reflective material, a lot is lost.
I found this useful-
https://gavita.com/retail/app/uploads/How-to-design-an-optimal-growroom.pdf
"The reason for that difference in losses is caused by your walls. In a small room the ratio wall surface
to floor surface is much higher than in a large room. A 1x1m room has a 4:1 wall to floor surface ratio
(4 meters of wall to 1 square meter of surface). A 5x5m room has a 1:1.25 wall to floor ratio (20 meters
of wall against a 25 square meters of surface) which makes all the difference. More walls mean more
losses. Larger rooms are more efficient than small rooms."
I found this useful-
https://gavita.com/retail/app/uploads/How-to-design-an-optimal-growroom.pdf
"The reason for that difference in losses is caused by your walls. In a small room the ratio wall surface
to floor surface is much higher than in a large room. A 1x1m room has a 4:1 wall to floor surface ratio
(4 meters of wall to 1 square meter of surface). A 5x5m room has a 1:1.25 wall to floor ratio (20 meters
of wall against a 25 square meters of surface) which makes all the difference. More walls mean more
losses. Larger rooms are more efficient than small rooms."
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