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Deft

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I love cannabis and I love firearms, but the two dont mix in our world. If you get caught and they find you have guns or pics of guns with pot it just fules the anti liberty fires.
 
i was under the impression, that when they did their heli infrared, blah bla bullshit, it had to do with them being able to see the ground dug up and disturbed, therefore if you dig your plants in, like many do. The heat sig of 10-30 "holes" would be noticable.
 
if its a diff color of green than surrounding foliage, would it then be a "different spectrum" of light than other plants?

ive read of camp using infrared to look for reservoirs and large irrigation line runs on hot days. Makes enough sense to be bullshiot but who knows.
 
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Brain

I don't think they could see a irrigation line, I don't think temperature matters either. They can focus on a certain wave length to spot the MJ, also water will come out black so they could see an open res if exposed to the sun. Infrared will also show which plants are well watered and healthy and which are not getting enough water so some healthy MJ plants will stick out amongst dead or drying out plants. This little bit I know for a remote sensing class I took in college. I have no knowlegde of what CAMP actually uses or their methods.
 
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Jack Crevalle

sir, do you have helicoptors that run heat detectors in that area? i know alot of places they run the heat gun and look for patches of area lettiung off alot of heat and what not, thats how they busted a couple houses.


This thread turned useless after this comment and others following LOL!
While you're at it, make sure there are no light leaks so they don't hermi, LOL!!! :bashhead: :bashhead: :bashhead: :bashhead:
 
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hazy

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keep 'em growing sirgrowsalot

looks beautiful

fuck these punks bitchin about a gun - oh my-

anybody with a brain knows its nothing to do with 'guarding' your plot.

if you have to 'guard', you're busted.

way to go for having the land to grow on
 

Fat Albert

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SiR-GrOwS-aLoT said:
what u talkin bout willis? they still got another month to veg... i get about half to 3 quarters of a pound per plant with OB outdoors

orange bud is a big yielder
(post from three days ago)

I'm trying to figure out how you arrived at that conclusion. The daylength has been decreasing ever since the solstice (June 21), and progressively shorter days will always trigger flowering....

Looks pretty, though!

Fat A :wave:
 

lemonade

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Maybe he doesn't veg them inside because he doesn't have the room?

Alot of strains i've run wont start flowering until mid august to the beginning of sept. Thats atleat another month of veg.

This is kinda lame. People are trying to pick apart his techniques/asking questions in a slightly negative tone because he showed a pic of a firearm.

I probably wouldn't take pics of my plants with a gun in the vicinity, but there are places in my province that i wouldn't step foot in without a reliable firearm at my side.

Anyhow, enough bullshit. Nice setup bro, keep it up and don't get discouraged!
 
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NiteTiger

Tiger, Tiger, burning bright...
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I actually made a post about IR sensors and outdoor grows a little while back, let me post it here for you guys:

NiteTiger said:
Guys, the problem here is that you're mixing the use and issues.

Cannabis, as well as every other plant on earth, has unique qualities in reflecting light and absorbing heat. As pointed out before though, that takes highly specialized equipment, and is not likely to be found searching for pot.

Forward Looking InfraRed (FLIR) detects differences in temperature and gives it as a visual representation. Those devices are used by police and have been for some time. Yes, they can be used to scan a home for the heat signature of a grow operation, which we all know.

However, they CAN ALSO be used for detecting outdoor plots. This is done not by the unique IR signature of plants, however. FLIR is used for detecting outdoor plots by heat. No, not the absorption of heat by the plant. It's much more basic than that.

It's the soil. Prepped and otherwise disturbed soil absorbs and releases heat at a different rate than natural compacted soil. Add in nutes, perlite, etc, and it doesn't even resemble native soil. It's the regularly spaced intervals of hot spots that show on the FLIR screen and indicate a potential grow spot.

It's the same way they can search an area for freshly dug graves.

Hope that clears some things up.

