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Corpsey

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i feel ya man, im the same way. keeping myself away from people does the best for me and others.

best of luck! haha
 

billy_big_bud!

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thanks bro. self segregation seems to be the fairest solution to all parties. i realize i am a human and have a concious choice but i dont seem to know how to make the right decision. just the right decision for me.
 

armedoldhippy

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what would you do if you knew you were a bad person and were only going to get worse?

well, if you realize that you are bad, then it is up to you to change that. no one is beyond hope. some folks die before they can change, but it is always possible. LSD, 'shrooms, or mescaline can open your eyes/change your perspective... realizing that you are fucked up is the first step towards not being fucked up. if I KNEW beyond a shadow of a doubt that I would get worse & stay on that path? I'd eat a pistol...
 

Marcellas

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Might do myself in if no way to stop it.. I feel from reading the replies that this is much deaper though
 
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wegobigupnorth

I am sorry but you really need to change your outlook on life brother. What the fuck do you mean you KNOW you are only going to get worse? If you keep telling yourself that you KNOW your just going to get worse, you are going to use that to justify getting, well, a hell of a lot fucking worse.

Example: "Oh man I know I shouldn't shoot heroin but ohh well I'm a shitty person and since I KNOW I'm just going to get worse, I mine as well speed up the process and become a junkie"

I hate hearing/reading shit like your post because I had a very similar way of thinking and it almost fucking killed me. I was a straight up fucking prescription drug and heroin junkie for many years. I justified it to myself millions of different ways. The stereotypical "I am not hurting anyone but myself" , "I had a rough upbringing I deserve to use dope"and once I was fully addicted I just kept telling myself I had gone to far and there was no turning back now.

I went to rehabs, fucking NA meetings, all the bullshit and I had a million ex addicts giving me advice that I now find myself giving out to addicts and I didn't listen at all so I get it that these are just words to you and they probably aren't going to sink in but once you change that stubborn, BULLSHIT, depressing way of thinking you have, life will be much better.

If you keep telling yourself life sucks and that your just a bad seed born that way thats never gonna be a good person, GUESS WHAT? YOU WON'T EVER CHANGE.

WHY would you WANT to think negatively like that? Look at the positives because they ARE there. Shit, last night I ran out of weed for the first time in like a decade and at first was freaking out and pissed but then I thought of the positives, like how my tolerance could use the break :) and I felt much more calm...There is a positive to pretty much everything bro.

Iff you are having issues with addiction, I am very experienced in that field and am actually an addiction counselor at a local detox and 28 day intake program for drug and alcohol addiction. If you need any help just shoot me a message, I need more posts to be able to PM

Sorry for being harsh in my post but honestly it took someone being VERY harsh to me before I started listening. The soft approach does not work when people are so stubborn.
 

billy_big_bud!

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thanks. you sound like you understand. i appreciate your approach and you are right thats what it takes to get some peoples attention. thanks for your offer. i am 11 days off the drink and not turning back so the addiction angle is handled. i really just dont see it as a choice. i dont know how to over ride my mind and get to a point i could be objective...
 

billy_big_bud!

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lmfao. i love this guy^ good suggestions. i dont know about a week in the woods but i am getting shrooms tomorrow so at least i found somewhere to start.
 

billy_big_bud!

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note pad would help thanks. im gonna try and source some dee em tea as well i hear it can be profound.....
 

m314

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Google "marsofold tek" and you'll find everything you need to know to extract it yourself. DMT The Spirit Molecule is worth watching if you haven't seen it yet. It's on Netflix.

When I first tried psychedelics, I was just looking to have fun. They can be fun, obviously. The part where I saw that I needed to make changes in my life wasn't what I expected. It just happened. My whole point of view on the world and on myself changed.

People can change, in general. It happens all the time.
 

billy_big_bud!

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thanks m i googled it. have you tried making it before? im kinda iffy when it comes to working with chemicals and such. also how does one aquire the initial supply of bark?
 

m314

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I did a couple extractions in 2006 and 2009. I bought the root bark from some web site that isn't around anymore. I'm sure other places are selling it now. Doing the extraction is like cooking from a recipe. You just have to be careful and follow the instructions in detail.

Shrooms and acid were more important to me personally, in terms of how they changed my life. Shrooms are easy to grow too. Search for "PF Tek done right". It takes a few weeks, so it's easier to just buy them if you have a source. I had my first few trips from shrooms I found in cow pastures in Florida.
 

Jericho Mile

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If you are feeling bad about yourself...and have recently given up a heavy alcohol habit.....do you really believe taking psychedelics is your best route? That could easily go in the wrong direction.

Maybe...face the world sober. Sober for at least a year...because...it takes at least a year...for the booze to undue itself. You are in your infancy. Looking for psychedelics to peel back your flesh...may not be the best thing to be doing...while you are in such a state...at such a time

common sense should tell you this.
 

billy_big_bud!

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i understand what you mean but i cant live with myself for the next year because a year from now i will be worse if history tells me anything. i have gone through long periods of soberness over the last 20 years of my life and was still hitlers reincarnation. i need insight or to exit. it could go either way...
 

Jericho Mile

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i understand what you mean but i cant live with myself for the next year because a year from now i will be worse if history tells me anything. i have gone through long periods of soberness over the last 20 years of my life and was still hitlers reincarnation. i need insight or to exit. it could go either way...

well...hopefully you are not such a shitty person...or perhaps..you really are. So what then? You take your insightful trip and find out that...yup...you really are a sack of shit...what then?

Magic and prayer only work if you believe....but there are two sides to that. If you believe yourself to be a terrible person...the drugs are not going to reveal anything but negativity. You are already set up to fail. No magical revelations come from chemical additives alone.

heavy drinkers...they drink to escape. it's always about escape...from the very beginning to the very end.

eventually the road runs out. eventually the music must be faced. it's that simple. no drug trip is going to solve escapism...or self hate...or enlighten you to their roots. you already know all that you need to know....you already know their source. accept and face it...or..do what you've always done and accept that. fork in the road...both forks go somewhere.

.....but then...fuck it...what do I know? nothing

happy trails....my best to you
 
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igrowone

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best i can tell, not many saints here, most of us have gone through bad shit
and alcohol? if there's any bad in you you can count on alcohol in excess to let it out
advice given sounds reasonable, but what will work for you? it's out there somewhere
just don't give up
 

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