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Ronley

- ezra - said:
Deft, they probably wont flower in 12/12, but mine all showed sex in veg. If I were you, I would take pre-emptive measures to kick it into flower. Go 36hr dark, 11/13, or 10/14. This strain just does not seem to want to flower in 12/12

Hey Ronley, I read your thread, so are they finally flowering now or what? Do you know what the daylight hrs are where you are at the moment?


Yes she is finally flowering. FINALLLLLLLYYYY!!!!!

The days are very long - 14 hours at least. I have about 6 hours of direct sunlight on my balcony.
 

Deft

Get two birds stoned at once
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I switched and noticed a new growth at the nodes, sort of a flat buble on the stem that wasnt there before. Its like a little ring around the shoot.
 
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Ronley

- ezra - said:
Ronley - did you mean the nights are 14hrs?



No,
days have more light now. I am in the Northern Hemisphere and as its Summer now, we have longer day light.
 
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- ezra -

.strangelove.
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Good luck with your grow Ronley, I will check on your thread every so often to see how your going.

I think that the 007s are starting to respond to the 10/14 cycle. I have noticed a few pistils forming in the tops. I am letting the shoots grow up through the screen now.
 

- ezra -

.strangelove.
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NUTRIENTS...

NUTRIENTS...

Ok well as i promised, I will talk a little about the nutrients I am using.

This grow is mostly organic, but I am supplementing with some mineral nutrients as well. As the buds mature, I will go totally organic several weeks before harvest for better taste and smell.

MINERAL NUTRIENTS:

-Advanced Nutrients - Sensi Grow
-Canna - Flores
-Canna - PK 13/14
-Advanced Nutrients - Big Bud
-Growth Technology - GT Silica

ORGANIC NUTRIENTS:

-Cultivator Plus (fish emulsion, bull kelp extract, humic acid)
-Bio Juice - Bloom(worm castings, seaweed emulsion, amino acids, fulvic acid)
-Growth Technology - GT Fulvic
-Liquid WCs aka worm wee (home made)
-Black Strap Molasses
-Malt Extract
-Advanced Nutrients - Piranha (fungi)
-Bio Bugs (bacteria, enzymes, fungi)

Different proportions of these are blended and hand watered every 2-3 days. Obviously some of these I would only use during certain stages such as the bloom stimulants for example.

The proportions are mostly organics, the synthetic nutrients are allways used at less than 50% strength. As the bloom stage sets in, the proportion of synthetic nutrients will be reduced further, eventually going all organic several weeks before harvest.
 
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Guest

hi ezra if you're still having probs getting them into flower then buy some phosphoload. it will stop their veg growth and produce an immediate flowering response. it's hard to come by. search on web. good luck.
 

- ezra -

.strangelove.
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herbie3000 - thanks for trying to help

I did a bit of research - this product Phosphoload is the same as Superbud and I think its some nasty chemy stuff. Supposed to increase yield, etc, etc, but it ruins the bud making it less potent taste like crap, and so on. It also contains some chemical called paclobutrazol which is supposedly mildly carcinogenic. Superbud was actually taken off the market when it was revealed that paclobutrazol is carcinogenic.

You can recognise buds treated with this stuff. They are very dense and sort of spongy, very few trichomes, weak smell, harsh taste.

No, I wouldnt use this stuff on my plants, and wouldnt recommend to anyone to use it unless they wanted to produce bulk low quality commertial bud.
 

Deft

Get two birds stoned at once
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I'm eager to know about the progress on the 007 as I have 4 going myself.
 
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Ronley

Just be Pacient, Let the plantdo its own thing and eventually she will flower, and produce excellent, wonderful, resinous, potent, THC Buds...
(Dont we wish that on all our plants)
 
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Guest

- ezra - said:
herbie3000 - thanks for trying to help

I did a bit of research - this product Phosphoload is the same as Superbud and I think its some nasty chemy stuff. Supposed to increase yield, etc, etc, but it ruins the bud making it less potent taste like crap, and so on. It also contains some chemical called paclobutrazol which is supposedly mildly carcinogenic. Superbud was actually taken off the market when it was revealed that paclobutrazol is carcinogenic.

You can recognise buds treated with this stuff. They are very dense and sort of spongy, very few trichomes, weak smell, harsh taste.