And SGAL, ignore the negative, come on back and post up some more pics!
 

bounty29

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NiteTiger - great info, thanks. Would there be any type of material you could put on top of the plot, around the base of the plant where you disturbed soil, to disguise it to that method?

SGAL - Definitely post some more pictures, that looks like it's gonna be an amazing harvest.
 

NiteTiger

Tiger, Tiger, burning bright...
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Some sort of insulation may work, but the problem is how much. A black circle on a white sheet of paper is just as easy to see as a red circle, y'know what I mean?

The best way would be to space things out in an irregular pattern. Lots of things make holes in the dirt, but only humans sowing seeds do it in a straight line :D
 

pumpkin2006

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Ya, don't worry about all the haters, they don't got anything better to do then hate.

I don't give a shit if you have a gun. Uhh you said it Bears... hmm, maybe I don't want to get eaten today.... so I think i'll bring my gun.... Also, say, lets just say, that someone comes up on your guys spot and wants to hurt you guys and jack your shit, I bet with a 12 gauge pointed at him, he'll probably just slow back-away and never come back.

So for all the retards ^^^ are great reasons to have a gun in a remote location. Get over whatever hippy liberal crap thats been drilled into your head. BTW I am a neo-hippy and very liberal, but logic dictates that ya'll are retards.
 
NiteTiger said:
I actually made a post about IR sensors and outdoor grows a little while back, let me post it here for you guys:



Hope that clears some things up.

And SGAL, ignore the negative, come on back and post up some more pics!

wow, that actually clears things up a bit and makes a helluva lotta sense. ive always told ppl off that said weed plants could be solely detected by FLIR. in a sense, i was wrong as well. great info, thanks.
 

dfw_lr

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What about reflection?

What about reflection?

bounty29 said:
NiteTiger - great info, thanks. Would there be any type of material you could put on top of the plot, around the base of the plant where you disturbed soil, to disguise it to that method?

SGAL - Definitely post some more pictures, that looks like it's gonna be an amazing harvest.

Check out radiant barrier via Reflectix Inc, Innovative Insulation Inc., or RadiantGuard.

I'm not an expert by any means, but from what I understand, radiant barrier might be a way to go. Most people use it in their homes to keep heat from escaping because it reflects 97% of heat and it's thinner and cheaper than insulation.

However, I imagine that a radiant barrier reflects heat (97%) similar to how a mirror reflects light (100%) with the obvious exception of 3% getting through, but 3% is not very much and could be reduced even further with the addition of more radiant barriers. For example, the second radiant barrier would knock out 97% of that 3% and so on.

I don't think it would create a black spot where ther is no heat, but instead reflect to camoflauge itself with the surrounding heat. Let me give an example of what I mean, because I know this sounds confusing.

I've seen magicians do a trick where they have a double sided mirror in a jar and put another object in the jar. When the jar is turned, the mirror on the other side creates the illusion of the object in the jar disappearing. Theoretically, a radiant barrier could be used the same way with heat. If there is someone who knows more about physics than I do, can you look into this, because if there is a way for this to work, it could make things a lot easier for us.
 

NiteTiger

Tiger, Tiger, burning bright...
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Problem is, Reflectix is silver, meaning you may as well put a signal flare on your plots :biglaugh:
 

SiR-GrOwS-aLoT

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well went to spread out,top and stake another patch,,,needed to do a bit of clearing too as these were being a bit shaded, but there still growing well!



 
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dfw_lr

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Heat signature

Heat signature

NiteTiger said:
Problem is, Reflectix is silver, meaning you may as well put a signal flare on your plots :biglaugh:


Obviously, I wasn't talking about making a giant silver grow box. There is a radiant barrier fabric that's white on one side and silver on the other.

http://www.radiantbarrier.com/temptrol.htm

I was thinking it would be great for a grow tent. Lots of people have white tents, awnings, canopys and stuff in their yards. If the radiant barrier would block the lamps from showing up, problem solved.

I think it might work. :joint:
 

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