No, I wouldnt use this stuff on my plants, and wouldnt recommend to anyone to use it unless they wanted to produce bulk low quality commertial bud.

sorry mate, wasn't trying to poison you. if there is a place in growing for paclo then it's in kicking sativas into flower and regulating their height. i only suggested as an emergency measure! i see from your nute schedule that you want to keep it as organic as poss. definitely a good thing.

let's hope those pistils start showing soon!
:wave:
 
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kokua

an organic garden is about the soil and the life cycle that it contains, it is about microorganisms and creating a thriving environment for them, it is about nature and conservation, it is not about adding molasses towards the end to get a better tasting/smelling crop. That is not how things work. You will have better luck if you pick one method and stick with it...changing up mid-season is asking for trouble, and gives the plants NO time to utilize the organics properly. 30 days is not enough time to build up the microfauna you are looking to establish with organic techniques. Especially when you flush the last week or so. Without the 'goodies' in the soil built up, the organic sources of nutrition cant be efficiently used either....wasting money,time, and potential yeild.

Both of those feeding schedules look great, independent of each other. Pick one.
 
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kokua

phosphorus and potassium definately have a relationship with the flowering response... You ask how...thats your homework buddy :) If your teachers did your homework for you....you wouldn't learn as much. :) How about you look it up and post what you found here...the student, becomes the teacher :) Then we can discuss what you found together :)
 
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Guest

hi ezra. this is someone else's work. i hope it's some use, although it doesn't go into detail about the effects on flowering response:

Phosphorus

Phosphorus is used by plants in different forms and availability of phosphorus to plants is dependent on the solubility of this mineral in soil. However the availability of phosphorus is often tied up in compounds of limited solubility. The minerals that phosphorus links to depend on soil pH. In neutral to alkaline soils phosphorus will link up to calcium forming a compound known as calcium phosphate rendering the phosphorus unavailable to plants and insoluble. In soils with an acid pH phosphorus will often link to iron or aluminum to form phosphate compounds that also bind phosphorus as insoluble and mostly unavailable to plants. These relatively insoluble forms of phosphorus are called "solid-phase" phosphates and can function as a phosphorus savings account in the soil. The amount of solid phase phosphorus (phosphate) in a particular soil may actually account for 99% of the total phosphorus that appears on an analysis of soil. This means that a little as one percent of the total phosphorus that shows up on a typical soil test may actually be readily available to plants. Solubility of phosphorus is controlled by several factors including the amount of solid-phase phosphorus present in the soil. The greater the total amounts present in the soil, the better the chance of having more phosphorus in solution. Another important factor is the extent of contact between solid-phase phosphate and the soil solution. Greater exposure of solid-phase phosphate to the soil solution and to plant roots increases the ability to maintain replacement supplies. During periods of rapid plant growth, phosphorus in the soil solution may be replaced ten times or more per day from solid-phase phosphorus. Soil temperature and pH also affect the solubility of phosphorus. Maximum availability of soil phosphorus occurs at pH levels of 6.5 to 7.5.

Phosphorus is present in all living cells. It is used by plants to form nucleic acids like DNA and RNA and is also utilized in the storage and transfer of energy through energy-rich linkages (ATP and ADP).

Some natural sources for phosphorus in the natural garden are soft-rock phosphate, hard-rock phosphate, and good old bone meal.

Phosphorus stimulates early growth and root formation in plants. It speeds up maturity and promotes flowering and seed production as well. Symptoms of phosphorus deficiency in plants include:

* Slow growth; stunted plants
* Purplish coloration on the foliage of some plants
* Dark green coloration with the tips of leaves dying
* Delayed maturity
* Poor fruit, flower, and seed production

Potassium

Potassium is used by plants in the form of positively charged ions or "cations"(pronounced CAT-eye-uns). It is not synthesized into compounds like phosphorus is, but tends to remain ionic within plant cells and tissues. Potassium is essential for the transport of sugars and for starch formation as plants convert sunshine to food (photosynthesis). The pores in the leaves of plants (stomata) require the presence of potassium to open and close their guard cells in order to breathe. Potassium produces higher function of vascular plant tissue for better transport of nutrients. It increases plant resistance to disease. It also increases the size and quality of fruits and vegetables.
 
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kokua

the research is half the fun...lol :) no worries ezra :) I undestand you are trying to do with the nutes...like FoxFarm or pbp...organic based :)
 
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- ezra -

.strangelove.
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hey guys, sorry for the lack of pics, I admit to being a little slack in this respect. Its lights off now so tomorrow I will definately take some snaps. It has changed a lot in there since the last pic update. the stretch has taken its toll and the canopy has been transformed from its super neat state into a bit more of a jungle-like configuration. :yoinks:

Two of the 007s are now flowering well, while the other 2 are (hopefully) starting to bud. There is a very nice sweet skunky aroma in the cab now even with the ventilation on, so I think these are gona be some stinky buds. I have this awesome little C.D. Ozone Unit but I dropped it on the ground the other day and one component inside snapped. :badday: so I am gonna need to come up with some odour control now before it gets bad.
 

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